What do you think about OPANA ER/oxymorphone?

[motherlove1973]

I have been prescribed OPANA ER for pain and have heard how it is so much stronger than oxycontin (at least 2 times stronger). I am not sure if I like it or not yet and wanted to know if anyone else had any experiences good or bad with it.

[pixplzthx]

I have not tried Opana ER and neither has anyone on this site regardless of perscription.

Please read the rules regard self-incrimination. Nobody on this site does drugs.

However, I do know someone who isn't me and they have a few substances under their belt.

[YellowViolet]

Originally Posted by pixplzthx

I have not tried Opana ER and neither has anyone on this site regardless of perscription.

Please read the rules regard self-incrimination. Nobody on this site does drugs.

However, I do know someone who isn't me and they have a few substances under their belt.

I guess this is why this SWIM (new poster) isn't getting replies to her posts.

[motherlove1973]

What is swim? I do not understand. Is it in the rule area? Could you help me out please cause I am new and really want to learn. Thanks.

motherlove1973 added 1 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...

ooooooh, I am soooooo slow. I know some one who isn't me too, they are totally crazt aren't they?? Lol/ Thanks and I .I mean swim got it.

[AddyCrazy]

SWIM personally hasn't had any experience with it but has seen numerous swimmers mention how it is pretty much the top of ladder and some even find it better than heroin. Same goes hydromorphone too

[motherlove1973]

Huh, SWIM cant seem to find much info on it on this site. Thanks though.

[MEKONE]

SWIM is currently scripted 10mg IR Opana and he absolutely LOVES them.They work GREAT for BT. PN. and also provide that extra "kick".As for the ER's,in SWIM's oppinion they work but don't really last as long as they are supposed to when taken oraly,however they work VERY WELL when the IR's are prescribed along with them.

[duke9011]

SWIM was switched over to Opana both ER and IR after trying Percocet, Diluadid, and about 6 other non narcotic meds for his unexplainable abdominal pain. The Opana has helped SWIM so much more than any of the other ones. His pain is under so much better control. SWIM can finally function without being curled up in pain all day. It took about a month for SWIM's body to get used to the drug and get over the nausea but it is most definitely worth it in SWIM's opinion. And although SWIM doesn't really abuse his meds(he'll occasionally take 1 or 2 more than he's supposed to when he's having a bad day) he does find the Opana more euphorigenic than the Percocet or Dilaudid.

[motherlove1973]

Swim understands that a lot of other swimmers like them a lot. Swim has been getting weird feelings from them and did throw up one time, but that was after a night of heavy drinking. The nausea goes away after about a month? SWIM hopes so because she cant take it much longer.

[YellowViolet]

Originally Posted by duke9011

SWIM was switched over to Opana both ER and IR after trying Percocet, Diluadid, and about 6 other non narcotic meds for his unexplainable abdominal pain. The Opana has helped SWIM so much more than any of the other ones. His pain is under so much better control. SWIM can finally function without being curled up in pain all day. It took about a month for SWIM's body to get used to the drug and get over the nausea but it is most definitely worth it in SWIM's opinion. And although SWIM doesn't really abuse his meds(he'll occasionally take 1 or 2 more than he's supposed to when he's having a bad day) he does find the Opana more euphorigenic than the Percocet or Dilaudid.

Does SWI Duke take them whole? What mg does he/she take to get the relief he does? SWIM is taking 40 mg and sometimes chews a small piece to get some IR for immediate help with pain. Does anyone know if urine test can detect that swim is not swallowing it whole as prescribed?

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by uwllv88

Does SWI Duke take them whole? What mg does he/she take to get the relief he does? SWIM is taking 40 mg and sometimes chews a small piece to get some IR for immediate help with pain. Does anyone know if urine test can detect that swim is not swallowing it whole as prescribed?

As for a urine screen, the only think they can test for is the metabolites of the drug. They cannot determine the route of administration. It would show up exactly the same if one IV'ed it verse taking it orally.

[deltakappamuMD]

Oxymorphone has an interesting history in the US and it was actually introduced in this country many decades ago...but only as an IV medication. Due to the multitude of other pain killers that were developed it lost popularity largely because it proved to be way too addictive. It fell off the medical spotlight for a few decades and has just recently been reintroduced not as an IV medication but, oddly, as an oral IR and ER med. This is odd because the reason it was never released orally in the first place was because it has horrible oral absorption characteristics. I mean terrible. This drug is dangerous for many reasons. One is that if someone wants to inject it, it doesn't dissolve well in water (forms gel) and that the injection dosage is WAYYYY lower than the oral dosage. Therefore if someone injects their 10mg IR tab they are probably going to OD. Another hazard is the consumption as others have state of alcohol with this medication. The pharmacokinetics with and without alcohol consumption are astounding. Alcohol with oxymorphone could also cause someone to OD easily as it markedly increases the bioavailability in the gut.

[Herbal Healer 019]

Well from what SWIM reads on erowid & other DF users experiences with oxymorphone, SWIM thinks he wants some...

[YellowViolet]

Originally Posted by Herbal Healer 019

Well from what SWIM reads on erowid & other DF users experiences with oxymorphone, SWIM thinks he wants some...

SWIM only has the ER Opana but they're 40 mg - does any other swiy's think that if swim bites a small piece off and lets it melt it would be like getting a small dose of IR and then swallow the rest (say 3/4) -? Since Swim is between pain clinics there's no way she can get any IR's and the ERs just aren't doing it by themselves.

[motherlove1973]

Swim does bite her ER's in half,only because they take so long to kick in. Swims doc said that it takes a good month for your body to regulate them, why swim is not sure?? Swim actuall felt as though she was going through withdrawals for the first week and a half when she was first prescribed them and she feels moody and really has a short fuse with the people in her life at the moment, she really hopes this goes away.Swim is really thinking about beiung knocked down to oxycontin because she feels that they made her mood much better and gave her a lot more energy. Swim is just worried that since she has been taking these opana, that she may not feel the same on the oxycontin as she did before. Does any other swimmers have suggestions to wheteher she should switch back or should she stay with the opana for a few more weeks?? She does have Degenerative disc and fibromyalgia and needs some form of pain management, but honestly she is addicted to pain meds and hates them.

[Picass035]

Taking Opana ER along with strong alcoholic spirits has shown to increase bio-availability from 8% (orally) to as high as 60%!! SWIM doesn't remember the exact amount of alcohol one would need to drink, but either way be VERY careful if SWIYou plans on doing this.

Insufflating them seems to work rather well too. With an increased bio-availability of +/- 60-70%.

[motherlove1973]

yeah,swim drank quite a bit one night with 2 friends(who do not take opiates on a regular basis) with whom she shared some oxycodone with. The next day they all threw up a lot and felt horrible. She said she wont ever do that again.

[Daytona71]

Originally Posted by Picass035

Taking Opana ER along with strong alcoholic spirits has shown to increase bio-availability from 8% (orally) to as high as 60%!! SWIM doesn't remember the exact amount of alcohol one would need to drink, but either way be VERY careful if SWIYou plans on doing this.

Insufflating them seems to work rather well too. With an increased bio-availability of +/- 60-70%.

Please correct the bioavailable dosages. You are saying this Opana is only 8% bio-availableorally, do you have a link for that? THEN ALCOHOL AND OPIATES CAN BE DEADLY AS SWIMLOST A FRIND TOTHAT ACTIVITY-PERMANENTLY. Insufflating increases the bio-availability by plus or minus 60-70%. 60-70% of WHAT? The 8% orally? That would be about nothing. Hydromorphone is 33% orally and 51% insufflated, a 50% increase insufflated over oral doses. So, again, please correct the insufflated over the oral dose.
SWIM is about to exchange 90mgs.of Methadone and 96mgs. of hydromorphone(Dilaudid) for oxymorphone, Opana, both ER and IR. The doses are daily. SWIM doeosnotknow the new meds doses but would expect them to be similar to the others, probably 60-80mgs. of ER daily and 50mgs. of IR daily to start. Opinions on dosages and effectiveness of the trade from what SWIM has and will have?

[Picass035]

The only reason it says that is because drinking alcohol increases the drug's bio-availability. And of course if bio-availability increases, your body will be getting a lot more of the drug than was intended. It's all a question of tolerance really.

[returntozero]

wow swidaytona that is a lot of oxymorphone to take in one day

[Johnny_X]

SWIY should just snort it.. Very euphoric and no needles.

[thebige]

have to chime in on this thread..................did anyswim have profuse sweating from this drug or was it just swim?

[Johnny_X]

Absolutely.. most opiates do that.. especially the stronger ones.

[kasbeq]

Ok swim could be wrong as he does not know how methadone is prescribed for pain management.
He was on methadone maintenance after a long H addiction its usually prescribed once a day.
120 mg methadone, apart from taking ones withdrawals, also blocks the euphoric rush from heroin if one decides to take it.
This is the main reason why swim finds the prescription as odd ,because if you take 120 mg of methadone it will probably block the rest of the opiate painkillers
On second thoughts swim could be wrong again

[Johnny_X]

Originally Posted by kasbeq

Ok swim could be wrong as he does not know how methadone is prescribed for pain management.
He was on methadone maintenance after a long H addiction its usually prescribed once a day.
120 mg methadone, apart from taking ones withdrawals, also blocks the euphoric rush from heroin if one decides to take it.
This is the main reason why swim finds the prescription as odd ,because if you take 120 mg of methadone it will probably block the rest of the opiate painkillers
On second thoughts swim could be wrong again

SWIM is so grateful for the responses and discussion here.

SWIM will definitely go without the methadone for a few days.

SWIM doesn't know why, but when euphoric, pain is much more tolerable..

If the methadone is blocking euphoria SWIM should be much more comfortable whether it's the physical effect of the oxymorphone or the psychological effect of euphoria...

We shall see anyway..