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Old 29-04-2005, 07:31
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Ether from Starter Fluid (Huffing Volatile Solvents)

have any of you people out there ever bought then huffed ether?? Im talking about buying car starter fluid with ether in it, and filling half a plastic container with it. Then filling the rest of the container with water, then shake it. use a "turkey baser??" to get the purer ether out. put it in a cloth a HUFF like hil Duff. Anyone done this?? and what are your reactions?? I LOVE IT....(despite health risks)hey we only live once!
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Old 29-04-2005, 07:40
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We may only live once... but why not live LONG once?


Huffing "washed" starter fluid is terrible, why not just huff gasoline? Heptanes are nasty things... I'd try find some real ether if you need to use it. It's not that hard to find if you know where to look.
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Old 29-04-2005, 08:22
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Shake half water half starting fluid for a few minutes and pour this into a ziploc bag and let it seperate.

Now cut a small hole in ther corner and drain off the bottom layer of
cloudy water(this contains the heptane), have a container ready for the
top layer which is diethyl-ether. Now repeat this process at least one
more time or until the water stays clear.

You now have reasonably clean ether, and it still sucks IMHO.

I've tried it once just got extremely light headed, not worth the smell.


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Old 29-04-2005, 17:07
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yeah...that "we may only live once" was sarcastic. i really don't think doing this is worth it either. i get a good high off it but the taste in my mouth that stays for the next 6 hours isnt worth it despite the health risk. its just a cheap high
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Old 29-04-2005, 18:31
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Buy ether. It definately works with starter fluid but if youre not quite fit in chemistry you can do wrong a lot ... I always buy it. Check internet sites. Usually you have to send them a copy of your ID, sign a document and tell them the reason you need it (extraction of orangeoil or whatever), at least over here. If youre over 18 not much of a problem to get it. Pharmacies might sell it to you too ...
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Ether is some addictive shit.
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IMO Ether is one of those things you should try to satisfy your curiosity, but don't go too much beyond that. Sure it has been used as an anaesthetic for a long time, but the doctor doesn't exactly cover your mouth with an ether soaked rag and then make you try to walk around or anything...


A definate experience is using ether while your peaking on mushrooms. I'VE HEARD it's phenominal.
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Old 10-05-2005, 02:00
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Ether is the about the lowest you can go...Abusing a chemical used to CUT real drugs is, to say the least, idiotic. Who likes cut drugs, much less a cutting agent? Edited by: PurEuph0ria
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Old 10-05-2005, 21:15
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how the hell do you cut drugs with ether?! seriously
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Old 12-05-2005, 21:41
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I'm not sure how it works with meth, but with the culmination and refinementheroin and cocaine ether and/or acetone are required, and often times more ether is left in and dried to become part of it. Dealers can also use ether (not sure about acetone?) by adding it to crystalline substance (meth, cocaine) and it will dry with it yielding a higher quantity but lower quality product. There are MANY other things people can cut with, but ether is definately one of them.
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Old 12-05-2005, 22:03
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If acetone or ether are dried, they have
evaporated. </span>They are floating around in
the air we breathe which is why it is better to use equipment that allows for
their collection. </span>Either way they do not
remain in the product. </span>Either you are
leaving something out or I am misunderstanding.
</span>I suppose that if you used a solvent that was dirty (contained stuff
other than the solvent) then that stuff might well remain, but then it would be
dirt/crud/sludge, not solvent, that was being used to cut the product. </span>More details please.</span>


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Old 14-05-2005, 20:44
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No, it doesn't "dry up" it sort of settles in with the substance. If either meth or cocaine completely dries up it's no longer any good, moist would be a better word.
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Old 17-05-2005, 05:26
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pureuphoria i think yur mistaken..
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Old 17-05-2005, 06:03
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Seriously you've mistaken the use of solvents to purify and clean with
"cutting" which usually means adding crap to increase bulk.



Ether will not remain at room temp, it evaporates incredibly fast and there is nothign you can do to stop that.


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Old 17-05-2005, 06:06
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You can drink it, too. Once popular in Ireland:

http://www.ndc.hrb.ie/attached/731-0687604.pdf



Don't be drinking that starting fluid crap unless you distill it first.


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Old 02-06-2005, 18:22
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me and two other friends were hackingdiethyl ether one time and hacked it so much that we tried to walk on the ceiling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glorf
You can drink it, too. Once
popular in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Ireland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>:

http://www.ndc.hrb.ie/attached/731-0687604.pdf

Don't be drinking that starting fluid crap unless you distill it first.
</span>


Interesting article. </span>I’ve posted it below to make it easier to
access. </span>I am, however, doubtful that
drinking ether is a good idea. </span>I’d point
to its classification as a poison, however, it could be pointed out that such
may simply be anti drug propaganda. </span>Such
is one of the problems with the so-called ‘war on drugs’ – it creates a
situation where it is more difficult to know what information to trust. However, I would not</span> drink it.

</span>




</span>

Historical
Vignette </span>
</span>


Ether Drinking in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Ireland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>
</span>
</span>


R</span>OBERT
</span>
A. S</span>TRICKLAND</span>,
M.D.</span>







The 150th anniversary of the
first public demonstration of ether is </span><st1:date year="1996" day="16" month="10">Oct. 16,
1996</span></st1:date>.
The introduction of ether for general anesthesia was a seminal event in the
development of modem medicine and surgery. Without general anesthesia, little
progress would have been possible in surgery beyond die rudimentary stages of
the early 1840s. Many medical historians credit Dr. Crawford W. Long with the
first surgical anesthetic procedure in March 1842.<sup>1 </span></sup>While a medical
student at the University of Pennsylvania during the 1830s, Dr. Long
participated in “ether frolics” and knew firsthand the exhilarating effects of
inhaled ether vapors. He continued this type of recreation after he began his
medical practice in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Georgia</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>, and the insensibility often
produced was the basis for his first administration of ether for an operation.<sup>2 </span></sup></span>


Even though most medical
historians know about the widespread practice of ether frolics, few are aware
that ether at that time was also ingested orally for its intoxicating effects,
especially in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Ireland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>. Although details about this
practice are vague, apparently Father Mathew, a Roman Catholic priest, began
advocating complete abstinence from alcoholic beverages in 1838.<sup>3-5 </span></sup>According
to one source, Father Mathew obtained more than 5 million abstinence
pledges within 3 years in Ireland alone.<sup>4 </span></sup>Consequently, during the early
to mid-1840s, a physician in Draperstown, Londonderry County, began dispensing
small portions of ether in water to those desiring a nonalcoholic libation.
Thus, ether was used “as a liquor on which a man might get drunk with a clear
conscience.”<sup>5
</span></sup></span>


During the 1840s, illegal
distillation of alcoholic spirits became more difficult because of the desire
of the British government to halt such activity. Thus, another possible reason
for the origin of ether drinking was that “‘in a country whose people in the
past have been notoriously addicted to illicit distilling, the impossibility of
indulging in it now...has driven the people to ether as the best substitute for
poteen.”<sup>5 </span></sup>“Poteen”
was the term used for whiskey prepared by illegal distillation. At that time, a
nonmedical or “adulterated” type of ether was being prepared for industrial
purposes. This variant was substantially less costly than medically pure ether
because it was prepared from duty-free methylated spirits of wine; however, its
taste and composition were virtually identical to those of the pure ether.<sup>5 </span></sup></span>


For
whatever reason, ether drinking apparently became relatively common because in
a short period, shops in many Irish towns were selling ether in a manner
similar to taverns selling alcoholic beverages. According to a British
government report, “some 100,000 Irish consume[d] 17,000 gallons of impure
ether annually.”<sup>6 </span></sup>All age-groups ingested ether, and its use was equal
between male and female consumers. Neighborhood women, and even their young
daughters, would have “ether bees,” and children could obtain ether for
drinking purposes from local stores.<sup>4</span></sup></span>


Because ether is poorly soluble in water, it was routinely consumed
“neat” or undiluted in a small glass. One authority<sup>1 </span></sup>on this subject
described its ingestion in terms of a play: </span>


<st1lace><st2:Sn>Scene</span></st2:Sn> </span><st2:Sn>I.</span></st2:Sn></st1lace>—The mouth is
washed out with cold water. Scene II.—A draught of cold water is drunk. Scene
III.—The ether is swallowed “neat.” Scene IV.—The performance closes with a
second and final drink of cold water. </span>


As proficiency in
ether drinking developed, use of cold water could be eliminated. </span>


The initial
quantity of ether ingested by a beginner was usually 1 drachm or approximately
3.5 mL.<sup>4 </span></sup>As
tolerance increased, the amount ingested also increased; thus, “seasoned casks”
might require “‘half a wineglassful.”<sup>4 </span></sup>Hart<sup>5 </span></sup>wrote
that ‘‘the immediate effects of drinking ether are similar to those produced by
alcohol, but everything takes place more rapidly; the stages of excitement,
mental confusion, loss of muscular control, and loss of consciousness follow
each other so quickly that they cannot be clearly separated from each other.<sup>5 </span></sup>These
effects dissipated almost as rapidly as they occurred, and few, if any,
aftereffects such as nausea, headache, or hangover were noted. Because of these
“advantages,” ether inebriates were often able to imbibe several times a day,
and it was observed that “the etherist can have three thorough ‘drunks’ for one
of the alcoholist.”<sup>4 </span></sup></span>


Adverse effects
of ether drinking included profuse salivation, epigastric burning, and “rather
violent eructations.”<sup>5 </span></sup>In addition, several injuries and deaths were reported
when ether drinkers were set on fire after being too close to open flames or
when lighting a pipe.” Early during the history of ether, the route of
elimination was thought to be the lungs because the absence of an ether odor in
urine made the kidneys an unlikely route for elimination.<sup>3 </span></sup></span>


People in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Scotland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>, </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Norway</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>, and </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Russia</span></st1lace></st1:country-region> also drank
ether. In </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>France</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>, ether was
usually drunk with cognac, whereas in the </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>United States</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>, the Finns,
Swedes, and Poles in northern </span><st1:State><st1lace>Michigan</span></st1lace></st1:State> were reported to
drink ether with whiskey. </span>


Little has been written about the demise of ether drinking. In 1890, the
British government classified ether as a poison; thus, sale of ether was
severely limited because only “qualified chemists” or pharmacists could sell
it.<sup>8 </span></sup>Ether
drinking in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Ireland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region> apparently
declined because of regulatory statutes and the focus of the medical community
on such practice. </span>


REFERENCES
</span>
</span>


1. Keys TE. The History of Surgical
Anesthesia. </span><st1:State><st1lace>New York</span></st1lace></st1:State>: Schuman’s,
1945:191 </span>


2. Long CW. An account of the first use of
sulphuric ether by inhalation as an anaesthetic in surgical operations. South
Med Surg J 1849; 5:705-713 </span>


3. Draper HN. On the use of ether as an
intoxicant in the north of </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Ireland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>. Med Press 1870;
9:117-118 </span>


4. Kerr N. Ether inebriety. JAMA 1891;
17:791-794 </span>


5. Hart E. An address on ether-drinking:
its prevalence and results. BMJ 1890; 2:885-890 </span>


6. Mead GO. Ether drinking in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Ireland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>. JAMA 1891;
16:391-392 </span>


7. Draper HN. Ether drinking in the north
of </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Ireland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>. Med Press 1877;
22:425-426 </span>


8. Ether drinking in </span><st1:country-region><st1lace>Ireland</span></st1lace></st1:country-region>. BMJ 1890;
2:1315 </span>




</span>From the Department of Anesthesiology, Mayo Clinic </span><st1:City><st1lace>Rochester</span></st1lace></st1:City>, </span><st1lace><st1:City>Rochester</span></st1:City>, </span><st1:State>Minnesota</span></st1:State></st1lace>. </span>


Address reprint requests to Dr. R. A. Strickland, Department of
Anesthesiolcigy. Mayo Clinic </span><st1:City><st1lace>Rochester</span></st1lace></st1:City>, </span><st1:Street><st1:address>200 First
Street</span></st1:address></st1:Street> SW. </span><st1lace><st1:City>Rochester</span></st1:City>, </span><st1:State>MN</span></st1:State> </span><st1:PostalCode>55905</span></st1:PostalCode></st1lace>. </span></span>




This article is a
reproduction of that published in: Mayo Clin Proc, 1996, 71:1015.</span>


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o no, i aggree with pureuphoria,ether is in the dope. you just can´t see it, it´s invisible. Shhh.....it´s a secret.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRed
o no, i aggree with
pureuphoria,ether is in the dope. you just can´t see it, it´s invisible.
Shhh.....it´s a secret.
</span></span>


BigRed, in
PurEuph0ria’s post above, that you are apparently agreeing with, he stated:</span>


“I'm not sure how it works with meth, but with the
culmination and refinementheroin and cocaine ether and/or acetone are
required, and often times more ether is left in and dried to become part of it.
Dealers can also use ether (not sure about acetone?) by adding it to
crystalline substance (meth, cocaine) and it will dry with it yielding a higher
quantity but lower quality product. There are MANY other things people can cut
with, but ether is definately one of them”</span></span>


I don’t
understand how such would work. </span>As </span>unico_walker pointed out above, solvents (such as
ether) are used in the process of purification.
</span>Cutting is basically the opposite – adding stuff which makes it less
pure, but weighing more.</span></span>


Apparently you understand
it differently. I’d really appreciate
your explaining how ether can be used to cut cocaine or meth – in other words
to make them weigh more.</span></span></span>


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SWIM is not sure how it is cut, but he has had ether cut coke before.
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perhaps the coke is disolved in ether, a cutting agent like meth is added to the coke and ether, and when evapourated, the result is coke that weighs more (because of the added meth). thats my guess.. cuz good quality ether wont leave nuthin behind when properly evapourated. Edited by: elzz
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That
makes total sense, elzz. </span>Perhaps some
have simply misunderstood “ether cut” to mean that the substance that the coke
is cut with is ether, rather than that the ether is used to facilitate the adding/mixing
of the cutting substance and no longer remains in the finished product due to
having evaporated.</span>
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ya.. and cutting it that way, it would be hard to seperate the pure coke and the cutting agent since they probably have similar physical properties. im thinkin u could make some crazy stuff with cutting in this manner.. coke/meth/ketamine all in one rill. lol
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i was joking!,like hell i believe a solvent stays wit the dope. god people context clues, did my post not seem sarcastic enough?
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o yea, depending on the solvent used to recryztalise, the substance can have a different mp.

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