Swim has just purchased a gram of methylone and a gram of mephedrone and he was wondering if they can be combined at all??
Swim seen some people on a music forum mention this combination but couldnt find info after searching here.
Swim has no experience whatsoever with any of these substances but he got the impression from some folks that in combination it made for a better experience.
Swim will keep reading about them, has been doing so all day today but would love to just ask for any advice to a newbie about this, like would it be wise to combine ? Should he just test them themselves, or as swim is hoping does one potentiate another and make for an even better experience? Cheers
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My Buddha statue loves this combo! He said for beginners you might want to try 150mg of each. He also said this is about as close he has gotten to the real MDMA high.
Great advice thanks folks, funnily enough swim got his package the other day then checked this thread and swiy said dont snort the methylone, swim had just snorted some too, roughly 50mg it was noticable then he snorted some mephedrone, maybe 80mg. So in the future, i.e tonight he will put some in a capsule and swallow.
He had nice effects from when he snorted some, similiar to mdma but the real benefit was the sex he had with his partner, it was the most intense hardcore sex hes had in a long time, his mrs said it was the best sex she ever had Usually with uppers swim can have the problem of maintaining an erection but not with this the other night, he also had red wine and some grass, really happy with his first taste of pure rc's!
Well swim tried roughly 130mg of each in a capsule and had a great experience. Swim feels he has missed out and hope these chems stay legal. Swim was drinking alcohol also and went to a metal club and then a drum and bass club and music was amazing on it, very nice! It was very similiar to mdma and felt very clean though he had a hangover the next day and didnt get a good sleep, so in the future he will probably dose 100mg each.
Sure it was shulgin that said if you have a good experience with a certain dose try a little less and see how it goes. He actually feels it was a little too strong as he was buzzing all night and making a bit of an arse of himself but that could be due to the wine he had been drinking most of the night, but once the drug kicked in he hardly drank at all.
Very surprised and happy at this new ally he has discovered as is his two friends who were also guinea pigs that night, highly recommended!
Swim would agree that 150-200mg would be far too much for this swimmer also. Swim and his friends aimed lower than 150mg and that felt too strong, next time he will try 80-100mg of each as it lasted quite long and peaked a bit too long also, went great with music though, but when the music ended it was still there 2-3 hours later.
He had a lot of jaw clenching and muscle tension, which seemed heavier than mdma or ecstasy tablets hes had in the past. Like when he was going to sleep he kept tensing up and it kept him from relaxing and getting to sleep. Hash seemed to help a little but not much. Good combination though!
I would urge caution with this combination. When SWIM tried it, it seemed to put him in a state of delerium.
He blacked out and when he came around was surprised to discover he had written hours worth of complete gibberish to his ex-girlfriend through MSN (she was offline at the time).
SWIM's friend takes both at the same time as they say it makes a good combe. SWIM has only tried Mephedrone, and like most drugs, would urge caution before combining.
Try both seperately then combine if SWIY feels confident with each.
To save money swim ended up combining them, each time he tried them. He has taken it all now. Swim found 100mg of each was good, he would probably do maybe less the next time. He had 120mg of methylone and 70mg of mephedrone at the weekend, seemed a bit much again, but goes great with drum and bass, swim is all sore now lol Though he did take some theobromine for some potentiation, which he thinks may have worked, swim was drunk and wreckless.
Swim felt a lot of negtivity on the comedown yesterday which was crap. He was mixing with alcohol, but had all the hallmarks of the crap side effects that people get from ecstasy tablets, and he hasnt took them in well over a year, after being a big pill head, dunno whats in them christ. He hasnt had this negativity before with this combo, and the sex with mephedrone is phenomonal! So hes thinking maybe try take it less often.
When swim has the cash again, he will probably invest in these two again, they can be great with a partner like mdma, though his girlfreind took 100mg of each and it was far too much for her, but just right for swim. So be cautious.
Swims got a real downer with this combo, and these drugs in general after yesterdays dodgy comedown. Reminded swim of all the negatvie side effects these things bring, hes never had that with mdma powder though.
Swim really wants to try get a hold of some mescaline as hes heard low doses can be very mdma like, which is what swim likes, but without all the negativity the next day. Swim rarely gets those horrible negative feelings the next day from psychedlics, usually just have to deal with your mind and the epxerience rather than a dodgy comedown, both physically and mentally.
hello! swim just received her first order of these two beautiful chemicals and after some research she is going to do combo as well. could u pls tell how long it takes before they start working and how long before come down? swym writes it lasted too long, but when taking separately, most peple say they each last 2-3 hours max. did swym go through the whole night only on one pill or did he redose (if yes how much)? thanks!
SWIM has relatively clean comedowns on methylone. cant remember mephedrone comedown being that bad but haven't mixed em both.
swiy, .. confused by the use of the word "pill". methylone and mephedrone is sold as powder.
to come up is dependant on stomach content.. in general 45-60 minutes is fairly standard.
most people tend to need a redose which usually works fine as an extension. theres a speedy phase which follows.. please read through the experience threads to fully grasp what these compounds are about before trying.
The first time swim took 125-135 roughly of each it lasted from 9pm till roughly 6am. Swim struggled to get to sleep. The other night swim had taken some theobromine which may have potentiated it, and was induging in some kanna, though just a little bit. He ended up till 2pm in the day from ten the night before, though swim can get this way sometimes, depending on the situation so its probably not a good guide. Aim low and then you should know, try take it early in the evening also so you dont end up all night, unless thats what you want.
EDIT: When swim referred to the word pill he meant ecstasy tablets.
So swim finally tried both last weekend. Around 200mg m1 and 300mg meph bombed on empty stomach and folled 1dcl of vodka a grapefruit juice. And she loved it loved loved it I guess it was quite a big first doze but it worked pretty fine and long! much better than shitty pills she got her hands on recently... cant say too much about come down cuz took another stuff afterwards but generally ok. great eperience!
So swim finally tried both last weekend. Around 200mg m1 and 300mg meph bombed on empty stomach and folled 1dcl of vodka a grapefruit juice. And she loved it loved loved it I guess it was quite a big first doze but it worked pretty fine and long! much better than shitty pills she got her hands on recently... cant say too much about come down cuz took another stuff afterwards but generally ok. great eperience!
That single dose combination is excessive + the alcohol... SWIM advises against anyone using dosages this high in one go. Don't want people turning up at hospitals to the new "devils drugs"
really sure swiy required such a high dosage?
SWIM only takes 250mg to max 300mg on methylone alone to get mad lifted. Adding 2-300mgs of mephedrone and it would be getting a bit nutty..
My fox enjoyed a 60% Mephedrone 40% Mephylone mix totalling about 250mg. This was for the first bump, and really hit the spot. subsequent use of methylone in the same session didnt seem to do much.
swim left a note on my desk which I have just found.
swim is a male of about 100kg. swim made an equal mephedrone to methylone mix of about 500mg and mixed well and split into 2 bombs of equal size (ie 250mg) and took it orally split apart by about 3 hours, the second one had almost no effect at all. Effects were shorter lived than either one on their own and oddly his heart rate was probably the same as usual (72bpm) and the blood pressure higher (183/107 compared to 125/75)- swim has a blood pressure cuff to keep a check on things. the only other effect was his mouth went very dry. no problems using the toilet, nor any dick shrinkage either, that he would normally associate with stimulant usage. prominent veins on hands remained prominent so there didn't seem to be the amount of vasoconstriction as he might have expected, or if there was it was somewhere else to the usual places, eg extremities and knees, but given the blood pressure there must be somewhere. he doesn't think he'll be trying this combo again.
swim has tried this combo a couple of times
and found it to be a little dysphoric the come down
can be a little nasty too
this could be due to alcohol which did not seem to
mix well with this combination
I was wondering what people have decided is the best way to get the most out of these RC's over the course of a night (for clubbing for example; as that's when I'm doing it next?)
I really like the full on come up of mixing about 150mg methylone/mephedrone (300mg total) and the effects last about 2 1/2 hours afterwards.
After that, I take another combo of the same size and the effects are good (not as good as the first drop but still good!)
It then seems impossible to prolong the empathetic/euphoric effects of the methylone any longer and therefore doesn't seem to be much point in continuing with it (I have done in the past and it just seems a waste!)
So I just continue to take mephedrone which gives me a great buzz and loads of energy but this tends to make me anti-social and quite introvert. I still love listening to music but I'm no where near as chatty or social as I would be after a few hours on mdma.
Methylone on its own tho, doesn't have the 'kick' or give me the energy that I'd want for clubbing!! Its a dilemma!!
I was thinking about starting the night with a weaker 50:50 mix (about 100mg each, 200mg total) then doing a bigger bomb (250mg) once thats worn off which is 70:30 in favour of methylone, then 60:40, then 50:50!!
Has anyone tried it like this or found any other method to prolong the euphoric high and the empathy you get from methylone?
SWIM was hoping that a gram of each would be about right for a nights clubbing too. Its a shame that the Methylone isn't longer lasting but SWIM'll have a wicked time regardless!!
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SWIM was hoping that a gram of each would be about right for a nights clubbing too. Its a shame that the Methylone isn't longer lasting but SWIM'll have a wicked time regardless!!
A gram of each on one night is tooooooo much. Start off with a mix of 100-150mg of each then when you plateau- do the same again. Sources suggest it is not worth redosing again a third time as the effect is not different. These RC's just do not have the legs of MDMA and Ecstacy but they are not to be disrespected. drink water, stay safe and focus on what you body is telling you. But.... enjoy. SWIM has 26 days to go....... and has been counting since 95 days!!! SWIM is hoping that his friend can get some genuine pills
SWIM is rather curious as to how this combo should be taken. SWIM understands that methylone should not be snorted, but finds the effects of mephedrone to be much greater when snorted. should both RCs be taken orally at the same time or should he trust his nose with the mephedrone?
SWIM and a friend are going to a BIG club night this friday and will be trying methylone for the first time. Both SWIMmers have had previous mephedrone experiences and have used it occassionaly over the past 3 months.
SWIM was just wondering if anyone had managed to find the perfect balance of methylone/mephedrone on a night out? SWIM and his friend are primarily bothered with the duration of the experience, as it is imperative that full effects are felt when a certain DJ begins his set!
SWIM and friend will be splitting 1g of M1 between them. They plan on taking a 200mg bomb for first dose, followed by a 300mg booster. The 200mg will be taken upon entry to the club, followed by the 300mg ~90mins or so later. They will also have mephedrone on them for lines which are meant to keep energy levels up as M1 lacks the energy kick of mephedrone.
Do any SWIMmers have any more advice on the plan for the night? Perhaps having a line of mephedrone at the same time as dropping the bombs? Or the combination of both into a bomb? Any help would be appreciated
Usually with uppers swim can have the problem of maintaining an erection but not with this the other night, he also had red wine and some grass, really happy with his first taste of pure rc's! 
I guess it was quite a big first doze but it worked pretty fine and long! much better than shitty pills she got her hands on recently... cant say too much about come down cuz took another stuff afterwards but generally ok. great eperience!
and has been counting since 95 days!!! SWIM is hoping that his friend can get some genuine pills
