Dose - 2 questions about Ecstasy

[Liquidcande]

1. what is the best way to use mdma powder?

- rubbing into your gums
- snorting
- wrapping up in rizla paper and swallowing like a pill

2. on average, how many pills equate to a gramme of mdma (in terms of strength) now i know some mdma is better than others, but im talking about on average. i was thinking that a gramme of mdma = 10 pills??

thank you

[yolbit]

SWIM would advise against snorting MDMA powder. If its pure its more like crystals, and thats how it feels when it goes up your nose, like snorting glass. SWIY might get problems with a bloody nose as well.

Rubbing it against your gums might be ok. But most likely you'd gagg from the flavour as it is extremely bitter (think getting a panadol stuck in the back of your throat kind of flavour but all over your mouth times 10)

SWIM would suggest wrapping it in paper and swallowing it, SWIM would usually put 2 points in go from there. SWIM also used to mix it with a bit of speed or coke and snort it. That was always fun, but like suggested earlier, painful.

And in answer to SWIY're second question, I'd say 4-5 pills to a gram of MDMA, at least where SWIM is from, but how can you ever really tell?

[Routemaster Flash]

Originally Posted by yolbit

And in answer to SWIY're second question, I'd say 4-5 pills to a gram of MDMA, at least where SWIM is from, but how can you ever really tell?

Pills containing a quarter-gram of MDMA would be INSANE! (in a good way though, if you knew what you getting, at least. )

Good street pills generally contain about 100mg of MDMA (1/10th of a gram), really strong ones about 125mg (1/8). This is in the UK, apparently 75-100mg is more common in the US. Dunno about Australia, though I can't imagine they're *twice* as strong as they (good ones, anyway) are here. In general SWIM would estimate 4-5 decent pills to a half-gram of MDMA.

[yaba]

Pills of 100mg MDMA was common in swims time.
Pill makers don't want to make very strong pills they don't want people over dosing ! Not good for business, police will investigate..

Some pill with 150mg could be found.. And 10 years ago (not sure now) swim was told people in Australia were willing to pay for there pills and good quality was made for them 125-150mg.

Some people would ask for 200mg MDMA in a pill, but sensible pill makers wont make them.

[yolbit]

Originally Posted by Routemaster Flash

I can't imagine they're *twice* as strong as they are here. In general SWIM would estimate 4-5 decent pills to a half-gram of MDMA.

SWIM can, hes been the UK and the pills are rubbish, the pills here are easily twice as strong, if not stronger.

[Routemaster Flash]

Originally Posted by yolbit

SWIM can, hes been the UK and the pills are rubbish, the pills here are easily twice as strong, if not stronger.

Bear in mind I did say GOOD pills contain about a hundred emgees, there are also loads of shitty pills around that contain far less. This SWIMmer's had amazing pills before that would have been pretty uncomfortable if they'd been twice as strong.

[yolbit]

you poms need more sunshine....and MDMA in your pills, the kind with 200mgs

**Yolbit hides**

[Liquidcande]

ive heard from a reliable source that they are almost twice as strong in most cases...

but i want to know more opinion on my original questions up at the top please.

[yolbit]

actually now that SWIM thinks about it 250mgs is a fair bit, probably more than has been in most pills that SWIM has eaten.

Liquidcane - like SWIM said MDMA powder tastes like shit, the high wont be that much different if you stuck it under your tongue or rubbed it into your gums, maybe feeling a high slightly quicker this way

snorting hurts, make yourself a little line and see...also the effects dont feel as good IMO

SWIM likes to drop it (in a paper) coz you get that MDMA come on feeling then a euphoric peak that hits you really hard all at once

[PsychedeliaSmith]

SWIM has been unable to get good pills for a very long time, but when he could they would contain 100-125mg MDMA each.
So 8-10 pills to a gram of MDMA.

SWIM finds it easier to just buy MDMA crystals now, he knows what he's getting every time that way.

[Routemaster Flash]

An average pill weighs about 250mg in total, so there's no way you could get that much MDMA in a pill as there'd be no binder to hold it together. Unless the pill was the size of a fruit pastille or something! Mmm....

Routemaster Flash added 18 Minutes and 25 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by Liquidcande

but i want to know more opinion on my original questions up at the top please.

Just dab it with your finger and lick it up - with a drink on hand to take the taste away, obviously. SWIM doesn't think there's any need to do anything more complicated than it with that, although making rizla bombs is a good idea if you can't handle the taste, or if you want to make convenient little doses so you don't have to mess about with loose powder/crystals in the club or wherever you're taking it.

[Liquidcande]

Swim is not new to any of this, but wondered what the differences in effects were, but it seems nobody has a scientific answer for me.

He actually doesnt mind the taste of it, yea its foul, but he's fuckin british, we're not made of piss over here ya know! just kiddin... its mingin!!