Experiences - Lunesta (Eszopiclone) Experiences

[schillbj]

Has anyone tried Lunesta yet? It is supposed to work like Ambien. I want to know if it has the same side effects as Ambien if you stay awake. I have had some pretty trippy experiences on Ambien and I am hoping Lunesta is just as interesting.

[gordonb]

Anyone else had experience with this? I got a sample prescript from my doc and also batch from an online source - thanks to Vicente Fox Quesada-



So far my 2mg legit does seem better than the supposed 3mgs i got
online.. but i am doubling up on that now to see how the effect will
be..



Anyone else?

[burnout278]

I've tried the 3mg tabs and it seemed to work well as far as sleeping
straight for 6-8 hours. One night I took 6mgs worth and the next day I
was feeling dazied all day long.

I would rather have ambien 10mg worth.

Just my 2 cents.

[burnout278]

I've tried Lunesta. I've tried a total of 6mgs in one night. Its
nothing like an Ambien effect. Lunesta will help you sleep but not make
you feel like your on a Ambien buzz.

[~lostgurl~]

SWIM has swapped stories on the 2 meds online and from what she can tell the buzz is very similar ambien.

[jesusfreak666er]

i really wanna get my hands on some lunesta... just to experiment with it, does it produce the same "hallucination" like effects as ambien if u take a high dose and stay up on it... though they arent as much hallucinations as distortions and delerium. but im gonna try and get my hands on some sounds fun!

[korky8097]

well my friend was on it for a while. He described it as just kinda slightly weird, not really too much like ambein. And he said, "the commercial says unpleasant taste, but what they mean is a terrible taste like you ate shit that lasts for the entire next day" Havent tried it personally though.

[788.4]

In a study of abuse liability conducted in individuals with known histories of benzodiazepine abuse, eszopiclone at doses of 6 and 12 mg produced euphoric effects similar to those of diazepam 20 mg. In this study, at doses 2-fold or greater than the maximum recommended doses, a dose-related increase in reports of amnesia and hallucinations was observed for both

I'd like to meet the "individuals with known histories of benzodiazepine abuse". Being on 6 to 12mg of eszopicolone (Lunesta) is nothing like being on 20mg of diazepam.

A friend of mine took 9mg. He told me he got a really weird buzz from it that was more annoying than pleasant. He could walk and talk completly normally on 9mg and did not report feeling tired at all.

He woke up the next morning feeling really hazy (almost like a hangover) and had an "unpleasant taste" that lasted nearly the whole day. He concluded it had no recreational value and threw out the rest of the bottle.

Stick with Ambien.

[fnord]

swim tried lunesta and it did nothing except sleep, however ambien,swim had 'trippy' expierences with ambien a few times on 20mg and then swim vomited it up and stopped 'trippin' immeadietly everytime

[pharmapsyche]

There are conflicting responses to this post. One member wrote that Lunesta was indeed like the Ambien buzz while others reported the exact opposite. I'm sorta confused. I've never tried Lunesta and I am certainly curious to know how it compares to Ambien. I think I'd have a better understanding of eszopiclone if someone could compare it with the sleep aid zaleplon. Is it anything like zaleplon (Sonata)?

[berserker850]

i was prescribed lunesta for sleep problems and i had to stop taking it because of the horrible taste that just lingered

[MrMouse]

Zolpidem (Ambien, Stilnox) although a Hypnotic is chemically dis-similar to Zopiclone (Zimovane, Imovane) and the stereo-isomer Eszopiclone (Lunesta).

Effectively Eszopiclone is simply twice the strength (mg for mg) of Zopiclone and unrelated to Zolpidem.

It's been recorded clinically and by subjective experience that Zolpidem (Ambien) may/can cause hallucinations however there is no evidence Zopiclone/Eszopiclone does. Edit: Spoke to someone recently who assures me Zopiclone caused hallucinations akin to a Zolpidem experience

Subjectively speaking having used both Zolpidem and Zopiclone (prescribed) ... they are useful sleep aids but otherwise amnesia in a blister pack.

Stay away they have little to no recreational value YMMV.

[blondie8734]

SWIM took lunesta ( not sure how much) and ended up in the emergency room. When i went to visit her, she was talking crazyyyy. Talking like she had major cotton mouth and was delirious. Didn't know what month or where she was.

[MrMouse]

That's certainly one of the problems with the Zzz group of Hypnotics. If you use them recreationaly you must hide the remaining stash.

SWIM tried Zopiclone once recreationaly and woke the next morning with the house a total disaster area with no clue how it happened and also that SWIM had munched through a whole blister pack. The idea was to take 4 but SWIM had eaten about 16. Not clever

Edit: It wasn't me it was swim

[AchaeaPerson]

SWIM got ahold of a prescription for Lunesta(eszopiclone) and is trying to find out if it has any recreational value. He's heard before that it didn't, but he wanted to find out for himself and post it.
3 at 6:00PM 3 - 6mg
2 at 6:50PM 5 - 10mg
2 at 7:30PM 7 - 14mg
3 at 8:30PM 10 - 20mg
3 at 9:00PM 13 - 26mg
Each pill was 2mg btw, so SWIM had a total of 13 pills, 26mg, over the course of three hours.

He took them in bed, playing WoW, then once it hit him, around 9:45 I'd guess; He got up and walked around, noticing that if the lighting was low, it looked like everything in the room was moving very slightly. Like there was a pair of boxers on the floor that looked like it kept rolling in and around itself, but when he turned the lights on, it mostly went away.Also he apparently spoke with his grandparents, and fixed his moms internet, but after only a few hours, he doesn't remember these things at all, and had to be reminded by a friend that was here to sit, just in case something unexpected happened.

It's 11:00 now, and he has a very slight euphoria/buzz, and his motor skills are messed up slightly; stumbling, etc. but nowhere near as bad as they were before.

Only side affect would be this amnesia bit. He guesses he took to much, or maybe he should be taking a lower dosage all at once, instead of every half hour.

What do you guys think? And especially, is it better to take the entire dose all at once, or spread apart? And what sort of dosage would SWIY suggest if it's done all at once?

Oh, and SWIM did some calculations, and he may have taken 14, not 13. Altogether that's 28mg

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[Jatelka]

Thankyou for SWIY's report. The whole "SWIM" thing was fairly intermittent though SWIJ has edited: But please bear this in mind for the future.

[AchaeaPerson]

Ah darn! Sorry, SWIM'll be more careful in the future, on a separate, totally bizarre note:

Starting like 15 minutes ago he's having really intense open eyed visuals, like seeing people and things and all sorts of crazy shit floating around and changing into different things, but it only works in the pitch black, if all the lights are on, it just looks like everything is kinda, he doesn't know... Twitching around, like he said earlier in the experience report. He's not sure if this is still the Lunesta or something else. Anyone with answers? Very bizarre, very awesome.

[AchaeaPerson]

SWIY's wish is SWIJ's command (on this occasion anyway).

She respectfully suggests that posting on the internet while tripping one's balls off may not be the best idea

[AchaeaPerson]

This is also pretty weird; in pitch black SWIMs visuals are pretty significant, like shit flying around, reaching out at him, really cool. If it's dimly lighted he can see some things, but nothing flying around or anything dramatic, and with the full lights on, all he can see are the twitching and squirming of the walls and everything. Is it normal for visuals to work this way?

Edit:

So it's the morning now and SWIM can only remember bits and pieces of last night (although he can definitely remember all the visuals!) but he's still thinking lunesta has some recreational potential. He's getting some coke today (finally!) and some tramadol tomorrow, but he'll definitely expirement with lunesta dosages to see if he can find a point where you get buzzed and trip, but don't have any amnesia.
Wish him luck!

And if anyone's interested in this, then post, because I have no idea if this stuff is interesting to anyone on the forum, or just a waste of time.

[rollerzcoasterz]

I actually have a legit Lunesta script (imagine that ) and it really only helps me sleep. I have used Ambien as well and find that mush "more fun". I would not really say either is worth purchasing unless you have trouble falling asleep. Just my 2 cents.

[Fantasian]

I didnt realise this Eszopiclone produced CEV? Is this because of the dosage causing delirant type effects?

[AchaeaPerson]

Hmm, SWIA doesn't know, he told me he was tripping pretty hardcore. I think that you're probably right about it being more effective as a sleep aid. I have a legit prescription though, and I don't take it for sleep every night, so I'll probably try out this Zopitrip (aren't I cool for coming up with a nifty phrase) thing once a month or so. They were OEV, but it had to be pitch black for them to get really intense, so I suppose it's about the same as CEV. If the room was dimly lit, like with a low watt bulb, SWIA would see things that were almost like wireframe models of things, but very faint. And even in bright light, everything squirmed, which got to be kinda creepy after a while.

[Fantasian]

This is strange, in SWIFantasian's experience he has only experienced two types of hallucination. That accociated with mushrooms, LSD and mescaline which one can see definate shapes and patterns but is aware that they are not real and generally quite enjoys the visuals. And that of Cyclizine a deliriant which produces realistic scary visuals which cannot be seperated from reality. (and DXM and Ket but they were somewhere imbetween)

This experience sounds much more like the former i think i'm going to do some research on this and SWIY's experience.

[AchaeaPerson]

SWIA told me that it reminded him of highish doses of DXM. Both DXM and Lunestas visuals are much more intense in the dark, and barely noticable in the light. He told me that at the peak of the trip, he was seeing people, objects, other crazy things, and even entire landscapes at one point. It was slightly scary at times; a few times he'd see something dark lunge at him, or something similar, but he could just turn on the lights and take a moment to compose himself.

[DrMuffy]

SWIM has tried Zopiclone recreationally, and for insomnia. And in his opinion it is really only good for the latter. It can cause effects somewhat like benzos, but really only at higher doses (8-12) mg. SWIM has also had numerous experiences with zopidem (ambien) and zaleplon (sonata), and lunesta is nothing like them.