Drug info - being 100% sure of purity.

[Joe-(5-HTP)]

Ok, so swim has the opportunity to buy a very large (about 100g) single solid MDMA crystal. If swim then tries a bit to make sure its not meth or anything and uses a testing kit to identify the presence of mdma, can he be 100% sure that it is unadulterated pure MDMA? (assuming the crystal is a snow white color) Is there any further steps that could be carried out to be more sure of the purity? are any further steps necessary? If the crystal is slightly brown instead of white- would that matter?

Swim feels it a very worthwhile investment as it would reduce his chance of dying to pretty much zero as long as he isn't stupid enough to get dehydrated, overly hydrated, too hot or too cold.

[SullyGuy]

acetone wash?

[KyleM]

Originally Posted by Joe-(5-HTP)

Ok, so swim has the opportunity to buy a very large (about 100g) single solid MDMA crystal. If swim then tries a bit to make sure its not meth or anything and uses a testing kit to identify the presence of mdma, can he be 100% sure that it is unadulterated pure MDMA? (assuming the crystal is a snow white color) Is there any further steps that could be carried out to be more sure of the purity? are any further steps necessary? If the crystal is slightly brown instead of white- would that matter?

Swim feels it a very worthwhile investment as it would reduce his chance of dying to pretty much zero as long as he isn't stupid enough to get dehydrated, overly hydrated, too hot or too cold.

For 100% certainty, have SWIY put a small amount in a capsule and submit it for laboratory testing. Check out Ecstasydata.org

[Lasha-Giorgi M.D]

well as swim knows(and he knows a lot especially about mdma) you will never have guaranties that what you are buying is 100% MDMA. testing kits? lol you must be jokeying, well they won't hurt anything but thay won't neither give you a 100% result, not even a good result cause they just telll you whether MDMA or MDMA like molecules are present in a substance or not. sending it in laboratory is also a good idea and may be the most good way to find out what you are paying money for but swim wouldn't do that in his country for sure. and even that can't tell it's MDMA or MDEA for sure. colour and taste can also trick you. so there is only one way to be sure that what you have is 100% MDMA just make it yourself . so anyway it's up to how that dealers is honest really.

[KyleM]

Originally Posted by Lasha-Giorgi M.D

well as swim knows(and he knows a lot especially about mdma) you will never have guaranties that what you are buying is 100% MDMA. testing kits? lol you must be jokeying, well they won't hurt anything but thay won't neither give you a 100% result, not even a good result cause they just telll you whether MDMA or MDMA like molecules are present in a substance or not. sending it in laboratory is also a good idea and may be the most good way to find out what you are paying money for but swim wouldn't do that in his country for sure. and even that can't tell it's MDMA or MDEA for sure. colour and taste can also trick you. so there is only one way to be sure that what you have is 100% MDMA just make it yourself . so anyway it's up to how that dealers is honest really.

I think you should check out ecstasydata.org as well. Then you would be able to see for yourself that they can clearly distinguish MDMA and MDEA (also known as MDE). Do a search by contents and scroll down to MDE.

[Joe-(5-HTP)]

Thanks for your replies all

swim checked out Ecstasydata.org as advised and it seems he has to pay $120 to get a sample tested. Also, it does not say if they accept samples from the UK. Even so, swim thinks he will buy a larger crystal, say 200g, and spend the $120 to get it tested. then he will have a life supply and wont have to worry about adulteration.

[julian]

Originally Posted by Joe-(5-HTP)

Thanks for your replies all

swim checked out Ecstasydata.org as advised and it seems he has to pay $120 to get a sample tested. Also, it does not say if they accept samples from the UK. Even so, swim thinks he will buy a larger crystal, say 200g, and spend the $120 to get it tested. then he will have a life supply and wont have to worry about adulteration.

Instead swiy could insist that he tries the product before he buys it. This does not seem like an unreasonable request seeing as it is such a large purchase.

[piuiher]

yeah he could bioessay it 2 times.. One with say 60mg. He should feel something but not much. Another time 100-120mg . Thsi time he should be skyrocketed to heaven. Or maybe have someone else try the smaller amount adn you can try the proper one. Thsi way yo ucan workout in one go if you're dealing with the right stuff. Not 100% sure but still alright i guess.

[KyleM]

Consuming it does not ensure 100% purity, no matter how experienced you think you are. The absolute only possible way to ensure 100% purity is to have it laboratory tested unless someone made it for themselves, which is not the case here.

The person who asked the question already implied the following: Someone Who Is Not The Person Who Posted The Thread would be purchasing and not making it himself and would be trying a little bit first and using a test kit. Then he went on to ask what could he do further to guarantee 100% purity? It seems people aren't fully reading what the poster had said in the original post of the thread.

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Good directing of the thread back to the topic.

[julian]

Originally Posted by KyleM

Consuming it does not ensure 100% purity, no matter how experienced you think you are. The absolute only possible way to ensure 100% purity is to have it laboratory tested unless someone made it for themselves, which is not the case here.

The person who asked the question already implied the following: Someone Who Is Not The Person Who Posted The Thread would be purchasing and not making it himself and would be trying a little bit first and using a test kit. Then he went on to ask what could he do further to guarantee 100% purity? It seems people aren't fully reading what the poster had said in the original post of the thread.

Of course you could not ensure 100% purity but you could ensure high quality by consuming it.

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by julian

Of course you could not ensure 100% purity but you could ensure high quality by consuming it.

i think that statement shows too much faith in the purity of mdma these days

[julian]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

i think that statement shows too much faith in the purity of mdma these days

I did not mean that trying it is going to ensure it is high quality. I understand the statement is flawed, but it is just syntax. Let me rephrase:

If you try it, you can confirm whether or not it contains an acceptable amount of MDMA.

[RaverHippie]

i see what you mean

swim could try it and if it met swim"s standards then that"s all that should matter

[julian]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

i see what you mean

swim could try it and if it met swim"s standards then that"s all that should matter

Precisely.