USA - Largest Meth Seizure in Border Patrol History

[old hippie 56]

Valley agents conduct largest meth seizure in Border Patrol history
Ana Ley
The Monitor

FALFURRIAS — U.S. Border Patrol agents at the Falfurrias checkpoint conducted the biggest methamphetamine seizure in the agency's history last week, officials said.

The massive 312-pound stash is larger than the combined total of every meth seizure for the agency's Rio Grande Valley Sector last year, said Border Patrol spokesman John Lopez. Agents in the Valley sector seized about 220 pounds of meth in 2008.

A Border Patrol dog sniffed out the drugs hidden within a truckload of grapefruit on Jan. 31. The tractor-trailer's driver and passenger, who could not be immediately identified Friday evening, are in the custody of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. Both are U.S. citizens.

The drugs have an estimated street value of $10 million, or about $32,000 per pound.

[Milk man]

Originally Posted by old hippie 56

Valley agents conduct largest meth seizure in Border Patrol history
Ana Ley
The Monitor

FALFURRIAS — U.S. Border Patrol agents at the Falfurrias checkpoint conducted the biggest methamphetamine seizure in the agency's history last week, officials said.

The massive 312-pound stash is larger than the combined total of every meth seizure for the agency's Rio Grande Valley Sector last year, said Border Patrol spokesman John Lopez. Agents in the Valley sector seized about 220 pounds of meth in 2008.

A Border Patrol dog sniffed out the drugs hidden within a truckload of grapefruit on Jan. 31. The tractor-trailer's driver and passenger, who could not be immediately identified Friday evening, are in the custody of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. Both are U.S. citizens.

The drugs have an estimated street value of $10 million, or about $32,000 per pound.

This is why you don't put all of your eggs in one basket.

[beentheredonethatagain]

Originally Posted by Milk man

This is why you don't put all of your eggs in one basket.

Don't think for one little second that this is all of their "eggs", for they plan on getting one caught so as the others have a better chance of getting thru.

it just is a game of probality, it may be a very large nab but , they have more not getting caught than they do getting busted. a numbers game.

[scimor]

Good. SWIM has seen the effects of that garbage. Get rid of it! And put those fuckers in jail for good!

[beentheredonethatagain]

Originally Posted by scimor

Good. SWIM has seen the effects of that garbage. Get rid of it! And put those fuckers in jail for good!

wait a tick , this is a drug forum, we dont think its the governments job to deside on what people can put into their own bodies, just as we dont think we should be placed in a cage for getting happy with what ever gets us there.

what you view as garbage I or others here may view as treasure, please do reply like you are above the rest of us here.

thank and welcome to the only forum of its kind, Drugs-Forum. tell your friends to check us out.

beentheredonethatagain

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[julian]

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

wait a tick , this is a drug forum, we dont think its the governments job to deside on what people can put into their own bodies, just as we dont think we should be placed in a cage for getting happy with what ever gets us there.

Wait a tick, this is a drug forum, we do not tell other people how to think. Just because someone is a member of DF does not mean they hold all the same values as other members. Differences between us should be respected and encouraged. I was not planning on posting in this thread but I found your post unnecessarily intimidating.

You could have easily started a debate with scimor regarding the legal status of trafficking methamphetamine. Instead you chose to belittle a fellow member by implying that he should change his values to conform to your own.

[scimor]

julian, thanks for sticking up for me, I apologize for my violent outburst. I just have seen lives ruined by meth and I don't believe that people trafficking in large amounts are doing it for any ideal other than the almighty dollar. Greed drives them, not a desire to expand consciousness or make a statement, and to hell with those who are harmed by their actions. Unfortunatly, society's only real tool to deal with this kind of behaivor is jail. I just cannot defend these people...

[YesMe]

Originally Posted by scimor

julian, thanks for sticking up for me, I apologize for my violent outburst. I just have seen lives ruined by meth and I don't believe that people trafficking in large amounts are doing it for any ideal other than the almighty dollar. Greed drives them, not a desire to expand consciousness or make a statement, and to hell with those who are harmed by their actions. Unfortunatly, society's only real tool to deal with this kind of behaivor is jail. I just cannot defend these people...

I too have seen lives ruined by it but SWIM had a personal experience with it and it brought a lot of helpful attributes during a very difficult time. Some people react poorly with certain drugs while others have a good hold on the reigns. SWIM has seen people drop out of school and get booted out of their homes from pot use alone.. Hey, at least you owned up to your comment and are a lot more adult about it than SWIM has seen on other forums.

[Future_Narc_Officer]

Originally Posted by old hippie 56

The drugs have an estimated street value of $10 million, or about $32,000 per pound.

It is absolutely amazing to me the profit that can be made on a drug that is so easy and cheap to manufacture. Meth is definitely a horrible drug. Arguably the worst of them all.

[Alfa]

Originally Posted by scimor

Good. SWIM has seen the effects of that garbage. Get rid of it! And put those fuckers in jail for good!

Confiscations do not keep drugs of the street. They increase production. They raise prices and therefore indirectly increases criminality. Higher prices & higher risks attract those people that can handle that.

There's no getting rid of. There is demand and large demand always gets supply. There is nothing law enforcement can do about it. Nothing at all.

Originally Posted by Future_Narc_Officer

It is absolutely amazing to me the profit that can be made on a drug that is so easy and cheap to manufacture. Meth is definitely a horrible drug. Arguably the worst of them all.

I wouldn't call meth the most horrible drug. FUBAR would choose meth over datura, heroin or glue huffing, anytime.

Care for some Jimson weed?

[Woodman]

This is a joke, right?


...I mean the idea that US boarder patrol agents are stroking their dicks over finding 312 pounds of meth is laughable.

That's not even a quarter-of-a-ton, for cryin' out fuckin' loud.

If they're shipping coke by the ton, you know damned well that they're also shipping meth by the ton; ... so what's 312 pounds?

You've gotta be fucking kidding me!

[SmokeRings]

People make drugs for profit. Who is to say 312 pounds is unacceptable of any kind of drug?
Whilst SWIM will agree this is an open forum, SWIM is going to stick up for beentheredonethatagain as far as how scimor flamed a particular drug. Not agreeing with how they went about it, but SWIm see's their point.
Scimor, while many people get strung out on meth, there are also plenty strung out on countless other drugs, legal or illegal. It's not really fair to bash meth.
SWIM is a very successful person, owns their own home, pays their taxes, goes to work every day and does meth occassionally? Is SWIM a horrible person? Nope.
There are PLENTY of functioning people on drugs that one might consider "trash" or whatever. All drugs, no matter what can ruin lives, blame the people, not the drug.

[scimor]

Scimor, while many people get strung out on meth, there are also plenty strung out on countless other drugs, legal or illegal. It's not really fair to bash meth.
SWIM is a very successful person, owns their own home, pays their taxes, goes to work every day and does meth occassionally? Is SWIM a horrible person? Nope.
There are PLENTY of functioning people on drugs that one might consider "trash" or whatever. All drugs, no matter what can ruin lives, blame the people, not the drug.

I agree and I accept that I was wrong to post a blanket statement like that. It just goes to show the intricate and complicated emotions and feelings associated with drug use and why its such a touchy subject.
Imagine an "occasional" user who has died.
Imagine an "occasional" user who has been arrested.
...who has lost their family...
...etc...

It's perfectly understandable for a person who has been hurt by drug use by someone else, no matter how insignificant an amount, to be angry. And not just at that person, though they are the sole source and cause.

Angry people often lash out at anybody and anything they can remotly blame for their hurt, sometimes missing entirely the true cause.

Thoughts?

[SmokeRings]

Scrimor, SWIM apologizes, but isn't exactly sure what you mean.

[scimor]

Scrimor, SWIM apologizes, but isn't exactly sure what you mean.

Lately I've been trying to see the other side, I've been living (mostly) drug-free for over 13 months now, trying to fully understand the non-drug taking side. I must admit that I am not convinced.

This thread is going astray. I guess I'm not sure what I mean either.

I do know that as much as some SWIM's are for drug use, other SWIM's are just as against and even more strongly.

Is it possible to weigh the bad against the good? Probably not objectively. It's different for everyone.

As for the original point, in MY experience, the damage caused my meth FAR outweighs any benefit.

Sometimes its hard to make sense, even to myself...

[SmokeRings]

scimor -
Ok, totally get you now. SWIM has a somewhat controversial view of drug use and she knows it.
Drugs are serious business, espeically meth, heroin, crack, any of the more widely known, heavily abused, life changing, body changing, life ruining drugs. SWIM is not in denial that indeed, proceeding with caution is key.
SWIM also believes this is only so because people allow themselves to become so heavily addicted. SWIM is a firm believer in mind over matter. SWIM feels that anyone is able to control their wants and desires, but they have to WANT to. The world is full of people who have mental issues or were abused either sexually, mentally or both, people who have been poor, single parent family, taken away because of druggie parents, everyone has a story. Life is dysfunction, those who say they have perfect lives are only fooling themselves, life is rough.
SWIM feels that most hard core addicts, the ones you speak of, generally blame their past and use to numb the pain instead of seeking help to rid themselves of those demons.
SWIM used to blame her past for her irresponsible behaviors and sought help and actually worked through it, because she wanted to. It was also not a quick fix, SWIM has sought help on and off for 20 years. Never for the actual use, but the demons inside from her past that gave her a reason to abuse them. SWIM is not saying that she believes that everyone can, some are just predispositioned to destroy their lives, to stay an addict forever, it's much easier.
SWIM just thinks that a large majority of them use it as a permanent excuse to be a fuck up. To SWIM, every single person on this earth has the capability of control, but instead of just admitting they don't give a shit, they fuck up and fall back to the "I was abused, you don't know how it feels!" (or whatever issue they have) SWIM has been physically abused, abandoned by her mother at 12 years old, had repeated failed relationships, all kinds of issues that most would give her a free pass to be a total junkie. SWIM did, for a long time, use it all as a crutch and really fucked some things up when she was younger, SWIM finally realized that it was an easy way out, a slow suicide of sorts.
As said, she knows her views on this are radical and possibly a pipe dream to most. But thinks everyone can, if they try hard enough, really deal with their shit, whatever it is that makes them go back (because it's never JUST the drug, there's always an underlying issue) that they can overcome.
The one's you speak of, just don't want to. Instead of putting the gun to their heads and just ending it swifty, they slowly do it through drugs, it's sad, but true.
SWIM knows most think this is just ridiculous, and that is fine, she realizes that her take is VERY out there, but it certainly keeps her centered!
She's had her share of slip ups, bad decisions, all of it, she hasn't come out unscathed, but loves herself and her friends and family too much to make them go through that. SWIM doesn't want to die, she just chooses to alter her mind, sometimes with meth.
Moderation, knowing when to say when, being responsible and taking care of your bills, going to work, your family comes first, then you can play. You can't afford to play, get off the field. It really can be that simple, but you have to believe it and work at it, it doesn't just happen.
Personal responsibility has gone out the window. SWIM chooses to believe that people can change, people can use and still be a functioning memeber of society. She knows those who agree with her are a very small percentage, and isn't going to try and preach her beliefs and change the mind of non-users or heavy users alike, that's fine. It simply her personal belief!

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Made a good point on your views of addiction

[scimor]

Smokie, SWIM agrees with SWIY, mostly. SWIY's mature, responsible (where responsibility is defined as the willingness and ability to assume full source and cause for all positive and negative actions in one's life) approach is commendable aside from the trials and tribulations it took to evolve.

You know probably the majority of SWIMs have that sensibility innately, never being recklessly destructive like SWIY (and SWIM).

Anybody can have and do whatever they can imagine, and whatever they imagine, is what they are, have, and do.

I hope the stream of consciousness approach to the thread isn't too irritating, SWIM enjoys its thought-provoking nature.