Drug info - how? CWE

[comatosefreek]

What is the best method for cold water extraction to get just the codeine? and how do i know i'm doing it right? does it get all of the codeine out just like it would if i was to just crush them up and eat them?

[RadioHead]

The best method (In Swims Opinion) i can discribe easily is the one that most people use, basically:

1 Add pills to 100ml (or less) of warm water

2 cool until it is nearly frozen

3 Use a filter (coffee filter, lab filter, even a good cloth) to filter solids out of water.

4 Drink water

5 Have Fun

SWIM suggests you read a more detailed guide as to what to do.

There are variations like filtering twice or filtering just the big peices of paracetemol out, but that is the best method to start on, make your own variations if you want.

One way to do know if you're doing it right is that after you filtered it there is no little white dots floating around, and the reason to use a little bit of water is that the more water you use the more paracetamol will dissolve into it that you can't get out, it still probably wont harm you, but the less paracetamol the better. Also the codeine water should have a very bitter taste, the more bitter the more codeine in it most liekly.

You will probably get between 75-95% of the codeine you would normally get, but filtering will be ALOT better for your liver and is definatly worth it.

If SWIM is at all wrong please correct him.


Also, try not to self incrminate, instead of talking in first person about what you have done, talk in 3rd person about what SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me) has done, Swim forgets this occasionally still, but he is still new).

[RoboCodeine7610]

Well, you could use that method and remove most of the APAP but if you wanna remove as much APAP as possible then I suggest you use Swim's method:

ROBO'S REFINED CWE
You'll need:
-water(preferably bottled)
-a baker or other container capable of measuring ml.
-a funnel
-tissue paper or as SWIJulian suggested woman's stocking
-coffee filters or preferably lab filters

Okay so here's the procedure:

1-Heat the water to about 30C, just above room temp.Pur the desired amount of water in the baker or glass (swim uses 100ml for 20 tablets, also works well for up to 30 tablets)

2-Crush the tablets until they're a fine powder (the finer the better) and add them to the water, stir until you can see no more chunks.

3-While you wait for the tablets to dissolve wet the paper tissue or the cloth you were talking about and place it on the funnel.Wet it first so it doesn't absorb your codeine.

4-All the tablets should be dissolved by now, check for chunks in the bottom of the glass.
Place the funnel on top of a tall glass and filter the mix through it.
After it's done pur a tiny little bit of water in the baker with the residue ad pur it on the filter, this will ensure that you get all the codeine out.

5-Discard the tissue paper and wash the funnel and the baker.Now pur the filtered solution into the baker and look at how many ml of water are left.
This will give you an aproximate idea on your yield.

6-Put the baker in the freezer, and wait until you see a little bit of ice on top.

7-While you wait for the solution to cool, place the lab or coffee filters in the funnel making sure they're wet before filtering.

8-Filter the solution through the coffee/lab filter.If it takes too long you might wanna filter inside the fridge so that it stays cool.

9-The filtered solution should be as clear as water,Drink and enjoy.You might wanna wait until you have an empty stomach as this greatly potentiates the codeine.
Swim thinks the best chaser is Diet 7up but that's just him.

[honourableone]

One thing that always peaked my curiosity is why people filter the mixture before cooling, as well as after. Is there any benefit to doing this? SWIM never bothers.

[RoboCodeine7610]

One thing that always peaked my curiosity is why people filter the mixture before cooling, as well as after. Is there any benefit to doing this? SWIM never bothers.

Because too much APAP clogs the filter and as you know the smaller the holes the easier it gets clogged.So Swim filters with a napkin first to filter out the big chunks of APAP making the second filtration (with a lab filter) a lot quicker.

[honourableone]

Aah, ok. SWIM sometimes does this with a stocking, before filtering properly, but he always does both filtrations after the cooling stage.

[RoboCodeine7610]

Aah, ok. SWIM sometimes does this with a stocking, before filtering properly, but he always does both filtrations after the cooling stage.

But then you'd have to keep it in the fridge, so it doesn't warm up.Plus, you don't need it to be cold for the first filtration since you're just removing big chunks.

[honourableone]

Filtration is so quick when through a stocking that SWIM feels that keeping it cold won't make much difference, and since it is just a preliminary thing it doesn't really matter as long as the main filtration is done in the fridge. SWIM finds that there are many more big chunks after cooling (he would be surprised if there wasn't), meaning overall less big chunks to clog up their final filtration.

It seems personal variations on CWE are quite common

[0utrider]

robos refined hmm ?? i put it in the faq

[TheBadMan]

1. Put codeine salt containing tablets in a container and add just enough cool water to completely immerse the tablets. Preferred tablets contain: 8 mg codeine phosphate, 15 mg caffeine and 325 acetylsalicylic acid.

2. Swirl mixture occasionally. Let the pills break up into powder, which takes about 5 - 10 minutes.

3. Soak a coffee filter (or two, depending on how many pills you have) with water. Put the filter in a funnel and place the funnel over a container, such as a cup to be drank from. In the bottom of this container, add about 25 mL or so of lemon juice.

4. Pour the mixture of broken tablets and water into the coffee filter. Let the filtrate drop into the lemon juice. This can take 5 minutes or so.

5. One all of the liquid has passed through the filter, add just enough* cool water to the filtrand (the solid remaining in the filter) to cover the material in the filter and let the filtrate drip into the lemon juice mixture. [this step washes out any codeine remaining behind in the filtrand]. Repeat this step once. * - "just enough" should be less than half and likely less than a quarter of the amount of water that was originally used to immerse the pills in

6. Discard filtrand (the coffee filters and the solid material remaining behind).

7. The lemon juice mix contains the codeine salt.

Lemon juice is used to eliminate the bitter flavour. A chaser is still recommended, but this stuff tastes more like lemon juice than anything.