Effects - eye wobbles

[psychoshaman]

hey there... i was wondering if anyone out there could give some info...

it's regarding meth and the likes, lab munkey iv's his speed and has noticed for quite some time that when the euphoria gets near its peak, swim gets these strange eye wobbles, it's hard to focus and sort of leaves you vauge... and well not clear headed, at least not for the rush part....

also the gear seems to be taking a fair while to cross the blood brain barrier comes on long and hard (but nothing like the meth in the early '90's) with these "eye wobbles" could it maybe be unwashed solvents??? or is it just overstimulation or something

any help would be greatly appreciated

psychoshaman added 1096 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by psychoshaman

hey there... i was wondering if anyone out there could give some info...

it's regarding meth and the likes, lab munkey iv's his speed and has noticed for quite some time that when the euphoria gets near its peak, swim gets these strange eye wobbles, it's hard to focus and sort of leaves you vauge... and well not clear headed, at least not for the rush part....

also the gear seems to be taking a fair while to cross the blood brain barrier comes on long and hard (but nothing like the meth in the early '90's) with these "eye wobbles" could it maybe be unwashed solvents??? or is it just overstimulation or something

any help would be greatly appreciated

mydriasis - reflex pupillary dilation as a muscle pulls the iris outward; occurs in response to a decrease in light or certain drugs--- is this what i'm looking for????

[Points4Life]

SWIM's had some dope before that seemed to take quite a while to "peak." (Ice - Birch Reduction, pseudo.) It's not usually like that but, then again, it seems like meth is ALWAYS different from batch to batch or cook to cook.

If it were unwashed solvents, monkey would feel it "sting" the inside of the vein a little - kind of like a missed hit but, no where near as painful and lasting only about 5-10 secs. Ex. "dirty meth" - the shit that turns light brown when water is added - has excess Camp Fuel in it. The shot will almost always burn a little, but if SWIY puts it in the spoon (DRY!!) and heats it from the bottom for a few seconds, SWIY will see the dope start to melt and the excess solvent will "smoke" off.

As for the wobbles - SWIM thinks of them as a sign of good dope (and a big hit.) To him,they're in the same league as "the cough." If SWIM's eyes wobble, it's good dope! It probably has to do with Methamphetamine's tendancy to dialate blood vessels.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Methamphetamine doesn't dilate blood vessels. It constricts them very powerfully. This is part of the reason it raises blood pressure, and people can have their limbs turn blue from taking too much.

Maybe it's just a nervous twitch or nystagmus? MDMA can cause nystagmus. Paranoia? Just try relaxing and not thinking about it while swiy zones out into something?

[psychoshaman]

the lizard is quite relaxed when the eyes start to wobble!!!

[Points4Life]

100mg - thanks for the correction.

"Constrict" was what I meant - SWIM and his new Oxycontin fetish had my mind a little hazy.

[dickshivers]

Yes, swim has noticed eye spasms/twitches recently (last year or so) as well as other side effects such as drip dick (no, its not an STD, i think its from dehydration and dope dick, not sure)
I am not sure its a sign of good dope, i never used to have eye twitching, and that was back when shit would make your head rush for minute after taking a monster hit.

dickshivers added 4 Minutes and 39 Seconds later...

Yes, swim has noticed eye spasms/twitches recently (last year or so) as well as other side effects such as drip dick (no, its not an STD, swim thinks its from dehydration and dope dick, not sure)
swim is not sure its a sign of good dope, swim never used to have eye twitching, and that was back when shit would make your head rush for minute after taking a monster hit.

[BumpBump]

swim got these on his first big sesh on meth yesterday. he gets them very bad of mdma... where some of his friends dont get them

[sasafrass]

Go read some of Alexander Shulgins published papers in science journals from the 60's. With MMDA he called it "stroboscopic". When old hippies were peaking on good MDA they just called it strobbing. While it was a sign of a well made product, it was also probably a sign of some capillary damage.

[snoman5454]

~Is Swiy talking about when they just feel like they're gonna rattle, they are not actually twitching, and the "brain fog" nothing to worry about, you just hit it a couple times to many is all..

[whi7e.ha1o]

Yeah. Swim thinks it feels like eyes are rattling around, small text from even a short distance looks shakey or buzzy. Swim describes it as 'swim's eyes feel high.'

What the fuck man. Swim had it happen from two or three hits off foil. Can't believe that shit. Probably just pupils feeling the stretched open feeling? Swim dunno.

[snoman5454]

~Let Swim say PLEASE DO NOT SMOKE OFF FOIL!! Similar to inhaling fumes from welding galvanized metal.. (Not that its bad in the first place, shit thought it had vitaminC and shit like that) When doing meth, there is (for lack of a better term) a lets say "threshold" on the way up if one "overindulges" or cross that "threshhold", often it has quite the opposite affect ranging from feeling fatigued, nausea, mental stupor or "brain fog", what has been coined "tremors" in this corner of the world (described as feel like quivering or shaking but is all internal nothing outwardly visable).. People have left with a g worth of what could only be described as a "Fucking Mad Man" and called next day bitching that they went to sleep after doing the whole thing!! You didnt go to sleep, you passed the fuck out from overdose!! and as much as know people hate to hear as well as hate to say.. Sometimes shit has to be "duffed" so people dont hurt themselvs.. Otherwise there would be a literal trail of bodies because many hardcore addicts (and every case is different, thats given) have a hard time saying "WHEN"

[SmokeRings]

SWIM doesn't smoke that way, but is there actual PROOF of foil doing what you state in your post snoman?
SWIM just wonders, isn't trying to be rude, just really isn't sure if there is actual proof of this.
SWIM smokes out of glass only, would drop everything and go buy one if she had to before smoking off foil, just cuz it's weird and silly to her, but she still isn't sure if it's factual what you state. Any references?

[sasafrass]

When methedrine was still legal to buy in ampules in US drugstores, many people would strobe from an IV shot of 10 mg., of i.e. pure meth. People who have used clean mda will tell you in the 100-125mg. range taken orally, will cause you to strobe your ass off. And as far as reading fine print ... forget it for a few hours. None of those effects have to do with foil. That does not mean foil does not add to the chemical soup ones inhaling, I have no idea. Most anything combusted changes chemically.
Much of meth, depending on your body's ph at the time, is passed in the urine unchanged. Like pharma companies using pregnant horse urine to make premarin for women, you can actually extract a fair amount of meth from ones urine. Not to say one would want to.

[snoman5454]

Ok.. Here is your proof.. Take a piece of foil and prepare it just like swiy always does and heat till it burns through inhaling the fumes.. How does it taste? smell?