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<H2>#33 2C-I</H2>


2,5-DIMETHOXY-4-IODOPHENETHYLAMINE


SYNTHESIS: A mixture of 7.4 g phthalic anhydride and 9.05 g of 2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine (see the recipe for 2C-H for its preparation) was heated with an open flame. A single clear phase was formed with the loss of H2O. After the hot melt remained quiet for a few moments, it was poured out into a crystallizing dish yielding 14.8 g of a crude solid product. This was recrystallized from 20 mL CH3CN, with care taken for an endothermic dissolution, and an exothermic crystallization. Both transitions must be done without haste. After filtration, the solids were washed with 2x20 mL hexane and air dried to constant weight. A yield of 12.93 g of N-(2-(2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)ethyl)phthalimide was obtained as electrostatic yellow crystals, with a mp of 109-111 °C. A sample recrystallized from IPA was white, with a mp of 110-111 °C. Anal. (C18H17NO4) C,H,N.

To a solution of 12.9 g N-(2-(2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)ethyl)phthalimide in 130 mL warm (35 °C) acetic acid which was being vigorously stirred, there was added a solution of 10 g iodine monochloride in 40 mL acetic acid. This was stirred for 1 h, while being held at about 30 °C. The reaction mixture was poured into 1500 mL H2O and extracted with 4x75 mL CH2Cl2. The extracts were pooled, washed once with 150 mL H2O containing 2.0 g sodium dithionite, and the solvent removed under vacuum to give 16.2 g of N-(2-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenyl)ethyl)phthalimide as yellow amber solids with a mp of 133-141 °C. This mp was improved by recrystallization from 75 mL CH3CN, yielding 12.2 g of a pale yellow solid with mp 149-151 °C. A small sample from a large quantity of IPA gives a white product melting at 155.5-157 °C.

A solution of 12.2 g N-(2-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenyl)ethyl)phthalimide in 150 mL hot IPA was treated with 6.0 mL of hydrazine hydrate, and the clear solution was heated on the steam bath. After a few minutes there was the generation of a white cottage cheese-like solid (1,4-dihydroxyphthalizine). The heating was continued for several additional h, the reaction mixture cooled, and the solids removed by filtration. These were washed with 2x10 mL EtOH, and the pooled filtrate and washes stripped of solvent under vacuum giving a residue which, when treated with aqueous hydrochloric acid, gave 3.43 g of voluminous white crystals. This, after recrystallization from 2 weights of H2O, filtering, washing first with IPA and then with Et2O, and air drying, gave 2.16 g 2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine hydrochloride (2C-I) as a white microcrystalline solid, with a mp of 246-247 °C. Anal. (C10H15ClINO2) C,H,N.

DOSAGE: 14 - 22 mg.

DURATION: 6 - 10 h.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS (with 0 mg) I was present at a group meeting, but was only an observer. With zero milligrams of 2C-I, I was able to get to a delightful plus 2.5 in about five minutes after I arrived at your place, and absorbed the ambience of the folks who had actually imbibed the material. My level lasted about four hours and came down at about the same time as did the others. There were no after-effects experienced except for a pleasant languor.

(with 15 mg) Comfortable onset. Most notable are the visuals, patterning like 2C-B (Persian carpet type), very colorful and active. Much more balanced emotional character, but still no feeling of insight, revelation, or progress toward the true meaning of the universe. And at 5 1/2 hours drop-off very abrupt, then gentle decline. I would like to investigate museum levels.

(with 16 mg) There was an immediate alert within minutes. As usual, it was only an awareness, then nothing happened for a while. In retrospect, I see some type of activity or awareness within 40 minutes, which then builds up over time. The peak was at 2 hours and seemed to maintain itself for a while. Near the peak, there was some hallucinogenic activity, though not a lot. The pictures in the dining room had color and pattern movement that was fairly detailed. Focusing on other areas, such as walls or the outside of the house, produced little activity, though I tried. There was certainly a lot of color enhancement. There was also that peculiar aspect of the visual field having darkened or shadowed areas. These darker areas seemed to shift around to some degree. That aspect seems to be similar to 2C-B. I don't think I was more than +2.5 at the peak. Coming down was uneventful. I was down within 6 hours. I had no problems driving home, nor were there any difficulties with sleep. There were no body problems with this material. I ate like a horse.

(with 16 mg) The 16 was a bit much, I realized, because my body was not sure of what to do with all the energy. Next time I'll try 14 or 15. However, my conversations were extremely clear and insightful. The degree of honesty was incredible. I was not afraid to say anything to anyone. Felt really good about myself. Very centered, in fact. A bit tired at day's end. Early bedtime.

(with 20 mg) I think there is slightly less than full immersion in the sensual, with this material, compared with 2C-B, but I suspect it's more a matter of getting used to the language of 2C-I and the feelings--getting tuned to a slightly different frequency, really-- rather than that the material is less sensual or less easy to use sensually. Just different frequency, and we are very, very used to 2C-B. Good on the body. Transition, for me, not as strongly dark as 2C-B. But it could certainly take a lot more exploring, if we were able to give the time (about 9 hours) to it. Next day: sleep excellent. Energy next day unusually good. Quite tired by evening.

EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY: The frequent comparisons between 2C-I and 2C-B stem, without doubt, from a bit of chemical suggestion. The two compounds have structures that are truly analogous, in technical terms. In one, there is a strategically located iodine atom, and in the other, an identically placed bromine atom. These are directly above and below one-another in the periodic table. And what is particularly maddening to the synthetic diddler, is that they cannot be lengthened, or shortened, or squooshed around in any way. You can't make a longer and narrower version of a bromine atom, as you can do with, say, a butyl group. You've got what you've got, like it or not. No subtle variations.

But, on the brighter side of the picture, you have a heavy atom here, and this atom is intrinsic to the central activity of the compound. So, these materials are naturals for radio-labelling experiments. 2C-I has been made radioactive with radio-iodine, but the most impressive findings have been made with the 3-carbon analog, DOI.

One quotation from an observer of a group experiment is enclosed; an experiment with zero milligrams being taken. This is a instructive observation of what has been called a contact high.

There is one Iodotweetio known. In Scrabble, would you challenge a word that had seven of its eleven letters as vowels? Especially if the vowels were, specifically, iooeeio? It sounds just a little like the noise coming out of Old McDonald's farm. But a Tweetio there is, namely, the 2-EtO-homologue of 2C-I. This is 2-ethoxy-4-iodo-5-methoxyphenethylamine, or 2CI-2ETO. The hydrochloride salt was a white, crystalline product with a melting point of 175-175.5 °C. The threshold level of activity was seen at an oral dose of 5 milligrams, and the generated effects were completely dispersed in a couple of hours. Most interestingly, larger doses, of up to 50 milligrams orally, seem to produce no more intense an effect, but simply to stretch out this threshold for an additional couple of hours. At no level that has been tried, has 2CI-2EtO produced even a plus-two response.

Where else can one go, from 2C-I? The iodine is the fourth, and the last of the so-called halogens, at the bottom of the classical periodic table. But, thanks to the miracles that have accompanied us into the nuclear age, there is a fifth halide now known, Astatine. All of its isotopes are radioactive, however, and it seems unlikely that there will ever be an entry (other than this one) for 2,5-dimethoxy-4-astatophenethylamine. What might be speculated as to its activity? Probably similar in potency to 2C-I, requiring maybe 10 or 20 milligrams. The duration would be dicey to measure, since the isotope with the longest known half-life is half decayed in about 8 hours, and the longest lived natural isotope (for those who insist on natural rather than man-made things) is half decayed in less than a minute. Two predictions would be pretty solid. You might have quite a job accumulating your 10 milligrams of Astatine, as the most that has so far been made at one time is only about 0.05 micrograms, approximately a millionth of the amount needed. And the second prediction? You would not survive the screaming radiation that would bombard you if you could get the needed 5 or 10 milligrams of radio-astatine onto that magic 4-position, and the resulting 2C-A into your tummy!
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ahhhh swim wishes sooo much to encounter his first love again his first trip was on 2ci and his second it is a magnificent chemical and i was wondering if its legal in amsterdam and if not are there any rc's legal in amsterdam still i think they are legal in japan if someone could back me up on this i just want to know where 2ci is legal if anywhere
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ahhhh swim wishes sooo much to encounter his first love again his first trip was on 2ci and his second it is a magnificent chemical and i was wondering if its legal in amsterdam and if not are there any rc's legal in amsterdam still i think they are legal in japan if someone could back me up on this i just want to know where 2ci is legal if anywhere
2C-I is legal in alot of places. just dont go to europe looking for a friendly environment... theyre smart fuckers that write the laws there and they caught on to that already... canada: legal USA: legal(sort of) many others are applicable... if you go to the uk though...

edit: to make this post useful here is a link to the legal vault on erowid.org http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci/2ci_law.shtml
2C-I is currently outlawed in Australia Belgium Denmark E.U. Finland France Germany Greece Ireland Italy Japan New Zealand Portugal and the UK
for more info on the EUs decision to ban 2C-I in all member states go here

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2C-I is legal in alot of places. just dont go to europe looking for a friendly environment... theyre smart fuckers that write the laws there and they caught on to that already... canada: legal USA: legal(sort of) many others are applicable... if you go to the uk though...

edit: to make this post useful here is a link to the legal vault on erowid.org http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci/2ci_law.shtml
2C-I is currently outlawed in Australia Belgium Denmark E.U. Finland France Germany Greece Ireland Italy Japan New Zealand Portugal and the UK
for more info on the EUs decision to ban 2C-I in all member states go here
also in the Netherlands
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all the RCs not scheduled in the US ar in a real grey area of the law. Thay are legal to obtain and posess, but using them for human consumption could very possibly be illegal under the Federal C.S. Analouge Act, since 2C-B and MDMA and a couple others are Schedule 1, and the 2C=x class at least are direct analogs of 2C-B and others are cousins to MDMA, meth and the like. I believe the UK has the toughest laws for RCs. They enected a blanket law a couple years ago banning 2C-B and any present and future drugs that are analogs of any currently scheduled drug. This effectively criminalized even posession of almost all RCs in the UK. A very sad state of affairs. As far as I know, most of the rest of Europe hasn't scheduled any RCs becides 2C-B and the few others the US has.
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Some of the information in the above post is pretty obvious, some is questionable, and some is incorrect. So called ‘research chemicals’ are a grey area in the US, but assumed to be getting a darker shade of grey every day. It is not just possible, but VERY probable that any ingestion of the compounds falls under the jurisdiction of the Analog Act in the US, the laws may change shortly to include possession etc. though direct placement of the compounds in question into Schedule I. Many European countries have either jointly or individually moved to control a number of tryptamine and phenethylamine compounds. More information on these items all about the Forum, Erowid, etc.

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Well, I did say "as far as I know" about the european laws, implying that that I might not have it right. I was trying to contribute to the overall topic of giscussion in the thread. Cut me a little slack, man. Anyway, I said "very possible" about RCs being illegal to consume under the Analouge Act because as of yet, I havent heard about anyone being individually procecuted for RCs under that law. Only the US based RC companies shut down in Opperation Web Tryp are in the process of being procecuted, and that is for selling RCs and implying that they were for human consumprion. The likelyhood of an individual choosing to ingest an RC getting charged under the analouge act is very small compared to the likelyhood of being charged for a drug that is scheduled right now. That may very well change, but for now...
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Re: PIHKAL: 2CI

This is my favorite part:

"You might have quite a job accumulating your 10 milligrams of Astatine, as the most that has so far been made at one time is only about 0.05 micrograms, approximately a millionth of the amount needed. And the second prediction? You would not survive the screaming radiation that would bombard you if you could get the needed 5 or 10 milligrams of radio-astatine onto that magic 4-position, and the resulting 2C-A into your tummy!"

If only the worlds of nuclear physics, synthetic chemistry and pharmocolgy could combine!
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Re: PIHKAL: 2CI

2-CAt would add new meaning to being burned-out the next day.
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