Experiences - lsa and lsd

[iamsparrow]

Swim has had more than one extremely powerful lsd experiences. Swim would like to think he is a pro tripper but dmt and select phenelthylamines have showed him otherwise.

Anyways... This weekend will be swim's first morning glory experience. Swim would like to think that his experience with lsd should give him a good idea of what is to be expected but Swim has heard from many different sources that the experience is completely different.

After having his ass kicked by ayahuasca last week Swim is just trying to be cautious.

Although seemingly juvenille, Swim like OEV and hallucinations.... It puts him in a more childlike mindstate which allows swim to overcome alot of anxiety which results from trying to controll his ego and the general direction of the trip. Swim find that the surreal world presented from hallucinations to be more immersive and easier for swim to absorb the alternate reality.

Sooo... to get to the point......

Swim would like to have some OEV's but not take the dose to a breaking point.

Swim heard 400 seeds is a good first time dose but because swim is experienced with lsd (which is soooo much more powerfull) swim would like to try more. maybe around 600-700.

Is this inadvisable?

Swim ordered 700 seeds and would prefer not to split it into two doses.

Is the difference between lsd and lsa (Trip wise) significant enough to make swim feel completely foreign to the lsa trip?

[DarkDead]

Swiy shouldn't expect as much OEV from LSA as he gets from LSD. They aren't as vivid and colourful. For SWIM and for the majority of those who's trip is reported here on DF LSA puts them in a mind state very similar to LSD but with less visual effects.

I would advise swiy to eat just 400 seeds.
As a natural product the concentration of LSA in seeds varies from source to source. There is always the chance that swiy seeds are more potent than the average.
Swiy doesn't know how his body will react to the vasoconstriction LSA produces and to the nausea produced by fats in the seeds. Those two side effects can prevent him from having a relaxed experience.
Give a look at extraction methods. Tell swiy they help in reducing nausea what most of the times allows a more pleasant trip.

It's the general rule: when trying a new drug always start low and then increase the dose gradually.

[iamsparrow]

Swim does want to play it safe but also doesn't want to have a weak trip off of 400 seeds and then be stuck with only 300.

Swim heard about the cold water extraction but was wondering if there were any other extractions that are more efficient and don't require a cookbook full of technical blither blather. (swim isn't ignorant... just lazy)

[DarkDead]

SWIM would prefer wasting 300 seeds and having a weak trip than dealing with leg cramps during 6+ hours. Those 300 seeds can be stored and consumed when swiy gets his hand on another batch.
Also 400 seeds isn't a low dose. According to Erowid it's a strong one. SWIM once had a nice experience full of insights with just 300 seeds. He says he could compare it to a 80ug LSD trip he had before.

A good tip is to eat them on an empty stomach, reduces nausea and increases the effects.

The CWE is the simplest extraction available. It's really straight forward and I don't see any techincal blither blather there.

[iamsparrow]

Swim will probably use the cold water extraction method. Swim has plenty of ginger capsules which completely eliminates nausea when using dxm. Im sure the same can be applied for MG.

Swims favorite effect from lsd is the symmetrical weaving patterning which he sees even at low doses.

Can Swim expect this from lsa?

[DarkDead]

Ginger it's a good idea. I've heard it works for many people.

If swiy expects that effect from LSA and concentrates his attention on it probably it will happen. As swiy is used to LSD it'll be easy. But don't stick just with visuals use swiy trip to expand his consciousness to think about swiy, his relation to himself, to others and to the world.

[iamsparrow]

Absolutely... Swim agrees, Visuals just make everything more fun though