Experiences - The Percocet Puke

[Rosco2]

Someone I know (who isn't me) wrote the following:

I've been having a little difficulty getting a hold of some LSD, so for my next drug experience, I decided to try some Percocets that I had left over from a 2-year-old bottle prescribed for an injury.

Let me tell ya, for newbieS even newbieR than me, use CWE (Cold Water Extraction). I decided not to use CWE for my first-ever opiate experience so I could get a baseline of what the experience was like without CWE. Not very pleasant, even though I only took 5 Percocets, which each contained 5 milligrams of oxycodone and 325 milligrams of APAP.

I suppose my long-enduring nausea and one-time vomit was due to the APAP, but I can't be certain since I understand that folks who smoke or shoot heroin do vomit, too.

Anyway, even 12 hours later I was feeling a little nauseated.

I did experience a rushing opiate euphoria while I was lying down in bed, stomach side up. I believe this happened an hour or two after I took the drug. The extreme euphoria only lasted a couple seconds, though--I think because as soon as I started feeling it, I instinctively got out of bed and started walking around--just in case. Unfortunately, when I got back in bed, the euphoria didn't return.

It was nice, but it can't match the euphoria and excitement from sex )

I may try it again--don't know. If I do try again, I'll definitely get the APAP out by using Cold Water Extraction.

How common is it to get a Percocet rush that lasts longer than 2 or 3 seconds? Is snorting or smoking heroin stronger than oxycodone, or does heroin just give you a longer lasting rush?

Since I couldn't get the opiate rush back, I decided to take 5 medium-sized gulps of beer to help potentiate the rush, but the beer didn't help bring it back. I only took 5 medium gulps because I read that's it's very dangerous to mix alcohol with opiates (even fatal). My one up-chuck happened not long after drinking the beer. (A couple weeks ago, I saw a 30-year-old lady I was dating drink a whole 16-oz can of beer, but she only swallowed 2 Percocets with the beer--and may have had a tolerance.)

How long should I wait before trying Percocet again so the same 25 milligrams of oxycodone will provide the same effect, without tolerance? A month? A couple weeks? Two months?

One last concern is the walloping headache I got after I walked outside for a little bit a few hours after taking the drug. Can I also blame the headache on the APAP? I think this may have been a result of the oxycodone, but not sure.

Darn, the Feds are sneaky. I thought I'd be okay just taking 5 Percocets with just 1,625 mg of APAP, but even 5 Percs were too much. I think the cut-off to avoid nausea might be just 3 or 1,000 mg APAP.

Note to self: I read that 4,000 milligrams of APAP can cause liver damage, but don't even risk 3,000 mg.

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That's the end of SWIMs comments.

[AddyCrazy]

SWIM thinks its a combination of the oxycodone and the APAP that caused nausea. Did one have anything in their stomach when ingesting? Its always good to have a little something in there like some bread or crackers. Also taking dramamine or benadryl an hour before hand greatly reduces nausea. 4,000 mg is the maximum daily intake that is considered "healthy" SWIM has taken 10 oxycodone/APAP that were 7.5/325 before and he had little to no nausea but that was very stupid of him. SWIY isn't going to get a rush from taking some percocet just get an overall sense of well-being and content. If one wanted a rush the next thing would be insufflating oxycodone but one can't do that with percocet. SIWM would compare maybe high doses either being IV'ed or insufflated to heroin but definitely not 25mg of orally ingested percocet. CWE is a good idea but with the doses SWIY is taking its really not all that necessary but SWIM would say the doses one took was a little high for the first time most people start at 10 - 15 mg. Don't expect an insane euphoria rush like one is smoking rock or something because its more just a sense of being insanely comfortable, warm and fuzzy, and jus content with life which translates to euphoria when one realizes how content he really is.

EDIT: As far as the 25mg affecting SWIY the same if one has pretty much no tolerance SWIM would just a week would most likely be fine. SWIM uses oxycontin and the like semi-habitually and after stopping for 2 weeks 10 - 20mg affects someone nicely when insufflated but by the end of my habitual use it usually takes atleast 40mg to catch a buzz and like 60 - 80 to get a nice nod.

[MEKONE]

Originally Posted by Rosco2

I suppose my long-enduring nausea and one-time vomit was due to the APAP, but I can't be certain since I understand that folks who smoke or shoot heroin do vomit, too.

Common Opiate side effect,may be associated with taking too much for SWIY at one time.

Originally Posted by Rosco2

The extreme euphoria only lasted a couple seconds, though--I think because as soon as I started feeling it, I instinctively got out of bed and started walking around--just in case. Unfortunately, when I got back in bed, the euphoria didn't return.

Did SWIY get out of bed due to nausea or were they just uneasy with the feeling?There is more to opiates than just the initial "Rush" such as the peak when one has hit the point and just stays in that "mellow" state of mind.

Originally Posted by Rosco2

How common is it to get a Percocet rush that lasts longer than 2 or 3 seconds? .

Being that they were taken oraly is SWIY sure that this was a "Rush" and not that they just felt it "creeping" up on them?

Originally Posted by Rosco2

How long should I wait before trying Percocet again so the same 25 milligrams of oxycodone will provide the same effect, without tolerance? A month? A couple weeks? Two months?

Since SWIY is not a every day user a few days should be fine( 2-4)

Originally Posted by Rosco2

Note to self: I read that 4,000 milligrams of APAP can cause liver damage, but don't even risk 3,000 mg.

This is usually associated with constant use.Not saying that 4,000mg won't cause damage.
Some advise for SWIY from SWIM start off slow,dose once and then repeat as necessary.This may help avoid nausea as well as vomiting and headaches.
Good Luck,and Stay Safe!!!

[cybergenesis]

I doubt it was much to do with the APAP that caused the nausea at that dosage, most likely the oxy.

I would wait 4-5 days before trying it again. If you do it more frequently, I'd suggest about once a week.

Opiates can cause headache as a side effect.

The amount of beer you are talking about is too small to be likely to have much effect. Do a search for beer , i wrote a thread about combining beer or alcohol with opiates.

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Youre 100 percent correct. great advice

[Songcycle67]

For someone with no tolerance, 25mg of oxycodone is quite a bit. They only make up to 30mg single pills as far as I know.

Anyway, SWIM has a high tolerance to pain pills and has been using oxycodone for a year or so now, at least three-four times a week. Still to this day if he takes over 60mg (which would be the equivalent of a "newbie" to the experience, with an average tolerance to the effects of opiates, taking around 10mg or so) he vomits until he can just dry-heave. It's definitely not fun, but at this point his tolerance requires around 45-60mg per dose for pain relief.

Some people are just extremely extremely sensitive to the nausea it causes, and I've met other people who love the way it makes their stomach feel when they're nauseous--"like it's full of butterflies." Never understood that much, though.

It's definitely a feature of the drug, and one is guaranteed a good puke if they cross a certain threshold--SWIM has seen people puke all over themselves on 10mg hydrocodone. Most people who try heroin puke the first time as well if they get a solid dose. SWIM puked himself silly after 20mg insufflated. It's a pretty well-known/researchable reaction, especially with highly potent opiates like heroin and oxies.

[cybergenesis]

Hmm I agree with the above post, except that its guaranteed to make you puke if you cross a threshhold. Swims pushed the threshold (believe swim), and except perhaps if Swim tried to seriously overdose, well Swim has never experienced any nausea. Swim seems to be lucky. Swims always had a cast iron stomach. Swim is one of these lucky people, never experienced ANY side effect that is not desirable from any opiate. No nausea, itching , headache etc. hehe

[Master_Khan]

I don't know why someone who has no tolerance feels compelled to start with 25 mg of oxy. (2)-5 mg tabs should be fine and keep the dizzyness/nausea to a minimum.

[Dreznik]

... 16-oz can of beer, but she only swallowed 2 Percocets with the beer--and may have had a tolerance..........

Swiy's donkey usually ingests 5-10percs + 6-10 regular beers to assist with the back pain & buzfaktor.

Originally Posted by Rosco2

Someone I know (who isn't me) wrote the following:

I've been having a little difficulty getting a hold of some LSD, so for my next drug experience, I decided to try some Percocets that I had left over from a 2-year-old bottle prescribed for an injury.

Let me tell ya, for newbieS even newbieR than me, use CWE (Cold Water Extraction). I decided not to use CWE for my first-ever opiate experience so I could get a baseline of what the experience was like without CWE. Not very pleasant, even though I only took 5 Percocets, which each contained 5 milligrams of oxycodone and 325 milligrams of APAP.

I suppose my long-enduring nausea and one-time vomit was due to the APAP, but I can't be certain since I understand that folks who smoke or shoot heroin do vomit, too.

Anyway, even 12 hours later I was feeling a little nauseated.

I did experience a rushing opiate euphoria while I was lying down in bed, stomach side up. I believe this happened an hour or two after I took the drug. The extreme euphoria only lasted a couple seconds, though--I think because as soon as I started feeling it, I instinctively got out of bed and started walking around--just in case. Unfortunately, when I got back in bed, the euphoria didn't return.

It was nice, but it can't match the euphoria and excitement from sex )

I may try it again--don't know. If I do try again, I'll definitely get the APAP out by using Cold Water Extraction.

How common is it to get a Percocet rush that lasts longer than 2 or 3 seconds? Is snorting or smoking heroin stronger than oxycodone, or does heroin just give you a longer lasting rush?

Since I couldn't get the opiate rush back, I decided to take 5 medium-sized gulps of beer to help potentiate the rush, but the beer didn't help bring it back. I only took 5 medium gulps because I read that's it's very dangerous to mix alcohol with opiates (even fatal). My one up-chuck happened not long after drinking the beer. (A couple weeks ago, I saw a 30-year-old lady I was dating drink a whole 16-oz can of beer, but she only swallowed 2 Percocets with the beer--and may have had a tolerance.)

How long should I wait before trying Percocet again so the same 25 milligrams of oxycodone will provide the same effect, without tolerance? A month? A couple weeks? Two months?

One last concern is the walloping headache I got after I walked outside for a little bit a few hours after taking the drug. Can I also blame the headache on the APAP? I think this may have been a result of the oxycodone, but not sure.

Darn, the Feds are sneaky. I thought I'd be okay just taking 5 Percocets with just 1,625 mg of APAP, but even 5 Percs were too much. I think the cut-off to avoid nausea might be just 3 or 1,000 mg APAP.

Note to self: I read that 4,000 milligrams of APAP can cause liver damage, but don't even risk 3,000 mg.

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That's the end of SWIMs comments.

[Baked.]

SWIM is probably the worst out of anyone with nausea. Whenever he does DXM, nitrous oxide, adderall, or any pain killer, he throws up everywhere unless he isn't moving too much. Last night, SWIM did some percs and just laid on his bed and listened to music for 2 hours. It was definitely his favorite experience so far with oxy. SWIM feels pain killers are best used when you're safe and sound in your house and you can just relax.

SWIM's suggestions to avoiding nausea:
- Stay hydrated(Not too much or you throw it up)
- Don't move around much at all, just lie down and relax.
- Definitely have a bowl packed and ready to hit if you start to feel the nausea coming.

[Dreznik]

.. SWIM's suggestions to avoiding nausea .... yes I concur, these steps will work. Swiy also finds that his other donkey friends also feel as if they are going to puke and do get the heeves , perhaps from the anticipation + excitement.

Originally Posted by Baked.

SWIM is probably the worst out of anyone with nausea. Whenever he does DXM, nitrous oxide, adderall, or any pain killer, he throws up everywhere unless he isn't moving too much. Last night, SWIM did some percs and just laid on his bed and listened to music for 2 hours. It was definitely his favorite experience so far with oxy. SWIM feels pain killers are best used when you're safe and sound in your house and you can just relax.

SWIM's suggestions to avoiding nausea:
- Stay hydrated(Not too much or you throw it up)
- Don't move around much at all, just lie down and relax.
- Definitely have a bowl packed and ready to hit if you start to feel the nausea coming.

[cra$h]

yea, the puking is pretty much routine. swim's been using his regular dose for 2 months or so now and every time he pukes. It's not until now that he almost doesn't, but then again, he aint gettin as high. And 25mg is a lot for a first timer. Cut it down by 10 and it'll be a much more pleasant experience. But that's not necessarily a good thing..

[Herbal Remedy]

swim is prescribed oxycodone hcl (without appap) b/c of this factor. If Swim ever finds himself in a situation where he has to take percocet, he always keeps an empty trash bag nearby b/c he will vomit sooner or later. Swim has decent tolerance b/c he has a script.

Everyone is different so maybe it was the oxy, maybe it was the apap, maybe both (for Swim, its from the combination, it tears him up).

Be careful, if one is using for recreational use either use CWE, use in moderation, or both. These meds really can cause unpleasantness just as easy as they can give one a buzz.

Start at a lower dose and if necessary work your way up. Remember, you can always take more but you canT take less.

[Dreznik]

AGREED: Start at a lower dose .. or as swiys donkey does, wipe the protective coat off them with a wet paper towel, takes a few seconds. Swiy personally pops 2 percs at a time, swishes beer or any other readily avail liquid... this seems to help.

Originally Posted by Herbal Remedy

swim is prescribed oxycodone hcl (without appap) b/c of this factor. If Swim ever finds himself in a situation where he has to take percocet, he always keeps an empty trash bag nearby b/c he will vomit sooner or later. Swim has decent tolerance b/c he has a script.

Everyone is different so maybe it was the oxy, maybe it was the apap, maybe both (for Swim, its from the combination, it tears him up).

Be careful, if one is using for recreational use either use CWE, use in moderation, or both. These meds really can cause unpleasantness just as easy as they can give one a buzz.

Start at a lower dose and if necessary work your way up. Remember, you can always take more but you canT take less.

[JesseXTC]

For a non-tolerant opiate user, usually 5-10, mg would cause a nice a beautiful buzz. When it comes to opiates, more isn't always better, especially with opiates, as more opiates can spill over the receptors, and theres a fine line between rousing up the nausea receptors. Also, be sure to keep one's self hydrated, as this will be a problem with opiates, and when one keeps drinking water it does help with the nausea, and instead of dry heaving at least one will have some water to throw up.
Plus, when swim gets nauseated, he usually just has to lay down, and not move at all. He just lays there and enjoys the opiates until the overall feeling of sickness goes away, and almost always works for the nausea and takes it away, however if he gets up before this feeling is gone, he almost always throws up, and has learned now through time to just lay there and let the feeling pass.
Swim doesn't personally enjoy mixing cannabis with opiates, it seems to make him extra tired, sedated and heavy, and he seems to only get the negative effects from the cannabis, these two drugs would be left to singular use for swim.

Something else that helps with nausea, is tums. It just manages to settle swims stomach in many opiate nausea occasions, and it very simple and easy to obtain and use, hell it wouldn't hurt to try this one

Jesse