Experiences - Ether Experiences

[bogumil]

Because Ether is an alcohol Ill post this here.


SWIM would put some ether on a piece of toilet paper and put that into a plastic bag today. He would breath into this bag. 10, 12, 15 times - nothing happened. He got a little tired so he rested his head on the knees and wennt on breathing into the bag. All of a sudden his head was spinning . lol. Funny thing.He would get up and eat something and it was almost gone ...

[Stingray_313]

Umm, i believe Ether is technically a Dissociative. Check the Dissociative forum under synthetic drugs.



By the way, im not sure what your asking or stating... explain please.

[bogumil]

Yes. Youre right, I had in mind that it cab be made up from ethanol ... Wasnt stating anything. Should have posted into the "trip" report forum ... sorry ...

[dopefiend]

I don't know if i should still answer this but soak a small
towel/bandanna till it wont hold no more and go nuts on the fucker.
You'll feel something in 2 or 3 breaths.

Peace,

Jesse

[genaro]

I use ether this way:


USE diethyl ether !! never use petroleum ether which isa completly different thing.


Place a piece of cotton cloath inside a plastic bag. Pour 30mL ether on the piece of cloath.Gripyour fist around the opening of the bag to close it.Blow some air into the bag through your fist (just make a canal with your fist so you can blowup the bag with air). Grip your fist again to close the bag and wait 1 minute to allow ether vapours to fill the bag. Empty your lungs and breath it quite slowly with your mouth (not nose): place your mouth on your fist (making the canal thing so you can breath through it) and inhale slowly while pressing the bottom of the bag with your other hand so the vapours are pushed through the canal...do it very slowly because inhaling quickly a huge quantity of pure ether can be pretty hard on the throat. When your lungs are full (I said inhale slowly, but you have to take a slow & deep lungsfull), wait 5 seconds before exhaling into the bag to blow it up again.Wait 30 second to allow more ether to evaporate and fill the bag again (this will also allow you to breath normally so your lungs are oxygenated)and then repeat the process. You'll have to keep repeating the process until you feel you're high enough. Usually I would finish inhaling the all 30mL ether vapourswithin 10-15 minutes. Onset is very quick (a few seconds), the high is pleasant, just like alcohol but with clear headness and last for some 15minutes (note that you may feel the ether taste remaining in your mouth for 12h)


WARNING: never smoke when doing this: ether is extremely flammableso you must keep the bag away from any cigarettes.


Ether can be pretty addictive if used regularly and regular use isverytoxic for both the body and mind (inhalants are very dangerous drugs).


Ether is a depressant so never mix it with other depressants (like opiates, benzos, sedativesor heavy alcohol doses)Edited by: genaro

[triptonaut]

I don't understand why there aren't a few ether experiences, so here is mine .

I made a few rules myself for how to do ether:

First, don't go huff some starter fluid, get the pure stuff, you can if you want to, only the pure stuff will get you were nobody else has gone before.

Second, try to be away from home for like 3 days, like with a festival or something like that, because the smell of ether will be around you for a long time, changing clothes and showering doesn't make a difference, the smell is coming from your mouth.

There is another rule some people give when doing ether, that is to not light cigarettes or any fire, because it will set your lungs on fire and blablalbla, I can't give you any advice about such situations, I ligted a cigarette about 3 houres after ether, there were people smoking when trhee of us were huffing ether, so I really don't know, I think it is not really as dangerous as they say, but it's better to not play with your luck, I suppose .

Ok, to the experience now, me and two of my friends did ether for like two times before, but it wasn't really like 'awesome', this thought has changed since the last time though. My buddy can get the pure ether, we call it royal ether, what's in a name . Anyway, we settled a tent on a camping (festival), we took 3 big rags, a handkerchief is not good enough, it is just too thin and there well be alot of ether wasted. From this stage I will tell about what I experienced:

I took the ether, put it on the rag (enough, there was no need to worry since we got 1 liter...), and then started inhaling the ether. For some people it is very difficult to inhale the ether because it is not very pleasing in the begining, at the end, it's just like inhaling air, you even sort of getting adicted to the smell, hmmmm. It's not for nothing that they call ether crack for junies, I guess.

The first two huffs will make you kinda drunk, you laugh very hard.

The next two huffs will make everyhting somewhat different. If you ever took dxm, you see at the world in a different way, well this is something like that, only different offcourse. I was hearing something, like a broke radio in my ears, the zzzzzzzzz sound and it was getting louder. Previous time we had done ether, I stopped here, this is great, you feel great, but it does not last for long, like half a minute then you need more, but this time was different, I went much deeper then that.

After like 6-7 more huffs (it is very hard to count them at that point or even remember, so I am a litle bit guessing, It could have been 12 huffs as well.) Anyway, what happened after that was really mind-blowing, anyone who did ether can confirm that, I will describe it as good as I can. You first lose all control with the normal world, you are actually not aware that you are anywhere. I went to a colorfull tunnel for a while ( but that happened only to me, my friends couldn't confirm that), after that (and this is something everybody can confirm), you feel like turning very very hard, but you are not turning, your thought are turning, you see like hundreds of images passing by, zoof, zoof zoof, you don't know that you are you, some people say 'It was like I was dead', well you could describe it as that but offcourse nobody know what is after death, so I would rather not do that. Anyway, your thought are in your mind, at an incredible speed, but you not really get the feeling that this is happening.

You ever had the feeling of reading parts of a book, completly thinking of something else, and after that you just have to read that part again because you don't remember anything of it, well it's that kind of situation.

When you eventually, and I don't know how long this feeling stays, you could not speak of time (stoned people who were watching us told the moment that we had our eyes closed lasted for about 10 seconds, however I cannot quite believe that because it almost lasted for an eternity.), but when you know that you are huffing ether and all that shit comes back in your mind, you go back to were you were before, I went back to the tent, with my friends. You probably cannot make this up out of my words, but it is really mind blowing, everytime I came back from that merry-go-round of thought feeling, knowing where you are again, I could not say anything but 'wow', and my friends did too. There were certain moments when coming back, that I was just watching the three of us, with some other people, but I was watching myself as well. I cannot describe that feeling because I was too wasted, but I am sure it happened.

My friends had this experience as well, but one of them had another kind of explenation for the thought that were flowing through the mind. He said that he saw all thoughts of hemself, flashing by (just like I did), but then, after a certain moment, it stoped at one image, and that is the image where you are at that moment. Kind of another explanation actually , doesn't make much of a difference.

We did that over and over again, untill one time you really get enough of ether, a feeling of uncontrolable fear I felt, I threw the bottle away and said to my friends 'not anymore, I had enough'. You aso feel goddamn fucked up afterwards, unbelievable. I went to sleep for three houres and when I woke up I was still broke for the day, and probably afterwards as well but we had all the medications we need.


I hope you guys liked the experience, ether is a nice drugs, but be carefull with it because the experience is so addicting, it is hard to say no ...

[Freak_]

Originally Posted by triptonaut

I was hearing something, like a broke radio in my ears, the zzzzzzzzz sound and it was getting louder.

Yeah, I like this noise, I call it the bees are coming ;-) thousands of bees

[1dodgymofo]

sounds same as Butane

[Panthers007]

The effects of diethyl ether, inhaled, is similar to that of nitrous oxide and ethyl chloride. Aside from some buzzing in the ears being possible, they are nothing like butane - which acts as a simple asphyxiant. Similar to drowning.

[chukbzle]

It would best in this case be best to say i agree it feels like NO2, but lasts longer and you can build it up , cool to try once or twice but be CAREFUL itll make you retarded !,literally !! its very euphoric and mixes well with likewise things im told

[dr_haldol]

I absolutely dislike diethyl ether. I'm working with it very often and it's just smelly crap IMHO. How can anyone do it on purpose?!

[Greenport]

SwiM's weasel told him once that it can make the area around swiY's mouth red and painful. He told him that the one-time experience was okay but there are far many more better things out there than that smelly shit. And I, if put in that situation, would probably agree.

It certainly is fun to play with though because of its flammability Just do it outside and don't burn swiY's hand off. Hehe

[Pondlife]

SWIM did Ether many years ago. Once was enough, and he wouldn't touch it again. Here is his story.

One summer evening, about 50ml of lab grade diethyl ether was poured into a wide mouth HDPE container and taken into the garden. SWIM had tried inhaling from a rag before, but did not find it very effective. This time he inhaled directly from the container, which worked out much better. He put his hand over the mouth of the container, swirled the ether to encourage evaporation, and then inhaled from the container in a drinking motion.

The first effects were a darkening of vision and a rhythmic wah-wah-wah sound that was similar to nitrous but slower and lower pitched. As he took more, his vision became darker and the background sound became louder. He started to have strange illogical thoughts, like those in a dream, and became convinced that there was some connection between the background sound and some physical object (he can't remember the exact details now).

At this point, it became obvious that the dose-response curve was getting quite steep. Each inhalation was having an increasingly strong effect. The weird dream-like thoughts were becoming weirder and more pervasive. His vision was becoming darker and his field of vision was becoming narrower. He started to get concerned that he might soon lose all rational thought, so he stopped at this point. He spent a few more minutes outside and then went back indoors.

The "good" effects wore off very fast, leaving a dull sick feeling. He also noticed that he reeked of ether. The next day he felt pretty shitty, not as bad as a full-blown alcohol hangover, but in the same ballpark. After that he was back to normal.

He found that it was just not worth it. The "high" only lasted for about half an hour, and there were significant after effects for most of the next day.

He would describe the experience as similar to nitrous, but much darker. He says that nitrous is much more enjoyable, and has no desire to ever try ether again.

[zera]

A few months ago swim went through several trials of experimenting with inhaled diethyl ether, than after using nitrous oxide notice how the two seemed to produce very similar feelings. Swims ether experimentation certainly included several effects that seem to be classic disassociative effects, most notably losing the ability to comprehend the context of reality. Swim would think all kinds of crazy thoughts about what constitutes the universe, for example holding the cloth up to his face he would begin to believe that the entire universe was nothing more than surface of the cloth, and nothing else existed.

Swim would look at the edges of furniture and being to believe that it was some sort of horizon that was a place he's never been to. Swim would scroll through his music on limewire and start to think each one of the song entries was a person, and that he to lived in the computer. Swim would look at half the room and for some reason believe that it wasn't part of his apartment and somewhere else. Anyway the point being that the thoughts swim would think were very reminiscent of 3rd+ plateau DXM experiences and the physical feelings were similar to nitrous (swim doesn't really stay high long enough ln nitrous to get fully formed thoughts), and swim's never tried ketamine but the loss of self-identity seemed similar to k-hole descriptions.

So ether was definitely used as an anaesthetic, but does anyone know if it is disassociative?

[zera]

Swim seems to have answered his own questions, so I'll post his results here in case anyone has the same question and happens to stumble over this thread. Swim found the following article, which seems to indicate an affirmative answer to his original query:

All of the anesthetics examined depressed glutamate stimulation of [3H]MK-801 binding in a concentration-dependent manner with the following order of potency: halothane > or = enflurane > methoxyflurane > chloroform > diethyl ether...These findings support the idea that anesthetic drugs disrupt NMDA receptor transmission through multiple allosteric effects on the receptor-channel activation mechanisms and the glutamate binding site.
http://general-anaesthesia.com/glutamate-volatiles.html

Basically if I've read the abstract correctly, it seems that volatile anaesthetics, including diethyl ether do indeed inhibit the NMDA receptors, just like Ketamine, PCP and DXM, and should therefore manifest effects similar to what is found in the other disassociative anaesthetics. It's interesting to note that ether was the least potent, it would certainly be a cool experiment to try the most potent, halothane.

[Smuv]

It is interesting you should bring this up as I was just going to write a little something about a distant friend's, friend's experiences with ether.

This source reports, that they used ether heavily one summer. In fact very very heavily, gallons of ether are suspected to have passed through this individual. Some may think it reckless (then again it probably was) but all research on this subject, has shown ether to be non-carcinogenic, tough to overdose on because it only decreases the heart rate at VERY high doses, and physically benign. If anyone has any information (citable preferably) to counter this please post it.

Anyhow, sorry for the tangent, this aquantance has reported some really crazy dissociative effects durring a night of heavy ether usage. In one such occasion I am told for a couple of minutes, this aquantince thought he was god and was agitated that no one had ever told him this.

Another experience reported was dreaming/halucinating (I was told by this aquantance that these halucinations feel like dreams at times) that the ether user was in a hospital, the individual's father was standing by his side, looking into the waste basket of vomit and saying "that shit stinks."

My friend's friend also told me that once while using ether, it was possible to visualize infinity. Which apparently is just too complex to explain...especially to a sober person (such as myself).

Ah and the thing about the rag being the entire universe. My aquantince tells me that when inhailing a thouroughly soaked rag at a very fast rate, one skirts the threashold of unconscouscness and conscousness causing the feeling of kind of becoming part of the rag or that the rag in front of the user is the end of possible perception, it almost seems like a black hole. My friend also reports that ether is an interesting tool to explore the intricacies of human cosciousness.

If you would like to know more, I will surely pass these questions onto my friend's friend.

One side note while on the topic of ether. I have heard, that with the proper glassware, or some crafty work with copper, a still can be produced that easily seperates ether from starting fluid. Keep in mind ether boils at 34.6 celcius, heptane the other component of starting fluid boils at 98.4 celcius. Therefore fractional distillation yeilds an extremely pure product.

I have also been told by my aquantince that it is dangerous to "huff" ether (wet cloth in a bag or whatever) and the best method of inhilation is through a very porous wash cloth which has been folded in half.

[ljfe]

Ether's always been one of SWIM's favorite drugs. SWIM always did a simple water extraction with starter fluid (which isn't anywhere near pure), but it produces some mindblowing effects. Unfortunatly, SWIM noticed that his tolerance increased very fast, and even with month breaks he still barily feels effects. Has SWIY tried huffing ether?

[yamman13]

Swim got some ether from the chemist, got a rag and huffed the lot. smells nasty, but very, very fun stuff.

[doper_hero]

I've tried some from lighter fluid.
I huffed a while and it was great, I floated off and fell asleep though...

[Nagognog2]

Best a small amount is poured into a small jar one's hand fits over to close. Inhale. Seal with hand.

Problem: While high, person hallucinates they are holding a beer or other drink. Result: They drink the ether. Conclusion: Ether is half as toxic as ethyl alcohol. Embarrassment follows.

Caution: EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE! A static discharge can set it off.

[Pino]

My labrat used some ether too. First of all, my labrat would say the experience is better when Nagognog2 advice is followed up. The transition to the various states of mind of ether is slower. My labrat huffs it from a whisky glass:

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Best a small amount is poured into a small jar one's hand fits over to close. Inhale. Seal with hand.

The hallucinations of ether can be quite real. Not because they are looking real, but because ones mind is too mixed upped. Experience, no time measured in the experience only afterwards. +/- 2 hours passed. The T + 0 are only diverting the experience in a subjective manner. They mean nothing.

This is swims experience, more or less collected from his memory afterwards. Two rats participated in it, half the ether bottle of a liter was emptied at the end:

T - 1: My labrats opens all the doors of his house, except for the frontdoor and opens some windows too. The labrat removes sharp objects or other things with which he could hurt himself. He also shuts of msn and other ways of communication with the outside world.

T + 0: My labrat and his friend pour some ether into their glasses. My labrat slowly turn the ether around in his glass then suck the formed damp out of the glass. The smell and the taste is awful as always. His friend has problems huffing the stuff. He takes small huffs.

T + 1: The high comes up. It feels like 6 shots of alcohol. He has the feeling he misses something. More ether is huffed.

T + 2: The wahawahaw sound comes. My labrat realize this is a stage, which he has to come trough if he wants to get behind reality.

T + 3: He thinks about how people can know that and then he hears the wawahwahwa sound is really a voice. It says clearly: You didn't think about this. The labrat laughs. More ether is ingested.

T + 4: He is fighting with his friend about the ether. He didn't want to and gave his to me and then he wanted it back. Swim falls, doesn't feel anything, laughs a lot and afterwards he is scratched. Not badly. He knows everything is a follow up from everything. He is watching some serie and there is some complex plot going on. Then his labrat realizes people only can think only N levels deep. He takes more ether.

T + 5: Labrat is behind reality now. He sees dots in the right area of his vision. It is quite noisy. This is because he only has one contact lens in and the other eye has -7 or so. Somehow his mind doesn't throw the useless noise away. It is really strange, because if he closes his right eye, he sees the dots. This can only happen at this level. His ether is consumed. He gets more ether.

T + 6: He know he has gone a stage deeper. He doesn't know why. Memory starts to get hazy here. More ether ?

T + 7: His friend is laying on the ground now. Saying incomprehensible things. My labrat is talking to someone, who stands in the middle of the room. Are you ok? He asks him. The labrat can hardly see for some reason. His head feels really hazy. He is waving with his hands before him, while he walks towards the wall: "Hello, is there someone? Hello?"

T + 8: The labrat figured it out. There is no one. It was just a hallucination. But a really real one. He starts laughing again. The reality really cracked down now. Everything is derived from a general principle somehow. It is fun to spot the principles. The serie just goes one. The actors sometimes just step into the room. He can't figure out, what they are saying. More ether consumed.

T + 9: Labrat lost his glass. His friend is up and running again for more. He has some conversation with his friend, who isn't lying on the ground anymore. He can't remember about what, only that it made no sense. He got somehow a new glass. The radio starts talking to him. The music gone wild now. Swim can't even guess what it should be. He was listening break core, so that is not helping. He understands, that he need more ether to make this understandable.

T + 10: Labrat and his friend go outside. Getting some food or so. Someone is talking to us. "How are you doing?" Labrats friend keeps repeating: "Really good, really good, really good." Labrat is falling and falling over again. We return from the store with nothing. Labrat couldn't figure out, how to operate his wallet.

T + 11: Back home. Labrat really wants to go deep now. He keeps huffing from the glass. He doesn't remember the upcoming of the ether.

T + 12: Labrat wake up. Really disoriented. He had some strange dreams, which he doesn't understand, they were about layers of reality. He saw a complex network with all kind of things which had some connection with each other. He saw himself split in half, one half purple and with some noisy television like spikes and one half normal. He was in some kind of half state. He was half in reality and half behind it. Swim knocked with his knuckles on the state, that is behind reality. He hears knock knock in the right site of his body. So he realized that the behind reality state should be some mental state. (Swim figured out, that one part of his body must have been paralyzed or something).

T + 13: 2 hours passed. Labrat stopped.

After half an hour labrat was relative sober again. Two days later he got the strange everything is connected with everything thoughts. He was a bit nauseas, but in overall ok. Except for the scratch, but it is just that a scratch. He wont go to that shop for a while. However it was at 2 hours pm, so they could think labrat and his friend were just drunken. Memories are recollected after the experience -like a dream-, but some things just made no sense. He forgot about them. Just like about 90% of the hallucinations. He can't remember them. This time it was really fun.

[trptamene]

SWIM procured a liter of ether (lab grade) and went through it with 5 friends in the night. later on they decided to do hoffman's drops (3 parts alcohol to 1 part ether)...SWIM only did one shot and laid down with some nice visuals with the music for a few hours. but then the ether headache followed.

[Freak_]

For SWIM Ether is not a mindblowing thing. Not one of SWIMs favorite drugs. But a good non polar solvent And if SWIM tried he couln't get into a narcotic sleep from ether. Chloroform is a better and faster buzz but its carcinogenic. SWIM likes N²O more than ether. SWIM would say N²O/Ether/Chloroform is the same system of getting high, not enough O² in brain right?

[trptamene]

I think nitrous actually binds to your nerve cells, I'm not sure about the other two.

The pharmacological mechanisms of nitrous oxide are not fully understood. It acts like a general anesthetic and under high pressure, can cause a loss of consciousness. Hence, experts suspect that it may increase GABA inhibition of nerve cells. GABA is an inhibitory neurotransmitter that prevents the pre-synaptic cells from transmitting. Part of its effect may also be through the brain's built in opiate system, the same receptors that morphine and heroin activate.

from

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...rousoxide.html

[Freak_]

SWIM thinks Ether leads to a massive lost of brain cells, too.