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Old 02-03-2009, 20:37
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AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

SWIM just purchased some of these for his pet hamster and first prepared 12 gram slurry which only induced my hamster's face to flush. SWIM then tried 15 grams prepared as a tea (Boiled water, took off heat, placed in 15 grams of finely ground powder and allowed to sit for 1 hour) and again felt nothing other than flushed face. So far the AZ poppies from ThE-BAY are not worth a damn. The hamster may have to try a different source next time.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:42
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

There are two kinds of AZ poppies that one can usually find online. A scientist wanting to work with real Opium poppies would be looking specifically for Papaver Somniferum. The other common AZ poppy is just a variation of the Californian Poppy gone wild in Arizona.

If a scientist had no luck with their theoretical experiments using AZ poppies then one would think that the scientist would be inclined to find an alternate method of discovery.

There are a fair number of strains of Papa Somni to choose from, Most scientists would not bother choosing even the Papa Somni variety of AZ's. Take the time to look around the Threads in this section and SWIYou will find that there are things that a fair number of biochemists are working with that surpass what AZ could ever be.

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Old 03-03-2009, 18:14
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

Although, SOME AZ poppies are actually P.Som var. Gigantethum that just happen to be grown in AZ, and are called "AZ" instead of "P.Som Gigantheum" online for obvious legal reasons. Should SWIY be lucky enough to come across that variety of "AZ poppy" he/she would be very happy. Theoretically.
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:22
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

Unfortunately being P.Somniferum G/L/whatever isnt enough sometimes and SWIM has found this reported many times over for AZ. Most AZ poppies are cali, but there are as is mentioned P.Somniferum AZ's. Unfortunately these have been growing wild since the chinese settlement in AZ (for gold rush one believes) and has an unpredictable and often poor alkaloid content.

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Old 04-03-2009, 04:04
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

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Unfortunately being P.Somniferum G/L/whatever isnt enough sometimes and SWIM has found this reported many times over for AZ. Most AZ poppies are cali, but there are as is mentioned P.Somniferum AZ's. Unfortunately these have been growing wild since the chinese settlement in AZ (for gold rush one believes) and has an unpredictable and often poor alkaloid content.

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True. SWIM has been disappointed many times on theBay. However he will say there is a reliable AZ based farm that doesnt advertise, word of mouth only and he has never been disappointed by their product. All pms requesting their identity will be laughed at and deleted.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:26
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

Agreed, Evil Bay is not good for Ole Papa Somni's reputation.

SWIM's pet iguana has seen "Arizona select", "Arizona Purple", "Arizona Blue" and Even one called "Arizona Silverback" advertised in many places and whenever it is mentioned here it is usually with disappointment. Occasionally there are reports of AZ being good but this may be from people whom are either/both inexperienced or Opiate Naive so even weak poppies may have an effect for their hypothetical pet hippo.

A popular misconception is that the Arizona Purple has come from the Tasmanian Purple stock, this has been proven to be completely false from the information SWIM has seen. So if any hypothetical scientists see that, it would be cause for a good laugh.

However --->>> The Chinese did bring this strain with them for a purpose. It is possible to find potent varieties of AZ and there have been some good reports from reputable SWIMMERS of exactly this, though they are few and far between. The Chinese brought this stock with them for the purpose of growing and smoking Opium and the stock that has now gone wild in Arizona is indeed a strain that was bred for Opium production. Unfortunately when things are left to go wild the actual drug content of said plant can become unpredictable and in most instances it actually gets lower from inbreeding (As with MJ generations). If there are places in Arizona where different separate settlements from gold rush times could be pinpointed then it would be likely that these different imported stocks would have kept a gtenetic variation going from crossbreeding. This is one Theory for the good quality from reputable sources mentioned on occasion.

SWIM does tell one that many chefs believe that bread seed from high quality Opium producing stock is the best tasting there is, which is the ONLY reason poppy seed is still legal. If one were inclined one would almost certainly obtain good stock with little thought.

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Old 04-03-2009, 18:45
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

All SWIM will say on the subject is that this one farm has never let him down. He made slurry (6 large pods) for breakfast this morning and is glowing and ascending the ladder every hour, even 5 hours after ingestion. This one particular farm knows their shit, and their prices cant be beat except by homegrowing. SWIM is also FAR from opiate naive, his OC tolerance is well into the triple digits and he insufflates diacetylmorphine by the 1/4 to 1/3 of a gram. Yet, he uses only every other day and doesn't base his life around opies and has not been financially ruined by them. Anyway, SWIM says that anyone seeking poppies sitting by the dock of thE Bay will be disappointed in one way or another, either SWIY will get crap product or it will be good for a ludicrous price. SWIMs ex-gf ordered a box of 200 pods off that auction site, paid over $120 for them, and she got no effects even from 20-pod slurries. All they did was relieve WD, and she only had a less-than .2 gram per day IV heroin habit. SWIM tried some of these pods as well and at the level of a THIRTY pod slurry, found only slight relief of oxy/heroin withdrawal.
SWIMs point is, auction sites are set up to rip SWIYs off on pods, but that doesnt mean AZ=bad, you just gotta poke around.
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Old 04-03-2009, 20:03
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

How is SWIM supposed to know where to order from? She has been ordering "purple arizona poppies" from a certain auctioning bay, and she uses about 10-20 of them for any effects, but after reading this is worried that shes been ripped off. How did other SWIYs go about founding a reliable place for potent poppies.
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Old 04-03-2009, 22:17
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

Yo not all sellers on that auction site sell crap poppies, SWIM knows a very reputable seller on that auction site who's been selling them for over 4 years now. Always has a nice selection of top quality poppies. And he's a sound guy too. He's even helped SWIM out a few times when SWIM hasn't had the cash for poppies, he's gave SWIM credit quite a few times.
So don't tar all sellers with the same brush man.
And speaking of which, SWIM's away to enjoy some more hen n chicks that he got in the mail today.

G_nome added 100 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

And please don't PM me asking for sources, i will not divulge such information as it is against the rules.

Post Quality Evaluations:
valid point, points out exception to the general rule

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Old 04-03-2009, 23:58
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

No not all, but definitely the majority. And the other 1% have been fairly low grade from what SWIM has seen. There are private farms out there whom sell poppy pods for flower arranging and even seed stock for cottage gardens. Some of these stocks are even fairly high grade opium producing strains. I was reading one only the other day whom had Persians, Burmans, Turkish Red and also claiming to have the Tasmanian Purple stock. This was not an auction site and SWIM doubts they will ever use it.

The problems with those sites is exactly this. Some warehouse has an over surplus of whatever . . lets say pods or seed stock as it was a gardening company. Some people buy it to liquidate and put the lot on The Evil Bay. They then proceed to sell whatever stock they had at crap prices and ambitious claims to the product. "This is like, Afghani Rainbow Super Poppy" when the fact is that they dont know and cannot ever know what it actually was. No one knows how long the pods have been sitting there, what fertilizers have been used on them, what they have been exposed to in the warehouse, etc etc.

SWIM would personally never touch anything he could not confirm the origins of, even if his bones were buring and he was sweating like an old greek fat bitch on the beach. SWIM has more respect for his own body than to polute it with something he has no idea what is, where it came from or what is on it.

SWIM suggests that . . Yes there may be one or two IF ONE IS LUCKY that are legit on Evil Bay. SWIM also suggests that the majority of people whom can get high of Evil Bay pods have a relativly low tolerance or probably fairly Opiate niave.

The reason SWIM says this is because of the dosages he has seen posted here. Most SWIMMERS are saying that they have had up to 10 or 12 pods in a tea and even in a slurry. SWIM can say right now that if that were to be tried with some REAL pod stock those same SWIMMERS would be anhialated. Any real poppy pod stock should take far less than that. For example, 2 or 3 large pods of any 20%+ stock should be pretty fair for even some Opiate tolerant peoples. SWIMs stock "Mauve maddness" (see thread: Mauve madness, The Directors Cut) Has left even some IV users pretty happy. Some even say more happy than their usual methadone dose.

Any seasoned hypothetical scientists could theoretically benefit from looking for other stock, seriously.

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Old 05-03-2009, 00:15
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

SWIM is certainly not Opiate naive.
SWIM has tried other sellers much cheaper poppies on that auction site place and none of them compare to his regular guy's stock, unfortunately. Would save SWIM a fortune otherwise!
SWIM's regular supplier sources his pods from all over the world, selecting only the best.
I believe that these latest Hen n Chicks he's got are from the Far East. And very nice they are too, says SWIM.
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Old 05-03-2009, 00:23
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

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SWIM hasn't had the cash for poppies, he's gave SWIM credit quite a few times.
Sorry SWIM missed this bit cos his brain refused to see it. SWIM cannot bring himself to believe that under any circumstances an auction site seller is giving credit to anyone, especially when he knows what it is he is selling.

SWIM understands that SWIyou will probably swear black and blue that this is the case but anyone can logically see that nothing will get sent if payment is not made.

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Old 05-03-2009, 00:40
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

Aye well, this guy has got his own site as well as selling on that auction site.

So what, is SWIY saying that SWIM is a liar? If so, why the hell would SWIM lie about that?
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:47
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

SWIM doesn't call anyone anything.

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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

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...Boiled water...
DO NOT boil the water. Boiling the water destroys the opiate compounds in the pods. SWIY should only heat the water until it is in between hot (hurts to touch) & warm...so basically just grind pods to powder, warm the water, stir for 5 minutes (only if intending to strain the ground pods from the water), & thennnn drink it.

If SWIY intends on eating the grounds mixed with the tea/slurry then obviosly the heating step is optional.
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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

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SWIM doesn't call anyone anything.

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Good.
Believe SWIM or not, don't give a shit.

All SWIM will say though is that i doubt SWIM's poppy guy just gives credit to anyone, SWIM has been a good customer of his for the past 8 or 9 months, spending anywhere between £120 to £200 a month. And it was only after SWIM being a good, regular customer for like 6 months that SWIM was able to get credit. SWIM just asked him over xmas when money was a bit tight, seller got back saying sure, any time.
SWIM doesn't hit him for credit all the time, just when money is tight or when stock is running low way before SWIM gets paid again.
I really don't see for what reason why SWIM would make this up. But believe what ye want.
But please don't try and patronise SWIM in future, son.
Thanks.

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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

Um, there is no need for that.

If SWIyou wish to make a rhetorical then make it with a civilized sentence rather than using an expletive or calling someone "Son". SWIyou will notice that at no point did SWIM need to use any such tactics.

SWIM will have nothing more to say on this subject as not to perpetuate any infuriation or potential argument.

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Re: AZ Poppies (Disappointment)

Aye well, and there was no need for implying that SWIM is a liar and trying to patronise SWIM.

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