Experiences - DMT like trip?

[PapaBurgundy]

After many experimentations with nice doses of the ket+MDMA combo, swim has read about what dmt is like and it all sounds exactly like what swim experienced.

Swim mixed 1 gram of mdma with 1 gram of ketamine and finished them within about 2 hours.

Taken from "TheSite.org"

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[top]The effects:

• People who smoke DMT have described feeling rapidly propelled into an intense alternate reality;
• The primary effects last between 15 and 20 minutes, with a cooling off period of a couple of hours before returning to normal;
• Users have described seeing the face of god to various experiences from visiting other worlds to having conversations with aliens;
• There is an abrupt return to reality and most users will experience disorientation when they come round."

Swim definitely felt all of these; he remembers seeing himself in a sort of pod like chamber, like in the matrix where all the humans are kept. The room also kept changing, not gradually or slowly; there would be a weird colour change in the room and the walls would literally lift off and be replaced by comepletely different walls. This would be the same for the rest of the room. Swim remembers thinking he had transported into a log cabin style room, once the room had changed, which it did completely about 3 times, swim felt as though the previous room was not real and that the present one was reality.

Swim definitely had a few 'abrupt returns to reality'. Swim thinks this was triggered by his friends trying to speak to him, it made swim come out of the trip slightly, for a few minutes, and when he did swim made a hard and tensed movement forward with his head and to the side, this was also accompanied by heavy breathing. But swim remembers going back into the trip as he encountered a couple more of these reality checks.

All in all it was one of the best days of swim's life and made him see things a lot differently.

Was this just a really good k-hole or maybe possibly some sort of dmt release? I've heard that it gets released when your body is under huge amounts of stress or when you have near death experiences. Could the ket+md mix have triggered any of this. At the moment I highly doubt it, but it got me thinking after reading about dmt and thinking about how similar it sounds to trips swim has experienced whilst using these two drugs together.

[Joe-(5-HTP)]

Perhaps if SWIY had taken the Ket and MDMA and then jumped off a cliff swiy might have a better idea of what dmt is like (smoking it, anyway)

those descriptions from "TheSite.org" are typically useless and don't manage to convey at all the feeling of actually experiencing those things. It is like saying you experience "euphoria" when on MDMA... swim believes it is impossible to get anything close to an understanding of the feeling drugs, especially crazy drugs like dmt, unless you try them.

With regard to your DMT releasing postulation, It doesn't sound like you were under actual stress: just an intense k hole. But who knows...

[iamsparrow]

ketamine + mdma + lsd + suicide + coming back to life = dmt.... sorta