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Old 05-03-2009, 04:20
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manage tolerance through weekend dopesicks

So my dog x has been thinking lately (this is x's 20th day off of opies)--x started going to the gym and found it really rushes the once lost endorphins back to the head for like 4 hours after the workout. And at these stages for x, he starts to get rationalizing thoughts as to why he should go back to using BUT... this time he would keep his tolerance in check and have enough will power to wait 24 hours between doses, only use said amount, and if he starts to feel like they are not working anymore for him, he needs the will power to skip at least a day to lower his tolerance, and basically repeat this cycle throughout the using time.

Another route would be to have as much fun as you want but know that probably every weekend you must obstain Friday, Sat, & Sunday (basically get dopesick for 2 or 3 days ) and then when he goes back to work he takes his regular or even smaller dose as before and it once again equally gets him high.

X's biggest problem last time he was using was letting his tolerance get tottally out of hand. Maybe if x can figure out a way to succeed in keeping these dosages and tolerances in check, one would be able to control such a drug time in x's life, and in doing that one would be better able to determine lentgh, strengh & severity of the WDs to come.

Just some food for thought I am writing for X.....

Because X did enjoy it but x told me towards the end he was starting to have trouble keeping up with obtaining the goods to be consumed due to the huge tolerance he had aquired along his jouney with the devil.

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x is not neseccarily going to try this but he figured it was an interesting thought
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Old 05-03-2009, 19:31
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Re: manage tolerance through weekend dopesicks

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So my dog x has been thinking lately (this is x's 20th day off of opies)--x started going to the gym and found it really rushes the once lost endorphins back to the head for like 4 hours after the workout. And at these stages for x, he starts to get rationalizing thoughts as to why he should go back to using BUT... this time he would keep his tolerance in check and have enough will power to wait 24 hours between doses, only use said amount, and if he starts to feel like they are not working anymore for him, he needs the will power to skip at least a day to lower his tolerance, and basically repeat this cycle throughout the using time.

Another route would be to have as much fun as you want but know that probably every weekend you must obstain Friday, Sat, & Sunday (basically get dopesick for 2 or 3 days ) and then when he goes back to work he takes his regular or even smaller dose as before and it once again equally gets him high.

X's biggest problem last time he was using was letting his tolerance get tottally out of hand. Maybe if x can figure out a way to succeed in keeping these dosages and tolerances in check, one would be able to control such a drug time in x's life, and in doing that one would be better able to determine lentgh, strengh & severity of the WDs to come.

Just some food for thought I am writing for X.....

Because X did enjoy it but x told me towards the end he was starting to have trouble keeping up with obtaining the goods to be consumed due to the huge tolerance he had aquired along his jouney with the devil.

Feel free to add comments regarding doggy x

x is not neseccarily going to try this but he figured it was an interesting thought
There is good evidence that NMDA antagonists (e.g. dextromethorphan which is obtainable OTC) do attenuate and prevent the development of opiate tolerance. Preprations of morphine and dextromethorphan (Deximorph) have been used for this purpose clinically. Food for thought, though SWIM would never go using tons of opiates every day and put his faith in the NMDA antagonists to save him from addiction without good evidence that it would work for him personally. Maybe I will post on this in the main forum in a bit because so many people are ignorant of this fact and it could help people from developing insane tolerances even if it doesn't work completely.
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Re: manage tolerance through weekend dopesicks

I hate to be simplistic, but it will not work. Do not try it. It's stupid. You're doing so well being 20 days off. My cat has been down that path after nearly two years off, and again after nearly 18 months. It doesn't work. How can I make this clearer: Don't try it.

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There is good evidence that NMDA antagonists (e.g. dextromethorphan which is obtainable OTC) do attenuate and prevent the development of opiate tolerance.
That is indeed interesting I don't think many people are aware of that... definitely good to know.





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I hate to be simplistic, but it will not work. Do not try it. It's stupid. You're doing so well being 20 days off. My cat has been down that path after nearly two years off, and again after nearly 18 months. It doesn't work. How can I make this clearer: Don't try it.

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x tells me you are right Dickon. The negatives definitely outweigh the positives, when X actually thinks back to say.. day 2 & 3 and actually the first 2 weeks. X finally just at the 3 week mark has noticed that occasional cold sweats and chills are nonexistent at this point. X has already come this far, has gained 10 lbs back because he actually has a normal appetite now, and feels & looks less strung out.

Anyway, thanks for caring... X is going to stick with it at this point..His current goal is to hit the gym 6 days a wk .. but it did feel good to get this out of X's system and talk about it with people that understand
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Glad to hear your doing well and decided to stick with it. Its a good thing your doing hun.
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Re: manage tolerance through weekend dopesicks

Ah the lovely debate of whether Mr. X can keep his using to a tolerable level...

This is just what this little teddybear has to say...

Mr. X will be able to stay on a regiment for an unknown amount of time, then something bad will happen, or Mr. X will obtain a large amount of money and a large amount of free time, Mr. X will think "I can handle one binge, I've been doing so good, Once this is over, I'll go through it and then I'll go back to my tried-and-true regiment...this all sounds good at the time, and your little addictive voice will make you believe it. Everything will be all good until the binge is over, then Mr. X will be sick, and the shitty feeling that is withdraw will remind you why you shouldn't have gone on that loverly binge. Then most likely Mr. X will be scoring just to keep the w.d.'s away, and back to square one. This teddybear went on a picnic and then ended up in the previous situation as stated above. NOT COOL. It can be done, but 99% of the time Mr. X will end up back where he/she started. Good luck my friend.

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