UK - A sticky situation... Please help

[Nomad]

A forgetful froggy wrote on a toilet wall -

I've recently got myself into a bit of a situation and I was hoping some of you could help me out.

I've been partying at a friend's house recently, doing a bit of MDMA. The the morning after, when I was leaving his house I did something pretty stupid. I had some MDMA left in a baggy, just enough for one, maybe two more hits (200 mg max). Me, being the idiot that I am, and still buzzed from the night before, decided to hide it inside a fire hydrant exit in my friend's apartment building.

Long story short, the cap on the hydrant somehow got stuck, with the baggy inside. No amount of manual force was enough to force it out. I probably have fingerprints all over the baggy, but my prints are not in the UK database. My friend's are (although he had no previous convictions), and it is possible that some of his fingerprints are left on the bag.

What will inevitably happen is that a routine fire inspection will come to inspect the hydrants and realise that something is wrong. In all likelihood, if they are successful in forcing the cap out, they will probably shred the baggy pretty badly during that process. My logic is that they would probably be pissed about the whole situation when they realise what has happened, and are likely to involve the police.

My question is whether we should treat this matter seriously (like getting hold of some heavy machinery to get that effing cap out), or is it fine to just let it be. What are the chances of this being investigated thoroughly? If the police gets involved what would be the best story to tell them?

By the way, I'm living in the UK right now. If anyone can help me out, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[madfan]

First swim stresses that this is just her personal opinion,but she thinks swiy is worrying unnecessarily.
If,as swiy probably correctly expects,the bag is shredded & hopefully the contents as well,then swim thinks its possible they may not even notice it & if they do see it they may well think its just a bit of litter.
If its seen by anyone to be pills in a bag,swim wonders if they would think it worth investing the time,energy & cost for what could be very little return.
However if it goes as swiy fears & they find & identify the prints,couldn`t swiys friend tell them some bs story about finding it on the floor & not knowing what it was,ie illegal drug,or if it might be dangerous if kids found it,as he was on his way out (or drunk & not on the ball...whatever...)he put it in the fire hydrant out of the way till later when he`d have time to hand it in to police or flush it down toilet...etc,etc.
Best of luck.

ps. dont self incriminate,use swim (someone who isnt me) or afoaf (a friend of a friend)
Yes,swim knows its a pain & (at least in swims case) it makes one feel a tad silly but its for the best.Read the rules again.

[Nomad]

SWIM thanks you for the good advice. SWIM thinks that with the amount of drug use taking place in the UK, and the courts being virtually overfilled with cases, a minor dose of MDMA, under circumstances that make it hard to tie it to a possible perpetrator, would be deemed not worthy to investigate thoroughly.

What SWIM worries most about is that he is not a UK citizen and if charged he could be booted out of the country.

Also, if one of the mods let him, SWIM would gladly edit his post to adhere to the forum rules.

[Sven99]

Is the hydrant completely airtight? Somebody could pour water into it to try to remove the prints - that wouldn't be likely to damage the extinguisher. Alternnatively somebody could try to wedge the cover off with a screwdriver or something.

[Nomad]

SWIM says it's one of those dry riser outlets that you see on apartment bock staircases. It's basically a metal pipe with a thick plastic plug at the entrance. SWIM goofed up and managed to get the baggy wedged between the cap and the wall of the pipe. Basically, it won't budge, no matter how hard you tug at the friggin cap.

SWIM and his friend were thinking of trying to inject things like gasoline or acid into the crevice to dissolve the drug and the fingerprints. They also thought of using various tools to cut up the plastic cap and force it out.

The problem is that all this activity is likely to attract the attention of the neighbours, and make it visible that the hydrant had been tampered with. And this will in turn attract the attention of whoever takes care of fire safety.

[Sunshine-Band]

You can't be too careful, best torch the whole building or call in an airstrike. What about a proper heavy duty jemmy?

[Each Hit]

swiy should cut his losses and move on. it is unlikely that anything bad is going to happen and just as unlikely that anything good will come of future tampering. if the bag is not going to come out, stay away from it and forget about it. it isn't swiy's and never was

[Joe-(5-HTP)]

Get some heavy machinery... destroy it if you have to. Then alert the landlord to get it fixed. Better safe than sorry in swim's opinion.

[old hippie 56]

^^Kinda like burning the barn down to get rid of the rats.

[Joe-(5-HTP)]

Originally Posted by old hippie 56

^^Kinda like burning the barn down to get rid of the rats.

Not really.. it's not like the fire hydrant thing belongs to him. Its like burning down someone else's barn to get rid of rats which sometimes enter your house or something.

think of a better analogy..

[aerozeppelin123]

Even IF the police were to find this baggie, which is already highly unlikely, the chances of them investigating such a trivial matter are close to zero. I have never heard of any case where an abandoned, very small amount of drugs was traced using fingerprints or any other similar method. I would say don't worry about this at all.

[bennett211085]

Trust me you have nothing to worry about, with the amount of work forensics has to go through in this country, I'm 100% certain they wouldn't even try to lift prints of 10+ e's let alone 200mg.

[Potter]

Because arson is so much better...

Don't worry, spray some bleach if you're paranoid, that's how criminals win on them detective shows these days. Seems to work too. Other then that, don't worry, random finger prints aren't worth any one's time.

Just don't get caught fucking with that hydrant. In the US, that'd be hard time, federal property and all that.

[Future_Narc_Officer]

I believe that this story reflects "drug-induced paranoia". I definitely would not worry about it if I were SWIY, though I do understand where SWIY is coming from.

[Aar0n]

Just forget about it. It's not like it's a kilo brick of Cocaine stashed with a gun with it. The police are definitely not going to go lifting prints off a tiny bag of MDMA.

As most people have said, just leave it. The only thing that would concern me is if it's going to impede the use of the fire hydrant. Then it may be worth trying to move it if it means a building could burn down because a blockage or something.

[Uncle Ramrod]

If you definitely can't reach the baggy then the next best thing would be to get rid of your fingerprints. This is easily done. Just heat up an electric hob on your cooker at home and press the printable part of each finger (thats the other side of the finger from your fingernail) against the heated element for about 10 seconds. When you pull your finger away your fingerprint should be be neatly removed and left stuck to the hob. Repeat for each finger in turn - you may feel some slight discomfort at this stage.

Leave all your fingerprints on the hob until crispy then you can eat them to destroy the evidence. Now, while the filth come a-knocking at your door you'll be able to laugh like a manic in their faces with absolute impunity.

No-one will ever know - unless they're reading this (in which case you're screwed)...

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Genius advice

[Future_Narc_Officer]

Originally Posted by metrorat

If you definitely can't reach the baggy then the next best thing would be to get rid of your fingerprints. This is easily done. Just heat up an electric hob on your cooker at home and press the printable part of each finger (thats the other side of the finger from your fingernail) against the heated element for about 10 seconds. When you pull your finger away your fingerprint should be be neatly removed and left stuck to the hob. Repeat for each finger in turn - you may feel some slight discomfort at this stage.

Leave all your fingerprints on the hob until crispy then you can eat them to destroy the evidence. Now, while the filth come a-knocking at your door you'll be able to laugh like a manic in their faces with absolute impunity.

No-one will ever know - unless they're reading this (in which case you're screwed)...

This post seriously made my day. Hilarious!

[old hippie 56]

Originally Posted by Aar0n

Just forget about it. It's not like it's a kilo brick of Cocaine stashed with a gun with it. The police are definitely not going to go lifting prints off a tiny bag of MDMA.

As most people have said, just leave it. The only thing that would concern me is if it's going to impede the use of the fire hydrant. Then it may be worth trying to move it if it means a building could burn down because a blockage or something.

Have to be one large baggie, most hydrants here in the US are 2.5 inches. With the pressure they are carrying too. Doubt a little dime baggie would impede the flow of water.

[BlondieUK]

Swiy shouldn't worry, Swiy's fingerprints are not on the baggy, and the chances of them attempting to lift prints for a measly 200mg is very slim indeed.

Swim says relax, it's just the paranoia.

Any fiddling with the hydrant will just make it worse.. just cut swiy's losses and leave it, it's only 200mg anyway, not worth the fuss.

[Uncle Ramrod]

Yeah - don't worry man. Was merely on the wind-up (although I believe the methodology is sound)... Where's that fire-hydrant by the way (can't get decent MaDMAn round here for love nor money!)

[Decstar]

This little froggy and his friend has nothing to worry about. It is very unlikely that the police could get a viable print from the baggy. Not only is it likely to be smudged and unusable, but contrary to popular belief, fingerprints tend to deteriorate with age. Also, since it is not in his or his friend's possession, he can't be charged. He should just leave it be. If he gets caught trying to retrieve it or damage it, he could have a lot of explaining to do.

[Nomad]

SWIM thanks all of you for the replies. He also thought that it is better to just forget about the whole thing, it's mostly SWIM's friend that's overreacting. SWIM is just feeling a bit guilty for being the cause of all this and making his buddy to feel scared and paranoid.

SWIM must admit the situation is a bit funny. He definitely learned his lesson and will stop using fire hydrants as hiding places for his drugs.

[Decstar]

I personally don't take any notice of messages written on toilet walls! LOL

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Putting things in perspective.

[BlondieUK]

If Swims friend is getting really paranoid, tell him swim took care of it with acid or something, at least his conscience will rest easy, since there really is nothing to worry about, unless you get caught trying to retrieve it or fiddle with it or something.