Other - Did Swim ruin the trip by Throwing Up?

[iamsparrow]

Swim Just drank a glass of 450 seed morning glory water extraction about 15 min ago and just threw up about 5 min ago.

Did swim throw up all lsd?...

In other words is the whole trip ruined now?

iamsparrow added 0 Minutes and 57 Seconds later...

lsa***

[DarkDead]

10 minutes isn't enough for absorption so yes, probably swiy won't feel a thing. I read somewhere that seeds should be kept in the stomach for at least 30 min.

[TheMainException]

Bummer dude...total waste. After an hour it would probably have been okay, but not 10 minutes.

[Joel2k11]

Yeah that's too early. You might get a little vascular constriction but that's about it.

[Potter]

Drink it back down!!!

Sorry couldn't resist. Do hope you report back though.

[iamsparrow]

well... It was bunk anyways. Swims friend took the same dose... didn't throw up and still didn't trip.

Don't know what went wrong.

Swim followed the extraction fairly closely.

Swim added a little lemon juice and flavored water right before drinking to help with taste... Did this ruin it?

Wouldn't see how thats any different from it mixing with other things in the stomach.

[Potter]

lemon won't effect it.

Mg seeds are not consistent. You might not have had the right cultivar (UFOs, Heavenly Blue, Pearly Gates), they may have been old, they simply might not have had enough alkaloids. Frankly a failed MG tripp isn't surprising, it happens all the time, pegging down a specific cause is going to be difficult at best (though puking before absorption is for sure an issue here).

[iamsparrow]

The thing is, swim has a list of ethnobotanicals left to try. Swim isn't going give up on lsa... maybe just try a different route, like hbw.

Swim is gonna try an more advanced extraction method and/or just eat a batch soon... Just hope I can hold it down.

[TheMainException]

Originally Posted by iamsparrow

The thing is, swim has a list of ethnobotanicals left to try. Swim isn't going give up on lsa... maybe just try a different route, like hbw.

Swim is gonna try an more advanced extraction method and/or just eat a batch soon... Just hope I can hold it down.

My lizard has a list like that. He says Ginger gum takes some of th edge off the nausea. One guy said that taking a shot of liquer numbs the stomach...I think that would make me sicker....but it's worth trying if other things don't work.

[Potter]

Originally Posted by TheMainException

One guy said that taking a shot of liquer numbs the stomach...

Sounds like an alcoholic justifying their abuse. On the other hand a good strong ginger tincture might be a reasonable way to get the ginger down, but you'll need to make that your self. But don't think a shot of vodka is going to help here.

[iamsparrow]

Swim took two ginger capsules before drinking the water and still threw up in the first ten minutes.

[TheMainException]

Did SWIY eat anything? Empty stomach or full stomach are both bad things. A bit of bread or some very light food right before could settle things a bit as well. As for the ginger...get a bit more in there. Whatever the recommended dose is, at least double it.

[iamsparrow]

Swim did eat a lot before downing the drink. (about a pound of spaghetti and a steak)

Could it have been the sparkling soda water that ruined the drink?

[TheMainException]

You can't be serious? SWIY drank sparkling soda water? That would make me sick without a drug in my stomach. A pound of spaghetti and steak too? No wonder. Those two in combination with a drug like LSA and anyone's bound to chuck it. Next time, have SWIY try a small bit of a food (he can eat again when the nausea ceases) and a bit of water while swallowing the LSA (and ginger if he decides to try that again as well).

[iamsparrow]

Swim actually has a pretty tough stomach... Didn't even throw up on ayahuasca twice so I don't know what the problem was

[TheMainException]

Every chemical reacts differently. Even similar ones can cause a different reaction. Even the same one depending on stress levels, bile levels, all sorts of things...

[Potter]

And get some real ginger. Store bought herbal capsules are a virtually unregulated market and you have no idea as to their quality. Go buy some fresh ginger, or crystallized, or picked ginger.

Soda, a pound of pasta and a steak is not a good prep meal. Try a small serving of lightly buttered rice, or some sort of unseasoned gruel. Maybe a cup or two at most. Snack on the ginger both before, during, and after consumption, have some in case you start to feel queasy.

[TheMainException]

Potter: When snacking on ginger, what is the recommended snacking amount and method? A root of ginger in your first and a bit of gnawing on it until you've eating down a segment of it and then wait a bit? Or a couple teaspoons?

[Potter]

Teaspoons. A little goes a long way, especially if it's raw. Consider that it is "hot" and eating a lot of it may make your mouth raw, which if it fails in the stomach is going to make things worse.

[TheMainException]

Originally Posted by Potter

Teaspoons. A little goes a long way, especially if it's raw. Consider that it is "hot" and eating a lot of it may make your mouth raw, which if it fails in the stomach is going to make things worse.

Yea...it is a bit hot, you're right about that. (a weird hot tho). I've never attempted to actually try it raw on its own, but when SWIM goes on her next trip, she wants to try it that way.