Hi I found this in the tryptamine research chemicals forum and thought that it belonged here instead, so i'm sure pistol pete wont mind me posting it here, as i found it very very interesting that you can make a vial of LSH that actually works as a dropper.
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Originally Posted by pistol pete
Swim made a 15 ml LSH tincture out of 3500 Morning glory seeds
Swim did several militers under his tongue(around 3 to 4), it took two hours to kick in and swim had a heavy 12 hour trip, the next weekend swim did 2 hits of LSD-25, not nearly as heavy as a trip as the LSH.
Swim highly recomends this.
for the intensity of a standard hit of lsd you only need 1 ml or so
here's what swim did:
Step 1. Take 500 HBWR seeds, or 3,000 Morning Glory (heavnly blue) seeds
Grind them to a complete flower like powder.
Step 2. You need to make your seeds acidic now, so take your seeds place them in a container and make them damp with lemon juice, then cover the container to prevent evaporation. Let sit for 1-3 hours, then layout your acidic seed powder on tin foil to dry out, this should take an hour or two.
Step 3. Now its time to De-fat with your non-polar solvent. Now you need Ether, if you cant find lab grade ether its easy enough to get. (buy some standard starter fluid. get a peice of PVC, 1 ft in lenght 8th inch in diameter. now get a 750ml jar. spray the lighter fluid into the jar through the pipe. the ether will drip to the bottom as everything elses evaporates off.)
Now take your acidic seeds and soak them in the ether in a jar for atleast 1-3 hours.
then fliter off and layout your seeds to dry.
Step 4. Once dry its time to do the polar extraction. Place your seed powder in an appropriate sized container and soak with ever clear. Give a generous amount of ever clear at least an inch or two above the plant material. Put a lid on the container and put in the freezer. Shake the container from time to time over the day, the more the better. Then let the container sit in the freezer overnight. If you are in a rush this can be done I the time span of 3 hours, you will loose a little potency though. After it is placed in the freezer after the first hour check it with a black light, after several more hours check again. The liquid should be bright yellow and glow like crazy under black light. The brighter it glows with black light, the more potent. Once it stops increasing in brightness its ready, but 3000 seeds into 15ml of tincture will be pretty potent either way. Now pour off the yellow liquid (saving it) the best you can, then put the seeds in a cheesecloth and squeeze out as much precious solution as you can. You could stop at this step and dose with some of this, but it is hard to know how much to take at a random load of liquid like that. So lets take it another few steps.
(In this step the keep in a dark place, light kills potency)
Step 5. Now its time to evaporate the liquid. Take your solution and pour into a flat glass pan with a fan blowing on it. Make sure you do this in a dark area or it will decrease the potency of the LSA. Once all of it drys you will have kinda a waxy film over the glass, take a razor and scrape it up into a ball. Let it dry for a bit and chop it up the best you can into a powder. It tends to stay a little sticky. This can be done 3 to 4 times until your seeds are exahusted
Step 6. Fill up a 15 ml bottle with ever clear and set in freezer. Wait until it is as cold as it can get. Add the LSA powder to the freezing ever clear, then add atleast 5 drops of Peppermint oil. The pepper mint oil is very high in acetelhyde. When mixed with lsa and alcohol is converts to LSH which is MUCH closer to LSD than LSA is.
Make sure to keep it freezing cold or the LSH will convert back to LSA.
pistol pete added 4 Minutes and 50 Seconds later...
the LSH tintcure feels Nearly Identical to LSD
from the body high to the visuals
no nausea to speak of
so vaso contriction but barely noticable.
much better and much easyer to take than LSA
the tinticure can be stored in the freezer long term as well.
I think that the 500 HBWS is too much, he probably ment 50.
I hope that somebody can repeat this and tell us how it went. SWIM would do it but he is too busy right now.
Some thoughts about this: Because the concentration of the LSA in the 15ml solution is so high, vascoconstriction could be an issue. If SWIY intends to do this tek I recommend you test it with only one drop every time after making your tincture and note any Vasoconstriction effects. If you intend on a high dose you should probably use a drug in combination that will open the vessels, such as weed. Also for this to be effective i dont think you could transport this vial around the place, as you have to keep it very cold to favor the LSH conversion. Due to there only being 15ml of the stuff it would be wasteful to attempt to carry this around and let all your LSH turn to LSA before you try dosing.
10-02-2009, 03:16
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