Closest RC to LSD"

I love LSD, the way it makes me laugh, the visuals, and the way it makes you view things. I want a Research chemical that is close to LSD that you can get. Something really visual that makes you laugh, I heard TMA-6 comes pretty close.

[nanobrain]

no, there are no research chemicals that are close to LSD in effect as it has a unique pharmacological profile.

some would venture that 2C-E rivals the LSD experience for intensity.

[dr ACE]

there is no rc which is the same as LSD, but 2-ct-7 has some pretty strong visualsEdited by: dr ACE

[gn2osis]

4-HO-MiPT is pretty visual, but shorter-lived than LSD, like shrooms. Euphoria is a pretty subjective thing. <!--
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[Barron]

What about LSA (morning glory, hawaï wood)?

[shadistik]

2c-e gives you incredible visuals and makes you laugh as hell and it lasts long...

[korky8097]

ive been pondering this for a while but havent found a real concrete
answer, how does 2c-e differ from 2c-i? As in does 2c-e have the
euphoria of 2c-i or does 2c-i have the depth and intensity of 2c-e.

[gn2osis]

Originally Posted by korky8097

ive been pondering this for a while but havent found a real concrete
answer, how does 2c-e differ from 2c-i? As in does 2c-e have the
euphoria of 2c-i or does 2c-i have the depth and intensity of 2c-e.

Apparently a qualified yes to both questions: for many people,
2c-e seems less euphoric but quite a bit more visual than 2c-i,
and 2c-i is a bit less potent than 2c-e but still perfectly capable of
a
strong +3 as the dosage is boosted. (Compare the dosage ranges
for each given by Shulgin.)


Edited by: gn2osis

[QGdoxl]

From Swim's experience 2c-e visuals rival that of lsd (at least at the
strength of the street lsd these days). Swim has tried up to 6
blotters of lsd and never had the visuals of 26mg 2c-e.



Alass the laughing that lsd brings swim has not experienced that on
anything except lsd and mushrooms. If the 2c-e or 2c-i gave the
"laughs" like cid or shrooms I don't think swim would ever go back to
street drugs again. For one thing Swim tends to trust RC
suppliers a bit more than street thugs for consistantcy and cleanleness
of product. Who knows what those dirtbags on the street put in
there shit to make a bit more money

[Solidly-here]

Wouldn't it be nice, for an LSD-25 clone?


My first psychedelic was LSD. I found some in Santa Cruz. I took a hit, and laid out on the sand, watching the ocean waves. While some of those feelings and thoughts are replicated in other chemicals, the one thing I miss most is the feeling that I am shining inside, and then as I look around (sometimes) I see the world brighter than ever. I quickly (in a couple months) used up the few hits I had.


Then, after failing to score again in Santa Cruz (and even two 2-hour stints in the Haight-Ashbury, in San Francisco), I decided to get some Research Chemicals, after reading about them in a major Web info site (which will remain nameless).


Since this was BEFORE the DEA closed all of the US sources, I casually got some 5-Meo-Dipt. It was pretty powerful, like a hammer, reminding me over-and-over that I was tripping (unlike LSD, which is smooth). Later I got 4-HO-Dipt (along with its first cousin 4-Acetoxy-Dipt); this is good stuff, and my choice to this day.


The one BIG thing about these RCs: I do not come down until about 12 hours later. Boy, I thought (hoped) that it would only affect me like that the first time or 2. It still does.


I usually use4-HO on days that I am doing several hours of something (this eats into that 12-hour shift). It helps me stay concentrated on what I am doing. The trick is, I can focus on doing whatever I am doing in the best possible way (perfecting my movements, my attitude). This makes my day really exciting, and fun.

[prospero]

For me DPT is very, very similar to LSD, though obviously a hell of a lot shorter. I don't really find2-CE or 2-CT-7 to be that much like LSD, although there are similarities.


It's funny because I generally reckon Tryptamines have avery different feel toPhenethylamines. However LSD, which Shulgin classifies as a Tryptamine, definitely feels like a Phenethylamine to me. DPT, which is definitely aTryptamine, also feels like a Phenethylamine. They're the only two exceptions though.

Nevermind, it was TMA-2 that comes close to LSD. I was reading it on erowid. All I'm looking for is a drug that makes you laugh, and gives you visuals, and well nevermind. I don't think anything will ever be able to replace LSD.

[moeBius]

there is no rc that is similar to lsd cause it's a very unique substance.



there are some analogues made by shulgin (al-lad, eth-lad & pro-lad) but none of the obtainable rc is really close to it.

all phenetylamines i've taken created a unique mood that is defenitely different from that created by indoles as lsd.

tryptamines are closer related to lsd, amt for example can be compared
to it because of it's lenght and lsa is the chemically most similar
substance that you can get hold of.

Edited by: moeBius

[GDxCAT]

i found both AMT andDPT to be similar to LSD yet they are completely different from each other.

[dmax]

Feh. None of these are remotely similar to LSD. And very
few of them are even similar to each other. The 2c's all seem
like distant cousins, and the synthetic 4hos seem related, but nothing
else seems similar to anything.

Your right. Nothing can even compare to LSD, and nothing ever will.

[gn2osis]

Originally Posted by crazyaznX

Your right. Nothing can even compare to LSD, and nothing ever will.

Some folks actually prefer shrooms and the synthetic 4-substituted
tryptamines to LSD. Lucy can be too long-lived and edgy, and its
fungally-related cousins strike some as being just as visual and if
anything more euphoric. Just goes to show.....

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[joachimist]

Maybe a mix of all the above mentioned substances, at very low doses

but i wouldn't try this before having tried each separetly !

it is surely not a good idea but i really wonder what the effect would be

Originally Posted by _jo_

Maybe a mix of all the above mentioned substances, at very low doses*but i wouldn't try this before having tried each separetly !it is surely not a good idea but i really wonder what the effect would be

I AM VERY SORRY I GAVE AN UNSUSPECTING FRIEND A POWERFUL RESEARCH CHEMICAL AND I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN.


And till this day, he still isn't right. His fingers sometimes do things that he doesn't make them do, he can't remember shit, he'll be flipping burgers, and he'll just keep flipping and flipping and flipping. I think that mix made him a little bit retarded.Edited by: nanobrain

[dr ACE]

mixing rcs is really dangerous cause taking them on their own is really dangerous anyway,lol,.cause so little is known about thier long-term effects, so its basically immpossible to know exactally what mixing any two or three or more together will do in the meantimeor the long term. its best to research them individually first and if you think your getting the feel for them enough,plushaving an in-depthunderstanding of the chemistry involved then you could consider mixing them very carefully to see what happens.swim finds on thier own is allways best cause most are so powerfull anayway Edited by: dr ACE

[Tarkovsky]

I have quite a history with LSD. For me the closest RC toLSD was a good clean fresh bash of 5meo-dipt. Next would be DPT. I think 5meo-DIPT got a bad name because very dirty batches where be supplied which caused a high body load. I had several grams of foxy from Pondman which where simply divine and had little to no body load at high doses.


Cheers,
Tark

[raven3davis]

Like most everyone here has stated, no RC can compare to LSD. Out of all the drugs I have done, no compound has taken me where LSD has taken me, to a place where there were no worries, and where I knew at that moment in time, nothing could happen to me that could make me feel sad. LSD was my first psychadelic to use and will always be my favorite. IT is so powerful, life changing and serene, I think LSD could change the world if we just let it. Even though I dont want to compare rcs to LSD, I would have to say that 2c-e feels a lot like LSD and also DPT. I think DOB feels similar to LSD too. Several of my friends given blotter with .75 mg DOB on it thought it was LSD.

[Sick Jack]

Every stuff is different and I think it's kind of "fetishism" this tendance to compare all compounds to products as acid or shrooms. I know that it comes from their respective notoriety, but forget the comparisons and try to enjoy your stuff for its uniqueness.

The only advantage that I found in this better known products is that because of their long use by humans, we already know about their respective long-term side-effects.

For me, the most important thing is the "journey" in itself, not the vehicle that I use to "travel".Edited by: Sick Jack

[allyourbase]

off topic, but would 4-aco-DMT be outright illegal or could it be considered a research chemical?

[JewishNazi]

while it in and of itself wouldnt be illegal, it would eventually
degrade and some will turn into the illegal 4-HO-DMT (psylicin).



Anyone considered a methoxy group there instead?