Opinions - Why, Just Why Do People Take Deliriants?

[WalkingMonstrosity]

Why do people try to trip like this? I don't see what you get out of it, I wouldn't even consider it tripping honestly. More like drug induced psychosis. I mean, if you wanna do OTCs. Why not DXM instead? From what I've read, the delirium sounds horrifyingly unpleasant.


Just curious what people see in this stuff, my friend has had some horrible experiences trying this when he was younger. Feeling the bites of thousands of little spiders, crawling all over him. Feeling like he was dying, it's no different then Jimson Weed.


What leads people to do this stuff? I would never even consider it.

[nate81]

Why do some people like BDSM? Why do some men like other men? Why oh why isn't everyone like me?

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[Joe-(5-HTP)]

swim plans to do this one day when he has no serious responsibilities on. Maybe the summer

Personally, I think it is narrow minded to rule out having painful experiences just because they are painful. For swim, if it is interesting, it is worth having. And delirium sounds very interesting to swim.

Thats all there is to it and, for swim, thats all there is to life.

[Junket]

Originally Posted by Joe-(5-HTP)

I plan to do this one day when i have no serious responsibilities on. Maybe the summer

Personally, I think it is narrow minded to rule out having painful experiences just because they are painful. For swim, if it is interesting, it is worth having. And delirium sounds very interesting to swim.

Thats all there is to it and, for swim, thats all there is to life.

damnnnn you just convinced me to step my psycho game up

haha seriously, i gotta live more

[cra$h]

it's not really unpleasant, but just different. Definitly not habit forming though, but it is easy to go on a little kick since it's so.....strange....... Just another way to test your sanity, much like other psychedelics. It's just this one seems very real.

[Phungushead]

I think a lot of people (or their pets) choose to try deleriants for the same reason SWIM did - curiosity and also avaliability. To many, the idea of having true hallucinations is fascinating.

However, SWIM did not care for the heavy body load, paranoia, or health risks. Which is why SWIM only did it a couple of times.

Just for the experience.

[thirteenthfloor]

Originally Posted by WalkingMonstrosity

Why do people try to trip like this? I don't see what you get out of it, I wouldn't even consider it tripping honestly. More like drug induced psychosis. I mean, if you wanna do OTCs. Why not DXM instead? From what I've read, the delirium sounds horrifyingly unpleasant.


Just curious what people see in this stuff, my friend has had some horrible experiences trying this when he was younger. Feeling the bites of thousands of little spiders, crawling all over him. Feeling like he was dying, it's no different then Jimson Weed.


What leads people to do this stuff? I would never even consider it.

Plenty of reasons:

• dxm doesn't produce visuals
• it can be a very intense real trip (hallucinogens produce pseudo hallucinations whereas deliriants pruduce real ones)
• to tell swiy the truth a very high fever leading swim to believe he was being buried alive is what got him into tripping and questioning conciousness
• sometimes it is all that is availible
• taken with dxm it can be a very mellow trip in the right circumstances and expeirience with both drugs
• being schizophrenic for a day, to understand phsycosis and the sense of reality that some people are forced to live every day
• smoking a cigarette, feeling it on your fingers, breating in the smoke just like you have done a thousand times before, and then realizing that left you cigarretes and your lighter inside and having it dissapear as your fingers close in on each other can be an intense expeirence. (its the difference between thinking you see something and actually seeing something until you realize that it is not real, the cigarette thing is just a common experience, but it explaines the difference between a pseudo and real hallucination)
• seeing something like that that swiy thought was so real and then just a moment later realizing that it is not can really lead one to question the reality of reality.

swim is not trying to condone its use, he has stopped for fear of going insane. but on the other hand if done in the right amount, right circumstances, right person it can lead to interesting theories into the study of human conciousness, shamans have been using delirients for hundreds if not thousands of years. diphenhydramine is a very commonly prescribed drug and is not detrimental in very small doses (used for motion to allergies to colds) or taken once or twice in high doses.

swiy was right in asking the question, but should also rightly ask why people use any drug. overall this is a dangerous drug should not be taken lightly and can lead to phsycosis over longterm periods of use. it should only be used in the right hands as should any drug. swim overdid it and now is stopping use of it, but it has opened swims mind a lot. as in with any hallucinogen you buy the ticket you take the ride, and if you fuck with reality it will fuck you back ten times harder.

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	Alot of truth resides in your post, especially 6th bullet-point and last sentence
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[WalkingMonstrosity]

Originally Posted by thirteenthfloor

Plenty of reasons:

• dxm doesn't produce visuals
• it can be a very intense real trip (hallucinogens produce pseudo hallucinations whereas deliriants pruduce real ones)
• to tell swiy the truth a very high fever leading swim to believe he was being buried alive is what got him into tripping and questioning conciousness
• sometimes it is all that is availible
• taken with dxm it can be a very mellow trip in the right circumstances and expeirience with both drugs
• being schizophrenic for a day, to understand phsycosis and the sense of reality that some people are forced to live every day
• smoking a cigarette, feeling it on your fingers, breating in the smoke just like you have done a thousand times before, and then realizing that left you cigarretes and your lighter inside and having it dissapear as your fingers close in on each other can be an intense expeirence. (its the difference between thinking you see something and actually seeing something until you realize that it is not real, the cigarette thing is just a common experience, but it explaines the difference between a pseudo and real hallucination)
• seeing something like that that swiy thought was so real and then just a moment later realizing that it is not can really lead one to question the reality of reality.

swim is not trying to condone its use, he has stopped for fear of going insane. but on the other hand if done in the right amount, right circumstances, right person it can lead to interesting theories into the study of human conciousness, shamans have been using delirients for hundreds if not thousands of years. diphenhydramine is a very commonly prescribed drug and is not detrimental in very small doses (used for motion to allergies to colds) or taken once or twice in high doses.

swiy was right in asking the question, but should also rightly ask why people use any drug. overall this is a dangerous drug should not be taken lightly and can lead to phsycosis over longterm periods of use. it should only be used in the right hands as should any drug. swim overdid it and now is stopping use of it, but it has opened swims mind a lot. as in with any hallucinogen you buy the ticket you take the ride, and if you fuck with reality it will fuck you back ten times harder.

Swim's not bashing the users or those who enjoy it, Swim's just curious why? It sounds horrifying to him. Swim's tried medium doses before, never got any hallucinations. Just felt very fatigued and paranoid. The highest swim's ever done was 450 mg. Swim's read reports of people getting visuals with as little as 250, never happened with him.

Swim would venture into a higher dose if it wasn't for his arachnophobia. Swim is fucking terrified of spiders, learning this was a common hallucination put him off it entirely. Swim remembers trying to trip at night one time paranoid as fuck, feeling as if huge fucking ones we're going to lunge out at him.

Makes you kinda like a cat, you ever just stare at a cat? It turns it's head in fright at every noise heard, and looks around wide-eyed as if it's surrounded by extremely scary shit.. That's how swim acts and feels on diphenhydramine. That everything around him has some sort demented intent on harming him.


Also DXM does induce visuals, but not open-eyed "frank hallucinations". More so closing your eyes and going into a dream-world. It seems much more pleasant to swim, paranoia is the last thing swim feels when dexing. He feels at peace with everything, opposed to the fear and dysphoric feelings he had on diphen.

[Side_Comment]

When SWIM get's asked "why do you enjoy Benadryl so much?," SWIM can never come up with a good reason for why they like the Diphy...but they DO enjoy it for some reason. Maybe something as simple as an escape? Maybe it stops SWIM's mind from running crazy laps around the "you're really, REALLY overthinking this" train? Maybe because it's easy to get and easy to take? I guess we'll never know for sure...

[RaverHippie]

My raver friend has a nice time with diphenhydramine. He enjoys the body load and paranoia as they remind him of how intense DOB can be. Getting visuals off something otc is a plus but they do not really add much to the trip. Just being put into a state where so little makes sense anymore always seems to be intellectually enlightening in a way. It is like peeling away the layers of delirium is a mental exercise and it helms to center oneself as well as gives oneself better perspective of sobriety.

Diphenhydramine is entirely a legitimate form of psychoactive research. Just because not too many people take to it like LSD does not mean there should be any negative stigma directed toward those who do find value in it.

[doggy_hat]

It's not like other psychedelics like LSD, or shrooms and it's not supposed to be either.

It is drug a drug induced psychosis, and that's exactly why it's so wonderful!

Really the only bad aspect for SWIM's the body load. He's so confused when he's on it that he can't even realize that having a swarm of bugs scurrying around his skin is bad.

[geezaman]

Most of what SWIM might post has already been mentioned.
For SWIM he had a friend who used it alot and encouraged SWIM to use it with the stories of his experiences.

SWIM had an interest from a psychological aspect to experience delirium, and psychosis, and dramamine moreso than other drugs seemed to offer this.

To this day SWIM has not experienced another drug that gave neon visuals, nor a drug that gave visuals that reality did not effect, SWIM could push his finger through a neon spider and out the other side without the spider changing.

Why did SWIM do it? To see. He has now seen and feels truly sorry for those people stuck in deluded states. He still will do it occasionally but gets paranoid about the body load and its effect on his heart etc. If he does it it is now usually after 20+ hours no sleep to give it an extra edge.

Peace
Geezaman

[cra$h]

there's a lure to the unknown, and being a drug with so many variables, it's a way to expose what is unknown. Swim's never found it to be "enlightening", although it did teach swim a little about mental illness, and gave a great understanding to how and why they act, making their behavior more predictable. Plus it's an easy way to get the same effects of sleep deprivation. pretty much 100mg for each night of no sleep.

[geezaman]

Originally Posted by cra$h

.... Plus it's an easy way to get the same effects of sleep deprivation. pretty much 100mg for each night of no sleep.

Good point, SWIM can agree with this though had not realised it.
He imagines part of the reason many of his Dramamine experiences have been while already sleep deprived, are so the earlier effects seem more normal and do not make him paranoid.
Peace
G

[blungblung]

for me dimenhydrinate was just fascinating. i actually saw shit that wasn't there. i saw a disembodied hand crawling on my bathroom wall, shaking the towels.

[Grabnar]

swims used this with all sorts of stuff in various dose combinations, never had spiders even with amphetamine combinations

[Dragonus18]

temporary insanity of course, what the hell else?

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[Matthijs85]

SWIM thinks it could be a very interesting experience, but would have to take a few days off for it, and find a tripsitter for such a long time.

[Grabnar]

swim finds diph to be a combination drug that works as a great addition to non downers in relatively low recreational doses. swim wouldn't reccomend anything above 600mg in a single dose unless of course swiys are into terror.

[LsDxMdma]

A friend i call LSDx, has had some very cool trips on DIPH. Also DIPH is a good way to escape from ones reality, if they feel the need. LSDx has used it for that purpose, and when they came back down, they felt better about the issues that made them want to get away in the first place!

[aowe]

Originally Posted by WalkingMonstrosity

What leads people to do this stuff? I would never even consider it.

Many people didn't always know about the dangers associated with hallucinogens and other drugs in the 1960's so everyone wanted to be cool. As of 2009, The world is full of harmful drugs and substances that aren't easy to recover from. Being Addicted to a drug and having fun with certain psychedelic's or "Deliriants" are choices, and that's what they chose.

[Porterhouse]

I take Deliriants because I enjoy a drug that exemplifies escapism through surrealism, even if I have to endure discomfort to attain it.

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[tripfromthetropics]

My opinions is that some ppl (including someone who is not me) likes to get high on unconventional drugs, its is kinda unique to get a buzz on something SWIM discover.
I've never smoked pot maybe because it is something ppl gets you to, Im tired of seeing weak-idiot girls and guys smoking it just to get some respect on the mob.