Injecting - 27 gauge and a 21 gauge syringe needles

[General Grievous]

swim got his hands on a couple syringes in his drs exam room. he grabbed one that was 27 guage 1cc, and one 21g thats 3cc..

swims planning on slamming some powder. if swim wants to shoot .2g of stuff which needle should he use and how much sterile water should be used in cc measurements?

also, swim feels more scared about putting water in his veins then coke lol

[Fight Club]

First off, I hope the syringes SWIY grabbed are new ones. Assuming they are, the 27g 1cc would be the best to use.

You can mix .2 g of cocaine in about 50 units (.5 cc) of unpreserved sterile saline that is available in the eye care section at the pharmacy.

As an aside - NIK would not slam .2 grams if he were an IV coke noob. If it's very pure, that might be too much to handle.

If you like it, you are going to want to do it again and again. If you keep using the same needle, you will tear up your veins. Be safe. Have fun.

FC

[vtheree]

SWIM would also use the 27 g 1cc syringe. It's the perfect size for the job. However, SWIM normally uses between 60 and 80 units for each injection. This should leave you with roughly about 40 units after the cocaine solution is cooked. Let the syringe sit for a minute after it is cooked. If you try to inject right away and pierce your vein with the solution still hot, it can be incredibly painful. Almost like burning you veins, because the waters so hot, if you will. SWIMs done it before, it's incredibly uncomfortable.

[General Grievous]

ok swim had some trouble...first using the 1cc 27 guage wqasnt soaking up the stuff...in the spoon even afte rmixing it it still had a pile of the pure swim guesses...then the 1cc syringe stopped working and it wasnt pulling anything in...when let go the plunger sank back down...he said fuck it and grabbed the 3cc 21 guage...he hit right away and felt nice...not much what he expected..guess he needed more. the 27 guage clogged with residue...swim ended up with about just over a centimeter in the syringe...he shot it with success...but got no rush, might be because he was on bars too...regardless..no rush? what he do wrong? it was much easier with the 21 guage tho...input would be appreciated.. besides this was just a dry run at mainlining with some old fashioned white...they are trying to get their hands this weekend on some H...swim will be back to let yall know how it went...but moral of the story..the 27 guage was horrible...

[vtheree]

Sounds like the cocaine wasn't very clean. Did SWIM use any cotton to filter out anything SWIM didn't want in his veins? If not this could be the reason SWIMs syringe ended up getting clogged.

[General Grievous]

Originally Posted by vtheree

Sounds like the cocaine wasn't very clean. Did SWIM use any cotton to filter out anything SWIM didn't want in his veins? If not this could be the reason SWIMs syringe ended up getting clogged.

swim was advised by members not to use cotton...oh well he ended up having to put it into a shot glass because he couldnt syringe it out of a deep spoon..no matter thoughit was just practice for the real stuff (ice/h or w/e)

[Jasim]

27 gauge is a very fine needle, yea swiy is gonna have problems with it clogging. Swim would use at most a 21 gauge needle.

Swim is a little confused with what swiy said regarding what swiy obtained. Most syringes and needles are separate. The needle is measured in gauge and the syringe is measured in cc. If they were clean and unused, swim would think they would all be in individual packets. Or at least swiy could swap the the needles and use a 21 gauge, with 1cc syringe.

[General Grievous]

Originally Posted by Jasim

27 gauge is a very fine needle, yea swiy is gonna have problems with it clogging. Swim would use at most a 21 gauge needle.

Swim is a little confused with what swiy said regarding what swiy obtained. Most syringes and needles are separate. The needle is measured in gauge and the syringe is measured in cc. If they were clean and unused, swim would think they would all be in individual packets. Or at least swiy could swap the the needles and use a 21 gauge, with 1cc syringe.

thanks for the reply, swim knew swim was right...yep swim grabbed disposable syringes from the drawer. of course theres sepereated packaged needles...but these were all in one so he grabbed those...at first he grabbed the 27 cuz it was the first he saw...but since he knows about guages and what not..he also grabbed the 21g..good thing! could swiy give swim some tips on how to draw the junk from the spoon/bowl? he had to have his homegrl tilt a shot glass to pull with the 21guage..it was ridiculous...it looks so easy in movies lol? but nevertheless swim

through .2g into the spoon and had to keep adding ccs of water because it wasnt enough to dissolve it...but most likely because it was the cut...although this stuff is the best i can get..swim did notice that clogging wasnt good..but realized it was cuz the guage was so thin! gad hes smart lol...anyway..swim was coming off xanax and liquor he wanted a quick fix...and since he knows how to stick..he had NO PROBLEM on himself lol...he was so proud hahah first shot and swim scored...anyway all swim felt was all of a sudden at ease and happy..but no rush? what did swim do wrong or what could he have done? because this coke is fire so he dont know whats up...nevertheless...swim went with the suggestions to use the 27 guage..mistake! as it gave him stress ya know hes doing the chem for the first time but w/e....swim was dissapointed he didnt get the rush =(

[vtheree]

Originally Posted by General Grievous

through .2g into the spoon and had to keep adding ccs of water because it wasnt enough to dissolve it...but most likely because it was the cut...although this stuff is the best i can get..swim did notice that clogging wasnt good..but realized it was cuz the guage was so thin! gad hes smart lol...anyway..swim was coming off xanax and liquor he wanted a quick fix...and since he knows how to stick..he had NO PROBLEM on himself lol...he was so proud hahah first shot and swim scored...anyway all swim felt was all of a sudden at ease and happy..but no rush? what did swim do wrong or what could he have done? because this coke is fire so he dont know whats up...nevertheless...swim went with the suggestions to use the 27 guage..mistake! as it gave him stress ya know hes doing the chem for the first time but w/e....swim was dissapointed he didnt get the rush =(

SWIY isn't being very clear, at one point SWIY says the cocaine wouldn't dissolve because of the quality, and yet further into the paragraph SWIY says the cocaine is fire. Assuming you aren't talking about to different situations, SWIM would say there was no rush because the quality of the cocaine is very low. If SWIY did inject high quality cocaine, and didn't get a rush, the only explanation SWIM could think of is the needle fell out of the vein while SWIY was injecting the solution. SWIM advises to check if SWIY is still in SWIYs vein by pulling back on the plunger when SWIY has injected about half of the solution. If SWIY sees the solution get darker, or more blood shoot in, SWIY is still in SWIYs vein. SWIY isn't being very clear so SWIM can't really give SWIY an explanation of why there was no rush except for the two SWIM has already explained.

[General Grievous]

Originally Posted by vtheree

SWIY isn't being very clear, at one point SWIY says the cocaine wouldn't dissolve because of the quality, and yet further into the paragraph SWIY says the cocaine is fire. Assuming you aren't talking about to different situations, SWIM would say there was no rush because the quality of the cocaine is very low. If SWIY did inject high quality cocaine, and didn't get a rush, the only explanation SWIM could think of is the needle fell out of the vein while SWIY was injecting the solution. SWIM advises to check if SWIY is still in SWIYs vein by pulling back on the plunger when SWIY has injected about half of the solution. If SWIY sees the solution get darker, or more blood shoot in, SWIY is still in SWIYs vein. SWIY isn't being very clear so SWIM can't really give SWIY an explanation of why there was no rush except for the two SWIM has already explained.

k some other poster suggested it mightve been cut...but what coke isnt. but swim knows his coke and this shit is the best around...of course everythings cut..but it is fire...the only theory swim has is that he was on xanax bars and alcohol which lessed the effects...but regardless that was just a practice slam for swim.. swim knows how to use needles hes certified in phlebotomy...he knows what vein to hit and he hit it of course and felt it as a slight buzz...he used more than .2g actually and had to keep adding water because in the puddle the white stuff was there swim thought it was suppose to disolve completly into the water? so he though he needed more sterile water..hes baffled by this because he did everything right...why no rush? mightve been the fact he was drunk and barred out possibly who knows..anyway swim knows snorting it is better...he was just practicing for when the real stuff comes around...but still why no rush? swima ctually put .3g in it lol

[vtheree]

Originally Posted by General Grievous

k some other poster suggested it mightve been cut...but what coke isnt. but swim knows his coke and this shit is the best around...of course everythings cut..but it is fire...the only theory swim has is that he was on xanax bars and alcohol which lessed the effects...but regardless that was just a practice slam for swim.. swim knows how to use needles hes certified in phlebotomy...he knows what vein to hit and he hit it of course and felt it as a slight buzz...he used more than .2g actually and had to keep adding water because in the puddle the white stuff was there swim thought it was suppose to disolve completly into the water? so he though he needed more sterile water..hes baffled by this because he did everything right...why no rush? mightve been the fact he was drunk and barred out possibly who knows..anyway swim knows snorting it is better...he was just practicing for when the real stuff comes around...but still why no rush? swima ctually put .3g in it lol

SWIM overlooked the part about the xanax. The xanax could have very well "nullified" the effects of the cocaine.

What does SWIY mean by snorthing it is better? Injection is probably the most efficient way to get the most out of the cocaine, obviously, because it goes directly into your blood stream. Does SWIY mean safer or more enjoyable? SWIM thinks it's really just personal preference. SWIM would rather boot his cocaine because SWIM is always looking for a rush, so in SWIMs mind injection is the better route.

[Spare Chaynge]

dude no amount of xanax will lesson the effects of shooting cocaine. It is extremely powerful. especially .3g. The first time swim did it he did litteraly some residue left over on his girfriends spoon.. His exact reaction was "woah, woah, woah.... wow this shit is intense.


Swim was on at least 4mg of alprazolam when he did it to.

[Jasim]

Swim would figure out how to purify the coke a bit more. This should be fairly easy. It is with crack anyway.

Also, swiy could suck up the coke with only the syringe, then place the needle on it afterwards. Contrary to popular belief, swiy doesn't have to worry about air being in the needle/syringe. If swiy does this though, make sure to filter it somehow beforehand. This doesn't prevent clogging, just makes it much less likely since swiy is only going through the needle once.

Could also try slightly warming the syringe somehow before using it. This would help the coke stay in solution.

[BlondieUK]

Okay, rough guide.

Add 1 full ml to Swiy's spoon

Cook to a boil. Swiy should now have around 70-80 units

Add coke. Heat gently. Don't boil this time, just heat enough to dissolve your coke.

Most should be dissolved, anything left over is filler and junk.

Attatch filter to needle. Swim normally does this by snipping the end from a diy cigarette filter, the small ones, and placing this on the end of swim's needle. The smaller the filter the better, because it will absorb less of the precious medicine. As long as it's covering the tip of the needle and you're careful, it should be fine.

Tie off. Spend a couple of minutes pumping swiy's arm, this will also give time for the solution to cool.

Find vein.

Remove filter, insert needle. This takes practise as your muscles/veins move when you let go of the tie-off, so be aware.

When swiy finds a vein you will get a "register".. that is a very small amount of blood will enter the barrel. (not the case if you're not using an automatic needle.. in this case you will need to pull back on the plunger to register)

When swiy is sure, let go of the tie-off, keep the needle STEADY when you do this, it's usually at this point that people lost the vein since they sink back into the skin, muscles and veins move, therefore swim needs to concentrate.

Now swim usually rests his hand against his arm to minimise movement.. "hovering" makes for all sorts of mistakes. You need to be as stable as possible.

Slowly press the plunger down.. Swiy should have around 70-80 units of solution, so when swiy reaches about 30-40 mark, stop. Swiy should be feeling the rush already. With Swiy's arm/hand/needle rested and comfortable, very gently pull back on the plunger. Just the smallest bit. Be very careful not to move out of the vein at this point.

Swiy should see more dark blood entering the syringe. Gentle press the plunger back, all the way down.

Now slowly remove the needle at the same angle as it was inserted and put a little pressure on the area with swiy's other hand, wipe it off with an alcohol swab if possible.

Rush like a mother.


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Swim thinks that either swim's coke was unpure, or, needed to be dissolved using an acidic agent (lemon juice).. this can be the case sometimes, swim has heard, although swim hasn't had that problem personally..

The other thing of course, is that swim may have gone through the vein, missed the vein, or any number of things. Believe swim when he says it's very easy to do, even experienced users do it once in a while, the trick is to know when swiy thinks he's moved out, before he tries to shoot. Practise!

Swim should ask others about their methods if possible, if not just work with very small amounts until swiy finds a good way of dissolving most of the solution.

Please let swiu know how swiy does =)

N.B

Shooting coke is beyond addictive.. *mandatory warning*

[Jasim]

Originally Posted by BlondieUK

Swim thinks that either swim's coke was unpure, or, needed to be dissolved using an acidic agent (lemon juice).. this can be the case sometimes, swim has heard, although swim hasn't had that problem personally..

Be very careful if any swiy acidifies. I've read reports of people doing this over a period of time and eating away at the veins in their arms. Same thing with temperature. Swiy can do a lot of damage if swiy isn't careful.

[BlondieUK]

Originally Posted by Jasim

Be very careful if any swiy acidifies. I've read reports of people doing this over a period of time and eating away at the veins in their arms. Same thing with temperature. Swiy can do a lot of damage if swiy isn't careful.

Swim forgot to note that.

Use the smallest amount of acid possible, as soon as it's dissolved do not add more, or as Jasim says, it can eat away at veins etc. It's nothing to worry about once or twice, but an extensive habit with this method won't do you any good.

[BumpBump]

swim is told not to cook coke, and always use a filter

[Fight Club]

One gram of "pure" coke will dissolve fully and easily in 1 cc of water or saline. If SWIY had to keep adding water to .3g and your syringe still clogged, you have insoluable cuts in your coke. If you didn't get an amazing rush from .3 g, you have an awful lot of insoluable cuts in your coke (READ: NOT fire coke).

If it's the best SWIY can get, try to purify it by either rocking it up, and then re-acidifying the freebase / crack with vinegar or ascorbic acid, or try cleaning it up with acetone using the LeJunk method. Always filter the end product.

Good luck. Be safe.

FC