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Old 18-02-2009, 23:19
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My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

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From Carole Malone:
He's off his Nutt

I DON’T know why this government pretends it thinks drug- taking is a huge problem when it spends inordinate amounts of time and money trying to either legalise or downgrade them.
What idiocy was it to set up a committee headed by so-called drug expert Prof David Nutt, who thinks it’s a great idea to downgrade ecstasy from a Class A to Class B drug—and having failed there now wants LSD downgraded from Class A to Class B?
Just how much is Prof Nutt (head of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs) being paid for no one to listen to him?
Does he actually have or know children who’ve died an excruciating death from ecstasy?
Has he ever looked at how such needless deaths affect the parents and families of these dead kids? And how the hell was he ever chosen for this job in the first place when he thinks taking ecstasy is no more dangerous than horse- riding?
Does this idiot academic ever read the papers? Does he know the number of 10 to 16-year- olds convicted of drug offences since Labour came to power has rocketed by 149 per cent as a result of this government’s sloppy, wishy-washy, completely confused messages on drugs?
If Prof Nutt thinks taking ecstasy tablets in the conditions our teenagers take them isn’t dangerous, why doesn’t he down a handful in front of a few TV cameras and experience first- hand what he’s telling a whole generation of kids is (almost) harmless?
So I emailed her and said this:

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Right, you might want to think before you speak, On the issue of David Nutt, he is an expert and has been studying the effect of these drugs for years, he has used simple maths to work out that actually ecstasy is less dangerous than horse riding. You say what about all the young people who have died needlessly from ecstacy well what about the families of all the people who have lost a loved one from horse riding accidents, there are a lot more of them than there are of famillies who have lost some one from ecstasy.

Now you who seem to moan no end about how much money this government wastes, fail to realize we waste billions trying to tackle drugs through the criminal justice system, and we havn't actually reduced supply or availability of drugs. All we've managed to do is turn the supply of drugs over to the criminals and fill our prisons with people who have done no worse than the equivilant of drinking alcohol.

Do you drink alcohol miss malone? please tell me you do like all middle class people do. Well why is alcohol not illegal. Thousands die each year from alcohol related problems, should we ban alcohol? No because prohibition didn't work in america in the thirties and it sure doesn't work for any other drugs. How many people have died from cannabis overdose 0. yes zero nil zilch none, But cannabis is illegal, oh and don't forget Holland where the sale and consumption of soft drugs are legal have about the third of the rates of drug use that the UK has.

Has professor Nutt read the papers you ask. Well yes probably and realized what unscientific drivel is spouted in the newspapers about drugs. Most of the headlines 'Cannabis Causes Psycosis' for instance Are actually exaggerations and in some cases down right lies. Now I'm not saying cannabis is harmless, it is a harmful drug, much less than tobacco or alcohol but still a harmful drug. It's not me saying this if you read the proper, 'Peer-Reviewed' scientific studies that have been repeated and carefully thought out, carried out on a large demographic etc. you realize that in actual fact cannabis HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN TO CAUSE PSYCHOTIC ILLNESS!. There has been a link made but wheather cannabis is a causal factor is still unclear. Proff. Nutt Is actually quite sensible he's not saying drugs are harmless he's saying let's compare the risk of drug use to other dangerous activities in society and that these are the comparitive harms. How can you deny that horse riding is more dangerous than ecstacy if you look at the figures this is clearly stated.

Now you say too many young people have ended up in prison because of the liberal attitude, is that not because of the criminal penalties associated with drug use. Does this not show that our drug laws are failing if so many are being needlessely arrested. Why are criminal penalties in place? THis is a PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AND NOT A CRIMINAL ISSUE.

If we ended drug prohibition, rates of drug use would not go up, and we could make them fall through good education. By Not having drugs in the hands of criminals we could regulate the supply. You're worried about kids getting drugs huh? well would it not be far more sensible to regulate drugs so sales to under 18's are not allowed like with tobacco and alcohol. I would also propose stricter regulation of alcohol and tobacco as to see kids don't get their hands on drugs. Remember drug dealers don't ask for ID, Drug dealers offer harder drugs to kids and get them hooked on smack (another thing regulation and control would stamp out).

Oh and by the way I don't take drugs, and if prohibition worked and drugs were impossible to get then I might support it but clearly it doesn't and we need a more realistic approach.

Please I'm dying to hear your response to this hope I havn't sounded arrogant, Please get back to us.


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  This is what we need - challenging media idiocy
  
  A useful well structured and informative argument.
  
  Good reply to that daft colunist, well done. But what ye doing reading THAT paper?!
  
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  Columnist b-slap very nice
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Old 18-02-2009, 23:30
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

Could you link the article? I couldn't find it
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

That is an excellent response. I would be very interested to see a reply, but I doubt that you will get one. As the end of that article said, I would love to see Prof. Nut take some (high quality; how all pills would be with regulation) ecstacy, and have a nice time on camera while continuing to explain his views.
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Old 18-02-2009, 23:34
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/colu...rt-a-grip.html

I would love to see professor Nutt gurning his tits off on some good MDMA.
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

the reason so man kids have died from ingesting Ecstasy is because they are buying it from these shady clandestine labs who think it's cool to sell their PMA tabs as MDMA. swim knows this from experience.
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

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the reason so man kids have died from ingesting Ecstasy is because they are buying it from these shady clandestine labs who think it's cool to sell their PMA tabs as MDMA. swim knows this from experience.
You have had a PMA tablet? People can be allergic to MDMA though and die. I know that that is the case with most things though nuts included.
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

Good jub buddy, it's excellent response indeed, calm, reasonable, balanced and to the point. It takes courage to tackle these issues and you did it very nicely. Alf blows you kisses from space
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

Nice reply, let us know if you hear anything back
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

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Nice reply, let us know if you hear anything back
Sadly, we all know that that is very unlikely. And even if there was a response there is no way that it would be satisfactory .
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

Great response, but let's face it, you're wasting your time writing to these pricks.
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Re: My email to NOTW collumist over stupid fucking opinion.

The author of that article carol malone SWIM new he'd seen her somewhere, it was when he was having trouble sleeping, and sky three played this awful program which she hosted, awful, awful program, it's called GUILTY and it's just fucking terrible fuck carol malone.
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