Combinations - Tramadol,Glue,Cannabis and Caffetine=LSD

[Mesaja]

So,swim and his friend were using this combination last month and its mindblowing.
First,swims take tramadol,about 500mg,drink a coup of coffee,for the pills to kick in fast,and then,swims smokes about one gram of weed(high quality).
This combination is beatyfull,it makes a fuckin bliss.
The opiate makes you feel nice,and the weed,takes it even further.
In the end,you sniff the glue,and halucinate very much.
The halucinations are very profound and it last for about 40 minutes.
Did anyone on this forum hve tryed this?

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Irresponsible behaviour

[lineartransform]

"Our understanding of the literature is that there is no such thing as safe use of most volatile solvents, aerosols or other street inhalants : their psychoactive effects may be inseparable from nerve and organ damage."

This is not equivalent to LSD, and is rather dangerous.

Just buy some LSD, and stop ruining SWIY's brain.

[honourableone]

I am very surprised that someone who knows about tramadol and has access to it would resort to the low, dangerous, child's high of sniffing glue.The rest would be a very nice combination, but glue is always a bad idea. I would be willing to bet a lot of money that you have never tried LSD, comparing it to sniffing glue is preposterous in SWIM's opinion.

[Mesaja]

Hahaha...
I`m not comparing it with LSD,i know its far from it,but its just a name for this combo.
I know glue is a fucked up thing,but i wanted to try it,because i`ve never done it in my childhood,so why not doing it now.
I did have tryed magic mushrooms,several times,and i know how hallucinogens works.
What do u mean with having an access to Tramadol and knowing about it?
Is that good of a drug for you?
Dont understand

Mesaja added 1 Minutes and 2 Seconds later...

What i mean is,everyone here knows about Tramadol,and have access to it,even now,when it became a prescription medicine.

[AddyCrazy]

Replace glue with nitrous and that's getting close to ketamine to say the least plus little to no brain damage is pretty nice. Opiates + nitrous = pure bliss

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mad good advice, your helping to keep the op alive longer!

[Herbal Healer 019]

tramadol is known to cause seizures in combination with other drugs & even on its own without warning.

The glue is just simply retarded. Its not a high, nor is it psychedelic. The "high" is actually your brain being deprived of oxgyen & being replaced with dangerously toxic chemicals. Everytime you huff glue your putting yourself at risk of death & if you don't your internal organs almost certainly have taken a beating.

Most recreational drugs are not in anyway toxic to the body (except smoke & certain other chems), but glue is nothing but toxic.

Stay away from the glue, its a trend created by prohibition & is almost as retarded as jenkem aka butt hash/ ass gas. Dont b a tard, especially considering SWIY has access to opiates & other drugs which are much safer than huffing volatile solvents

[Mesaja]

OK,OK,dont have to be so nervous about it.
Swim only tryed it once,its not like he is addicted to glue(you propably cant even get addicted to it,right?).
Swims not doing it again,promise.
He is sticking with tramadol and cannabis.
Cant find nitrous here,so...
Anyway,i`m hoping to order salvia from XXXX next month and try it for the first time.
Any pointers about set and setting?
Should i be alone?
What about music?

Mesaja added 1 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

By the way,Tramadol does cause seuzures,but only in very high doses(like 2000mgs).
In a normal does,its a very nice experience,you are talkative and feeling nice under your skin.
But,its addictive though.

[honourableone]

I'm happy that you won't do glue again. I don't even consider it to be a drug at all, and it's definitely not worth worrying that you've missed out on it. In SWIMs opinion Tramadol can be an amazing drug with responsible use. Just make sure you don't go too high, have breaks, and read up on everything you try.

Originally Posted by Mesaja

Anyway,i`m hoping to order salvia from Azarius next month and try it for the first time.
Should i be alone?

You forgot to use SWIM here.

[crackcityrocker]

Originally Posted by Mesaja

By the way,Tramadol does cause seuzures,but only in very high doses(like 2000mgs).

swim has had a seizure on ~750mg of tramadol (and tramadol alone).

[Mesaja]

Originally Posted by crackcityrocker

swim has had a seizure on ~750mg of tramadol (and tramadol alone).

It depends somethimes.
750 is still a high dose,taken all at once.
If swiy havent eaten or sleep well,its more probable even a lighter doses to cause seizure.
Also,if that was your first time trying it,its most likely to have a seizure.
You have to bulit up tolerance,than to take 750mg.
My personal best is 24/50mg pills(1200mg),and i didnt have any problems than.
But in other case,i took 500mg(10 pills),and i had a seizure,just because i didnt had any sleep the night before.

Mesaja added 1 Minutes and 13 Seconds later...

SHIT,i forgot to use swim again.
Sorry

[honourableone]

If you had a seizure at one dose, you really shouldn't take more than that. You has a seizure at 500mg and did it again? Having a decent nights sleep doesn't seem like an excuse to me. I don't want to come off as bullying you or anything, but if SWIM needs to take more than 300mg of tramadol he knows his tolerance is getting too high and he has a break. You are both talking about taking ridiculously high doses in SWIM's opinion.

[crackcityrocker]

Originally Posted by Mesaja

It depends somethimes.
750 is still a high dose,taken all at once.
If swiy havent eaten or sleep well,its more probable even a lighter doses to cause seizure.
Also,if that was your first time trying it,its most likely to have a seizure.
You have to bulit up tolerance,than to take 750mg.
My personal best is 24/50mg pills(1200mg),and i didnt have any problems than.
But in other case,i took 500mg(10 pills),and i had a seizure,just because i didnt had any sleep the night before.

Mesaja added 1 Minutes and 13 Seconds later...

SHIT,i forgot to use swim again.
Sorry

i was only trying to say that implying taking less than 2000mg of tramadol should be relatively safe is unsafe.

[Mesaja]

Salvia is legal here in Macedonia,thats way swim doesnt use that word in the sentence.
So,can swiy explain swim something about it?
And yes,Tramadol is a very nice social drug.
But somethimes,under depresion or shit like that,people tend to abuse it.

[honourableone]

Because laws in different countries vary, and they can't always be checket etc. SWIM is used to talk about using any substance, whether legal or not. Just err on the side of caution.

There is a whole section about Salvia under "Ethnobotanicals" in the forum, you should find everything you could need to know there, and and as always the search engine is your friend.

Basic things you need to know about Salvia -

Always have a sitter, at least untill you know how much salvia affects you and how much you can stay in control. They will be especially usefeul for taking away the lighter and pipe, in SWIM's opinion (you don't want to get burned)

Have a good set and setting like with any hallucinogen

Use a pipe or a bong (joints don't work too well) and prefferable a turbo/jet lighter. the smoke may be uncomfortable hot if you use a pipe, but SWIM finds it bearable.

Hold the smoke in for 30 seconds after each hit so it begins to work



I think you should read up on some experience reports to get an idea of what you could experience. You will probably find them very interesting anyway.

[testodan]

Originally Posted by Mesaja

Salvia is legal here in Macedonia,thats way swim doesnt use that word in the sentence.

From which city are you from btw?

[Mesaja]

Thats been said from swims experience.
Seizure only happened once,before a year ago,so its not that big of a deal.
After that,swim has took even higher doses than 500mg,but nothing similar ever occur.
So,swim figured this has something to do with the state of his body that day.
Swim remembers that he hasnt got a good night sleep and this and nothing else must be the reason,because when swim doesnt sleep well at night,he is very fucked up the next day.

[Mesaja]

The capital-Skopje.
Whats your opinion about our name,as a Greek citizen?
Do you hate us as macedonians?

[testodan]

Originally Posted by Mesaja

The capital-Skopje.
Whats your opinion about our name,as a Greek citizen?
Do you hate us as macedonians?

Personally speaking only,
I do not hate anyone,but you should know that Macedonia is a part of Greece which contains a specific number of cities and doesn't exceed Greece's boundary.


Back to the topic of course,I have gone up to 1000mg Tramadol.In this dose noticed a hangover.800-900 mg were great.I have to mention though,I was on kratom 4-7 days/week and my opiate tolerance increased,maybe if i wasn't taking kratom lower Tramadol doses should have good effect instead of high like 900mg.BTW it was SR and always had a benzo on hand..
Tramadol+cannabis good combo.Also alcohol was a good addition too.

Stopped using any opiate drug and/or kratom.Opiate type substances give me a lot of euphoria..that was the reason I quited ..

[Alfa]

Please stay on topic.

[Mesaja]

OK.
Swim is sorry.
I`ll stick to the topic from now on.
Peace.

[someone111]

swiy can also have seizures from tramadol and not even notice it.. swim has been addicted to tramadol for years and knows from experience that a seizure can happen at anytime on high doses of tramadol..... any dose above 400mg can cause a seizure even if you have never had a seizure in your life..... just be careful, swiy wouldnt want to fuck their body up forever because of a drug..... because of the seizures swim has had, he has realy bad memory problems and has fucked up the disk in his back..... tramadol is a wonderful drug, just be safe and dont over do..... trust swim... swim knows that most of swiys will still continue to take high doses, but just remember, it will catch up to swiy..... and do not mix drugs with tramadol!!!!

[Scifan1]

you can find Nitrous oxide, no2, in any cooking supply store. they sell the liitle "whip it" containers, like the same size you would put in a BB gun, but those are co2. THe nitrous is used in a whip cream maker, that can b used to fill balloons, that is much better the GLUE. GLUE is stupid, I think it is worse then shooting drugs. You can also get Medical Grade Nitrous in the same size containers from the web. And by the way, tramadol doesn't have any opiate in it, I have chronic pain issues and I asked my doctor. so try some REAL opiates, +pot+nitrous, and then you'll really enjoy life. sorry to de a downer to SWIMS buzz.

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[Mesaja]

And by the way, tramadol doesn't have any opiate in it, I have chronic pain issues and I asked my doctor.

That why its so addictive?
And why the effects are the same like with any opiate?

[honourableone]

Tramadol is an opiate. Ignore him.