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Old 09-02-2009, 04:09
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Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Swim has a script for it and was wondering if there was anything stronger or what the strongest pain med out there is??
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:23
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Fentanyl...not in terms of euphoria (feeling high) but in terms of analgesia (pain relief), yes

Oxymorphone= 6-8x stronger than morphine

Fentanyl= 100x stronger than morphine

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

SWIM was wondering how you got a script for such a strong PK.
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Swim has degenerative disc and her doc is known for hooking people up.Swim almost wishes she never went to him, but now that she is opiate dependant is glad to have him in her corner. Swim looked on her docs computer while waiting and saw that he had written "fibromyalga" in her file also, he just never mentioned it to her,lol. He may be covering his tracks for prescribing such strong stuff. Swim really never had that to much pain and went to this doc really for a hook up, got one x ray and has been getting pretty much anything for a few years.

motherlove1973 added 1 Minutes and 6 Seconds later...

Swim did have pain, just not that bad at first, but over the last few years it has gotten really bad at times.

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

ahh SWIM sees. Yea that doc is pretty sick if he hooks SWIY up like that. Too bad its not like the old days, where you could just buy morphine at the drug store. Irresponsible kids these days. SWIM has a recurring cyst on his back and has had 3 surgeries, and all SWIM gets is 7.5mg hydrocodone, and wishes that he could get something stronger. SWIM just doesn't want to look like a junkie when asking, or even worse become opiate addicted.
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

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her doc is known for hooking people up.
Hopefully SWIM will never have to deal with this,but the problem with "hook up"docs is that they get famous quick which means that they sometimes get into the spotlight.If this should happen and God forbid things go south,SWIM my find themselves scrambeling to get the meds that they are used to getting.
Like I said,HOPEFULLY SWIM WILL NEVER have to go through anything like that but it's good to have a back up plan just in case.

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SWIM has a recurring cyst on his back and has had 3 surgeries, and all SWIM gets is 7.5mg hydrocodone, and wishes that he could get something stronger. SWIM just doesn't want to look like a junkie when asking, or even worse become opiate addicted.
SWIM does not think SWIY would look like a junkie if (depending on how long SWIY has been on these)they were to tell the DR. that the current med is not quite working like it used too and is worried about the effects it may have on SWIY's liver.If SWIY were to ask respectiably and not aim toward any "Specific" med then chances are that the meds may be changed(especially if SWIY has had severel surgeries which would indicate there is a re-occuring problem).Good Luck,and remember to maintain a good relationship with SWIY's DR.!!!!

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Old 09-02-2009, 15:46
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Yes, swims doc has gotten in some trouble before. She really does not understand how he is still able to practice really. She knows she would never be hooked up the same with any other doc and hopes nothing happens to him.She is addicted and even though she does have pain,she does not have enough for this type of relief. Swim feels really sorry for people who suffer without the meds they need and hope swiy asks your doctor for something stronger. What do swiy have to lose? They can tell when someone is just drug seeking and swiy, is not, so please ask.
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

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Swim feels really sorry for people who suffer without the meds they need and hope swiy asks your doctor for something stronger. What do swiy have to lose? They can tell when someone is just drug seeking and swiy, is not, so please ask.
SWIM is quite comfortable with their meds it is SWIbknowles27 that should talk to their Dr.
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

SWIM has a doctors appointment tomorrow, and will definitely discuss the upgrade. Appreciate the helps guys.
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Hey good luck with that. Just be upfront anf honest with him! They know how easy it is to build a tolerance. Please post tomorrow after and let swim know,ok?

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Old 14-03-2009, 12:14
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

The most potent opioid known right now is an analogue of ohmefentanyl.

18,000x more potent than morphine. I doubt that you could ever really get your tolerance high enough where this stuff is actually usable.

Im talking about doses in the nanogram range!

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

bknowles27
Tell next time the doctors talks to you about your meds, say that your taking double the dose that he has recommended because that's what you find is working best, remember this, the doctor works for you its not the other way around. Im only 20 years old and im on oxycontin right now, and although i really do need it, i was and still afriad to ask the docs for pain meds, but alot of nurses ive talked to kept telling me that the docs work for you, and be asertive. It worked for me, shit i dident even start out with percs or something like that i went from no pain controll to morphine. Then i saw a specilist and i went from morphine to oxycontin. My next visit im going to tell him im taking an extra pill for the pain because i know he cant cut me off, he is also a very conservative doctor and does not want me on these meds, he stated that clearly thats why i had to go to the specialist. But because the specialist thinks i should be on the oxycontin, he has his ass covered and is now fine with doing what i want. Try and get into a relationship like this.
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Old 29-06-2009, 17:32
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

SWIM hasnt been on in a while, but would like to thank everyone for their concern and help. SWIM is now on hydromorphone...
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

No the strongest but definitely not for a toothache!

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Oxymorphone is the strongest opioid available in pill form in the United States.

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

I'm so glad you talked to you doctor, hydromorphone (dilaudid) is some strong stuff...It sells for XXX dollars a milligram were swim lives..this is because of it's extreme euphoria went this particular medication is injected into a vein...very similar to heroin...it also can be snorted for better pain relief...Swim is not condoning any of these practices..harm reduction and safety first....pg

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Old 13-09-2009, 03:48
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Take a look at forum rules, drug prices are forbidden. As to the thread, Oxymorphone is great, and yes, for a high it is the best drug in the united states, here in canada, they used hydromorphone(dilaudid) tablets, and the hydromorph contin capsules, which of course can all be abused. Oxymorphone is more rare in canada.

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

It may be one of the stronger ones out there ,but like any other med it may not work as well for swim as one of the "weaker" meds...........
Swim had been on fent for some time but the patches irritated his skin and a hot shower would wash off a brand new patch.......plus they just became a pain in the ass after a while..........
So what may be the strongest sometimes ain't the best.....
With the Opana (oxymorphone)swim had some weird side effects,like profuse sweating and feeling sick the next day after ingestion,not dopesickness,but just stomach cramps and a overall ill feeling....that was only resolved by another dose............
Swim stinks fent may be stronger...but whatever works for swiy body is the best bet..........
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Fentanyl is currently the strongest opioid analgesic prescribed being about 80 x morphine in potency. For surgery, sufentanil (400-800 x morphine) AND it will soon be available for pain in the form of Transdur patches that are smaller than the equivalent fentanyl patch and work for 7 days.



^On the left is a Duragesic (fentanyl) patch, on the right a Transdur (sufentanil) patch.



^And here is the structure of sufentanil...
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

SWIM says that fentanyl and it's derivatives (ie. sufentanyl, etc.) are the strongest fully synthetic opiate derivatives. However he told me that it does not give the user the intense euphoria that other opiate-based drugs do. SWIM has tried Opana IR (Immediate release oxymorphone tabs) and said that it produces a pleasant sensation at 60-90mg's (he has found that with his tolerance anything less than 6-10 10mg tabs of oxymorphone is't really 'noticeable' for him. The othe thing is tha fentanyl based drugs produce analgesia and CNS (Central Nervous System) depression but are less 'euphoric'. Users looking to fentanyl as the shangri-la of highs have been known to die/OD -- they stopped breathing before they felt the high they were looking for.

So... to wrap it up: For pain relief / analgesia Fentanyl and it's derivatives are the strongest prescription drugs available to consumers to date. However, SWIM says his all-time favorite for getting high and feeling euphoria (rarer and rarer these days with his high tolerance for opiates) is immediate release oxycodone 15-30mg tabs which SWIM takes @ 150mg for the first dose and approximately 60+mg maintenance doses throughout the remainder of the day

Long post, sorry. SWIM just ate a 100mcg Fentanyl patch and is high as f*&%, so my attention span is somewhat affected.

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Since the fentanyl class of opioid is a very specific mu opioid receptor agonist, the euphoria is identical if you can dump it into the blood-stream fast enough. Try taking a duragesic patch & smearing it onto aluminium foil. Dry in an oven on a VERY low setting and vapourise it. It got me totally wankered in about 20 seconds flat. OK, it was gone again in 15 minutes but it was good.
I may add that fentanyl class opioids are just about the most addictive stuff their is. EVERYONE I know who made it ended up with a massive habit and were taking it every 20 minutes night and day.

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

Swim agrees with you, this drug seems to be processed very fast when put in the body. Swim use to drop one in coffee mug, add hot water, not too hot, and stir for five minutes. Swim really enjoyed his fentanyl tea, but very short lived, and very expensive even at the pharmacy. For the amount of effects and time lasted, swim would much prefer hydromorph's or oxycodone's. Oxymorphone is good too though. There is two reasons why these two painkillers ie: hydromorphone/ hydromorph contin and oxycodone's are the most abused painkillers in north america. A, they are the best bang for the buck, B, they are the most widely available. Swim has a friend who is addicted to opiates and chose fentanyl as his drug of choice. Swims friend pays a fortune for his stash, and spends most of his time using due to the half life of the drug, while the other users who are using oxycodone or hydromorphone(dilaudid) can actually carry out there day and accomplish things. Swim knows 100% too that the withdrawal of fentanyl is horrible. But swim will agree that the fentanyl are the most potent, but fentanyl is not as desired for abuse as it is a pain in the ass to abuse for one and two lasts two short. Great for pain, bad for buzz. In swim's opinion. Oxymorphs are definatly up there though, I would say for pill form, they are the strongest. Swim always found the strongest ones were the hydromorph contins, when crushed up and snorted, because these capsules unlike the tablets, come in monster sizes, up to 30mg(red ones). One of these crushed up and snorted, is the strongest painkiller swim has ever experianced. Swim broke his arm while he was high and was laughing....
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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

there's a lot of REALLY REALLY REALLY powerful opiates out there... most of them aren't used in medicine, but are used to immobilize large animals such as elephants, rhino's etc.

etorphine is 1000-3000 times as potent as morphine

carfentanil is 10,000 times more potent than morphine

3-methylfentanyl 6000 times more potent than morphine (used as a chemical weapon in the moscow theater hostage crisis in russia in 2002)

ohmefentanyl 6300 times pore potent than morphine

4-fluorohmefentanyl approximately 18,000 times more potent than morphine (currently strongest opioid known to man)

any of these opiates are lethal on skin contact. if you are using them to tranquilize an animal, diprenorphine is supplied along with the opiate in case of accidental contact.

anything stronger than oxymorphone is just a bad idea for rec use, not as much of a high, too much risk for od, heroin isn't all that incredibly potent MG for MG considering the potency of many synthetics, but it's still the best high.

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there's a lot of REALLY REALLY REALLY powerful opiates out there... most of them aren't used in medicine, but are used to immobilize large animals such as elephants, rhino's etc.

etorphine is 1000-3000 times as potent as morphine

carfentanil is 10,000 times more potent than morphine

3-methylfentanyl 6000 times more potent than morphine (used as a chemical weapon in the moscow theater hostage crisis in russia in 2002)

ohmefentanyl 6300 times pore potent than morphine

4-fluorohmefentanyl approximately 18,000 times more potent than morphine (currently strongest opioid known to man)

any of these opiates are lethal on skin contact. if you are using them to tranquilize an animal, diprenorphine is supplied along with the opiate in case of accidental contact.

anything stronger than oxymorphone is just a bad idea for rec use, not as much of a high, too much risk for od, heroin isn't all that incredibly potent MG for MG considering the potency of many synthetics, but it's still the best high.
Swim wonders why this is so(the heroin high thing). There are many opiates that have claims put on them saying 5-10 times more potent than heroin or twice as potent. I will use dilaudid for instance, when swim went to rehabthe doctor told him that dilaudid was 2-4 times more potent than heroin on a mg to mg basis, but swim found the high from heroin better. This baffles swim, would anyone like to clarifye?

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Re: Is oxymorphone the strongest pain medicine out there?

swim enjoys the hydromorphone.. and im not on it because of the back pain, nor any other legitimate reason.. lol and for all of swiys it is better feeling, personally of course, than the oxycontin.

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