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Old 11-02-2009, 12:47
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Amphetamines + Opiates

Could it be the perfect drug combo? Meth and heroin or methadone really go well together. The only side effect swim experienced was extreme dry mouth.
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Old 11-02-2009, 13:06
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

swim wishes that he could obtain ice but in the u.k nobody cooks. Pseudoeph' is available everywhere too with absolutely no restrictions on age or quantity. Just the u.k didn't have that mid-American rural thing that sparked off meth use. Plus crack and heroin together is the in thing over here. Swim made some ice from amphet'sulphate in 2005 and smoked that on top of 90ml of Methadone- ha- meth and meth!!! Amphetamine sulphate is available over in the u.k but just no meth. weird. I just don't know why either. Swim also injected the ice and some lady H. Boy was that an explosion of dopamine and endorphins all in one hit. And, unlike a snowball the meth dont wear off like the crack. It kinda compliments the Heroin. U.K heroin is one of the purest in the western world aswell so if you cook the brown up properly and the meth it' damn nice!!

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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

SWIM was just wondering the same thing seeing as he just dosed on poppy tea & adderall. The effects of the poppy tea seem less pronounced thus far and the adderall just seems less hyper but the euphoria of both is still present.

SWIM read somewhere that taking a speedball (heroin or other opiates in combination with coke) increases the amount of opiate receptors in the brain caused by the reaction between cocaine and opiates, thus lowering the effect of the opiates. So the same could be said for adderall + opiates, but SWIM is not positive.

SWIM would like to know from others' experiences whether or not amphetamines and opiates in combination is really worth it.
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Old 15-02-2009, 07:14
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

swim just took. 60 mg Oxycodone CWE'd (six 10/660 percocets) + 40 mg Methylphenidate (two insufflated ritalin hcl).

damn.
talk about euphoria. he's been hitting a packed bowl in a glass piece off an on since around 30 mins in . . . chain smoking the whole time haha (cigs).
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Old 17-02-2009, 21:27
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

Swim takes the oxymophone/opana and hated it at first,because she was so tired. she got a script for adderall and now it balances out quite nicely.
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

SWIM took 15 mg of oxycodone orally, drank a light beer, and snorted ritalin (10 mgs so far). feelin good! SWIM would have to say, perfection at its greatest.
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

Swim has done this a few times with his prescriptions. Swim has a very low tolerance for amphetamines so he took 20mg of adderall and about 30 to 60mg of roxycodone. It has a very very nice euphoric feel but at the same time your kind of a mess. The jitteryness of the two pills had swims heart beating really fast. Swim would say its been worth it, but swim doesnt really like adderall due to it increasing swims heartbeat.
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

Swim has been snorting meth and smoking black tar H all day. Swim is wondering if it is easy to OD from this combo if not careful? Or since swim is smoking the H is an OD not likely to happen. Swim is kinda afraid of his heart stopping but it's most likely just psychological.
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Old 20-08-2010, 21:02
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

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Swim has been snorting meth and smoking black tar H all day. Swim is wondering if it is easy to OD from this combo if not careful? Or since swim is smoking the H is an OD not likely to happen. Swim is kinda afraid of his heart stopping but it's most likely just psychological.
No it is not psychological, it is very real.
Mixing amphetamines and opiates is a VERY VERY bad idea, its like asking for death. Reason being is that amphetamines are uppers, and opiates are downers, upper speed up ur heart, and downers slow it down. So when u have uppers and downers competeing and fighting for power over ur heart, u are in a HUGE risk of a heart attack. This is especially when taking the more powerful opites like heroin and oxymorphone. PLEASE take this into concideration, and next time u want to speedball (mixing uppers and downers), even though it can be extremely euphoric, really think about the impact its having on your heart.

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Old 21-08-2010, 03:39
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

Thank you very very very much
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Old 21-08-2010, 14:24
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

Your very welcome, be a little more careful from now on
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

Once when SWIM snorted sum' good base amph and after few hours smoked sum fentanyl,he was sober(because of speed) and after few hours he puked and went to home to get some sleep but speed kept him awake,so he joined his friends again to smoke some pot,and after that he was just stoned and bit speedy. Maybe the fentanyl was some light grade stuff or he did'nt smoke enough to get that sweet rush.
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Old 27-08-2010, 10:04
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

SWIM was doing coke all Tuesday then some time around when Oprah aired, she snorted 60mg of Oxys a few mins after her last coke rail. It was her first time combining drugs, but they just felt like 2 totally separate things. Not synergistic at all. Yet not a bad mix either. At least she didn't feel any health dangers.
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

SWIM remembers his first speedball.. 400mg Amp sulphate + 20g oxycodone, mixed up and divided into around 3 fat lines. SWIM did a line every hour or so, accompanied by many bowls of dank weed. SWIM had a low tolerance to OC so the high was super intense. SWIM would nod off then reawaken to clenching jaws and intense euphoric rushes, then nod off again. Pure bliss.
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

SWIM is posting for the first time! SWIM has been too chicken to register, but felt like it was rude to read and not participate! This topic is particularly close to SWIMS heart as SWIM has been prescribed 2, 80 mg oxycontin, 5, 15 mg oxycodone, 2, 20mg adderoll and 2, 70 mg Vyvanse per day. Along with 3 xanax, 1 Ambien and some other random muscle relaxers.
SWIM sees comments about the danger of mixing Ampethamine with Opiates and wonders why then would the all knowing Dr. prescribe such a combination?
In case of confusion, the Adderoll is dextroamphetamine, and Vyvanse is same meds basically, but has a 3 cycle time release which SWIM especially likes for the smoothing out that seems to be the 1 negative of the adderoll. When SWIM started the adderoll it would keep her up and gave SWIM the tense jaw, hard to swallow, dry mouth along with amazing energy. Within 1 week that was long gone. SWIM has since gotten scripts increased and is now on a level dose. SWIM wonders if the ADD meds don't actually have much of a chance to work as they "should" because of the opiates making SWIM very hyper and well, happy! Opiates have worked as an anti depressant for years, but the introduction of the amphetamine made SWIM want to scream from the top of the mountains that the most fabulous medication in the world was at SWIMS disposal!
SWIMS not sure if this is the type of post that is considered useful or not, but she will continue to read others posts to get the hang of it!
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

Is it possible that the 'upps' of meth cancels out the 'down' effects of 'H' and lowers the euphoria one gets from 'H' alone.

Swim has premixed his meth n herion in 1:10, he feels no increase in euphoria n is shocked that it might actually decrease its effects.

Anyone with experience of meth+heroin pls help.

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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

Speed and opaites don't mix well for swim. The speed overpowers the opiates and ruins the high. The only time it's good is if you take a tiny bit of speed when you're nodding real hard. It keeps you awake but you don't really feel the effects of the speed.

Coke and opiates is a differnet story if you combine them right. You can't do a shit load of coke and take a few percocets and expect to find the synergy. They have to be mix together at the same time, preferably iv, and in the right dose to compliment each other. Not too much of either one.
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

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SWIM is posting for the first time! SWIM has been too chicken to register, but felt like it was rude to read and not participate! This topic is particularly close to SWIMS heart as SWIM has been prescribed 2, 80 mg oxycontin, 5, 15 mg oxycodone, 2, 20mg adderoll and 2, 70 mg Vyvanse per day. Along with 3 xanax, 1 Ambien and some other random muscle relaxers.
SWIM sees comments about the danger of mixing Ampethamine with Opiates and wonders why then would the all knowing Dr. prescribe such a combination?
Does SWIY have legitimate reasons for taking all these drugs? I.e., does she have severe chronic pain, severe ADHD, severe anxiety and amnesia?

If not, she should probably see a real doctor, rather than someone in the business of supplying addicts with whatever controlled substances for which they feign need. Someone who prescribes all of these together doesn't care about a patient's health. The Adderall and Vyvanse are redundant. The ER/IR oxycodone combination isn't redundant if and only if swiy has severe chronic pain with breakthroughs requiring extra analgesia. Alprazolam in any dosage (you didn't say) shouldn't be taken regularly, and zolpidem shouldn't be taken for more than a few weeks at a time. The dangers of combining these aside, swiy is risking multiple addictions that will get very ugly once swiy's prescriber is inevitably busted.
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

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No it is not psychological, it is very real.
Mixing amphetamines and opiates is a VERY VERY bad idea, its like asking for death. Reason being is that amphetamines are uppers, and opiates are downers, upper speed up ur heart, and downers slow it down. So when u have uppers and downers competeing and fighting for power over ur heart, u are in a HUGE risk of a heart attack. This is especially when taking the more powerful opites like heroin and oxymorphone. PLEASE take this into concideration, and next time u want to speedball (mixing uppers and downers), even though it can be extremely euphoric, really think about the impact its having on your heart.
i generally disagree with this statement...mixing stimulants with opiates is not so dangerous (but i am not saying that it is without dangerous)...what is really dangerous is mixing stimulants with with other dwoner drugs such as barbiturates or benzodiazepams....now thos combinations can be extremely dangerous....even more dangerous is mixing downers because of the synergistic effects...
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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

About a month ago, Swim visited a city in the midwest to visit a friend, called dodgey bastard or DB, who can get large pieces of black tar H for a very reasonable fee, so two pieces were obtained. After preparation and administration, SWIM enjoyed the high, played the radio and sat talking to DB about all manner of things as is the usual custom. Soon DB's phone rings, and DB invites over another person, who looked kind of like Milton from Office space, and therefore will be called Milton.

Milton is a small time cook, making enough for Milton and to sell to a very very limited number of people. Milton's product is a red tinged powder that is very potent, some of the strongest SWIM has tried. Milton brought over 5 papers of the "red meanie" to sell to someone else DB knew. The person never ended up showing up. After talking with Milton a bit, Milton told SWIM that milton was low on a key ingredient and offered a paper for a new box of the ingredient, then 0.5 g once it was ready. After a thorough 2 second deliberation, SWIM agreed.

Cutting to the chase...SWIM got the ingredient, and Milton made good, sort of. Milton's paper was pretty skimpy. To be safe, SWIM mixed only half the paper with about 50 units of h20 (melted almost immediately) and did it up. Keeping in mind that SWIM was comfortably numb to the point of nodding a little, the "red meanie" cut straight through the nods and lethargy, getting a strong taste on the back of the tongue, and noticing color changes, and just feeling that build up of strength and energy as it spreads throughout the body. Normally tweak can make SWIM twitchy and unbearably talkative, but the H balanced that out nicely. SWIM had an increase in energy and euphoria, but managed to stay somewhat mellow and actually listen to a conversation due to the brown.

SWIM did the rest of the "red meanie" then the black tar about 7 hours later. This is where the negatives start to kick in. Heart beat was uncomfortably fast and strong, felt exhausted but not sleepy. H had almost no sedating effect. To sum up, SWIM suggests if anyone were to try both, use low doses, maybe 1/3 of your normal dose for each. Even this may be too much, and if someone else has a better idea of what dose to use, feel free to disagree with SWIM. Also, SWIM's good feelings occured when the opiate high had already been established for about an hour, then added the speed. SWIM had unpleasant comedown from "red meanie" due to tachycardia and fatigue, but remained calm and got through it.

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Re: Amphetamines + Opiates

SWIM is prescribed ritalin 60mg a day I.R. for the last 6 years. SWIM was recently put on 4mg of dilaudid (hydromorphone) 4 times daily. SWIM did a few rails of the dilaudid and took his ritalin as normal. SWIM got the most insane rush of euphoria it was really euphoric for SWIM. SWIM has used crack,cocaine,every opiate, amphetamine/dexedrine, ecstasy,shrooms,benzod,alcohol and weed but nothing compared to the feeling that SWIM got from 8-12mg of dilaudid snorted and 10-20mg of ritalin snorted. It is SWIM's favourite high.

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