Effects - Very Strong Effects From Kratom?

[Man5onite]

Is SWIM the only one who gets really,really stoned from kratom?
Swim takes 12.5grams of super premium(whatever that is supposed to mean)
powdered thai kratom-leaves, and he gets warm, fuzzy, stumbly, extremely pleasurable feelings and nods in and out of dreams just by closing his eyes for a few seconds.
After 5 hours it begins to fade, and Swim takes another 12.5grams and the aforementioned effects are even stronger. Feels A LOT like morphine.

This is Swims comfort dose.
He only does this once a week to not get addicted.

He wonders if other swim gets effects that are very strong from kratom.

[Joe_Pinko]

It all depends upon dose. SWIM thinks 12.5g of decent kratom would be a very nice dose for SWIM too, and he would experience comparable effects. Half of that dose might be unnoticeable, while 25g might have SWIM vomitting.

[nate81]

yeah, SWIM does too. He says he gets nod-like effects from 10-15 grams. People seem to not take enough most of the time or take an inferior product, it's really a powerful plant.

[AceOvArts]

SWIM never got this way with Kratom, SWIM tends to become nauseus at higher doses, though SWIM does get mildly enjoyable effects he takes Kratom for the pain relieving qualities.

[Man5onite]

Originally Posted by AceOvArts

SWIM never got this way with Kratom, SWIM tends to become nauseus at higher doses, though SWIM does get mildly enjoyable effects he takes Kratom for the pain relieving qualities.

Yes, in the beginning SWIM got really nauseaus of about 10 grams of K, and got the itchies reeaally bad, so bad that the next day he noticed he had peeled of all the outer skin from his nose, looked like a freak...
BUT he got the really good effects mentioned in the first post, so he kept trying it once a week, but with hydroxyzine, this took care of all the itches and some of the nausea.
Now that he has used it for some time, once a week, the side effects have disappered and has got up to his "comfort zone" with 12.5grams, then wait 5-6 hours then another 12.5grams.
He no longer uses the hydroxyzine...
But Swim has strayed a bit away from the topic

[Spiral Out]

Swims firsts dose was alot of 15x which he got quite a buzz but didnt like as much as his 2nd and 3rd times. Swim used Bali and the effect was still strong but more enjoyable.

Dont take too much, swims exp. showed him that too much can suck.

[Man5onite]

Too much of K, often induces dysphoric mood in Swim.
And I think that is common when too much K have been ingested.
One have to build up dosages to what Swim has called, and still calls "the comfort zone".

[indeed]

SWIM gets fairly high at 10g or premium Bali, but SWIM has no tolerance as he only does once a week at most. SWIM weighs 200lbs and is in good shape, but isn't sure if that effects his dose and its effect. SWIM gets pretty high off 10g he gets to the point were his speech is very slow and is only slightly comprehensible, he also feels like doing very little and just lays around with the nods for a few hours. SWIM cant have a higher dose due to nausea