Effects - Oxycontin - little euphoria?

[Waste]

SWIM recently managed to get hold of 80mg Oxycontin, pretty much his first real opiate.

He took off the green, slow release shell, as everyone he spoke to said this was definately needed.

His first try was on Wednesday evening, he split the 80mg pill into 4 quaters and crushed 1 of those 4 up.
He racked the 20mg into 4 lines of 5mg. started off with 10mg, 5 up each nostril.
30 mins later, a bit disapointed with the effects, he had another 5mg, and ~50 minutes after that finished the last 5.

There were some nice effects, and just after snorting the last 5mg he started nodding really hard, couldnt keep his eyes open and felt really great just to close them and lay back in bed.
He was pretty pleased with this, likened it to a stronger form of GBL that didn't put you to sleep.


He didnt take any the next day, but the day after that (tonight), he decided to have another 1/4
This time he snorted ~15mg straight out, and finished the other 5mg maybe 30 mins later.

He felt ok, generally pretty chilled out and would have little patches of maybe 5 minutes where he would nod pretty hard (getting ever-so slightly heavier now, maybe 3 hours later), but it was nowhere near as strong as the other night.


SWIM's main question;

From all the hype this stuff gets, SWIM was expecting to be melting into his bed, huge grin on his face, is it just that he needs to take more? maybe take it orally instead of nasally?
And also, does tollerance really build up that fast? Obviosly SWIM can't disclose how much he paid for an 80, but if he's going to need more than 1/4 at a time, it's pretty expensive...

[drug-bot]

while the effects may come on faster when snorted, there is a significantly higher bio-availability when taken orally (swim used to crush them and take orally, that is before he started injecting them i.v).

the reasons swiy didnt feel as much euphoria after doing it could be due to any number of reasons,
- swiy was expecting too much (not that likely, but possible,)
-it could be swiy simply didnt take enough (more plauseabe)
-or did take enough but spaced the doses out by too much time,
-took enough but the lower bioavailabilty of snortng oxycodone compared to orally taken was the reason.
^it could be any one of those or a combination of those reasons or a reason swim cant think of. remember to be careful about taking too high a dose and try not mix to it with other cns depresants, to stay on the safe side.
-peace man

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by Waste

SWIM recently managed to get hold of 80mg Oxycontin, pretty much his first real opiate.

He took off the green, slow release shell, as everyone he spoke to said this was definately needed.

His first try was on Wednesday evening, he split the 80mg pill into 4 quaters and crushed 1 of those 4 up.
He racked the 20mg into 4 lines of 5mg. started off with 10mg, 5 up each nostril.
30 mins later, a bit disapointed with the effects, he had another 5mg, and ~50 minutes after that finished the last 5.

There were some nice effects, and just after snorting the last 5mg he started nodding really hard, couldnt keep his eyes open and felt really great just to close them and lay back in bed.
He was pretty pleased with this, likened it to a stronger form of GBL that didn't put you to sleep.


He didnt take any the next day, but the day after that (tonight), he decided to have another 1/4
This time he snorted ~15mg straight out, and finished the other 5mg maybe 30 mins later.

He felt ok, generally pretty chilled out and would have little patches of maybe 5 minutes where he would nod pretty hard (getting ever-so slightly heavier now, maybe 3 hours later), but it was nowhere near as strong as the other night.


SWIM's main question;

From all the hype this stuff gets, SWIM was expecting to be melting into his bed, huge grin on his face, is it just that he needs to take more? maybe take it orally instead of nasally?
And also, does tollerance really build up that fast? Obviosly SWIM can't disclose how much he paid for an 80, but if he's going to need more than 1/4 at a time, it's pretty expensive...

20 mg's of Oxy is a pretty mild to medium dose. The first time most swimmers do hard opiates they over do it and experience greater amounts of euphoria because of it, they also puke and pass out but who cares when youre high as a kite. Swiy might just have a natural dispostion to not enjoy opiates as much as most. If thats the case you might want to consider swiyourself lucky and not use opiates as they can lead to physical dependece fairly quickly. Swim personally would take that other 40 mg's of oxy and rail it or plug it right before a social event but swim has experience using it and isnt starting out with no tolerance. Also Oxy makes swim social and doesnt provide much of a nod just mostly euphoria.

[Waste]

Hmm SWIM didn't know about the lower bioavailabilty through snorting

He's got around 50mg left (one of the 1/4's was a tad bigger than the rest), maybe leave it a few days and then eat 40mg and save the 10mg for a top up 30 mins later?

The thing is, SWIM really doesn't want to be sick, surely this takes all the chemicals out of SWIYour stomach before they can be propally absorbed?

[cybergenesis]

Swim doesn't know about most people but Swim uses several methods to gauge the effects of opiates. This way Swim knows if he can safely take more (Swim is very cautious).

Swim always measures his pulse rate by minute and breathing per minute. You don't have to count the whole minute, measure your pulse over 10 seconds multiply by 6, and your breathing over 20 seconds multiply by 3.

If your breathing and pulse aren't especially slowed then you definitely have room for more.

The second factor Swim measures is sedation and general effects. I don't know what you mean by nodding, but if you mean you literally are falling asleep then waking up, then falling asleep etc, then your dose was enough.

Otherwise swim should try a higher dose. While opiates don't really make Swim euphoric, they make Swim profoundly relaxed when swims taken enough. Swim loves lying back in bed and feeling so comfortable and relaxed.

But Swims naturally tolerance is very high. Swim took 100mg oxy other day at once and it barely did anything. Swim also took 15mg of valium (warning benzos and opiates mixed together can result in overdosage and death). Even with the valium Swim only felt moderately relaxed.