Purity - How can you find what the purity of GHB is?

[Alfa]

What actions can one take to find out if liquid GHB is pure or not?

I know that one could test the PH level, with PH strips. What else should one do?
Do smell, colour give any indications?

[MrG]

It should be a clear mainly odourless solution with a very salty taste. If added to a glass of cold water it should barely register a taste other than saline. Although if added to a soda or fruit drink it can taste distinctly odd, as would chucking a handful of salt in these drinks is likely to.

One of the things that could be done is to pass it through a charcoal filter (Brita water filter) if one is concerned about contaminants.

Do not forget that liquid NaGHB is actually NaGHB diluted in a solution, usually H2O as NaGHB is actually a solid at room temp. This means that any third-party produced NaGHB may be of unknown purity and or dilution ratio.

One way to be sure is to take it back to a solid by putting it in a pan and boiling all the H2O out. This can be achieved by aiming to get it to 150c, something that can take some time as only once most of the water is evaporated will it actually reach that temperature. It is likely only to need a few minutes at 150c, once there, before the H2O is sufficiently removed.

At that point it is molten NaGHB and very, very hot! It can be poured out onto a metal oven tray and allowed to cool and harden. It should not be left too long uncovered as it will start to absorb moisture from the air.

Once hard it can be stored in a tupperware container and diluted as needed by weighing the amount required, placing said amount in a measuring jug and topping up to the ratio needed e.g. 100g placed in jug and topped up to the 500ml mark with hot water (best to use hot water to dissolve it) will give a ratio of 1g of NaGHB per 5ml of solution.

This solution should be coloured blue with food colouring to avoid accidental ingestion.

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great information on GHB...you really know your shit

[BBer rec user]

SWIM put there liquid G (61 grams) in the oven set to 300 F (~150 C) for about 45 minutes in an effort to evaluate the concentration. SWIW then put it in the refrigerator to cool. When removed from the fridge the G had turned into a solid gel type substance that was yellow in color. It was reduced to about 18 to 20 grams of gel. When it was diluted with water it turned into a yellow colored water. It was clear to begin with. SWIM want to know what that means? Is it burned? Was it GHB to begin with? IS it still safe to consume or is it trash?

[MrG]

Sheesh, these questions should be in the GHB chem section!

I'll keep this thread here for now but please, will people try and read more of the GHB chem threads before bombarding this forum with "SWIM's done this to his G and then this happened, what does it mean?" questions.

45 minutes at 150c probably isn't going to do SWIY's G any favours. The H2O boil off should be done in a pan, on the hob, while stirring. Once at 150c there is not going to be much H2O remaining so it would only need a few minutes at that temp usually.

As I have written repeatedly NaGHB is very hygroscopic, this means that it will absorb moisture from the air. Putting it in the fridge to cool is entirely unnecessary and will likely make it absorb water again from the cool, moist air. Using some cling film to seal the baking tray helps to minimise air absorbtion whilst waiting for it to cool.

It certainly should not be like a Gel BTW !

Solid NaGHB has a consistency similar to soap/candle-wax and should be, ideally, white or ivory in colour. Yellow is usually a sign that it has been made with tap water instead of dH2O but it could be due to other contaminants.

I am concerned that some of these questions are starting to sound like "pill id" threads when it comes to asking what's wrong with SWIM's G.

The TEK's and the stickies in the GHB and GHB Chem forum should cover pretty much all bases in this regard.

[techhnyne]

Originally Posted by MrG

Sheesh, these questions should be in the GHB chem section!

I'll keep this thread here for now but please, will people try and read more of the GHB chem threads before bombarding this forum with "SWIM's done this to his G and then this happened, what does it mean?" questions.

45 minutes at 150c probably isn't going to do SWIY's G any favours. The H2O boil off should be done in a pan, on the hob, while stirring. Once at 150c there is not going to be much H2O remaining so it would only need a few minutes at that temp usually.

As I have written repeatedly NaGHB is very hygroscopic, this means that it will absorb moisture from the air. Putting it in the fridge to cool is entirely unnecessary and will likely make it absorb water again from the cool, moist air. Using some cling film to seal the baking tray helps to minimise air absorbtion whilst waiting for it to cool.

It certainly should not be like a Gel BTW !

Solid NaGHB has a consistency similar to soap/candle-wax and should be, ideally, white or ivory in colour. Yellow is usually a sign that it has been made with tap water instead of dH2O but it could be due to other contaminants.

I am concerned that some of these questions are starting to sound like "pill id" threads when it comes to asking what's wrong with SWIM's G.

The TEK's and the stickies in the GHB and GHB Chem forum should cover pretty much all bases in this regard.

CHem section is locked noone can post there tell the site admin

[GHBITE]

i dont think the chem section is locked i think you need a certain amount of posts 10 i think and i think silver membership which you get by being repped if i remember corretly (from the faqs)

[MrG]

In the words of The Fonz - Correct-a-mundo.

[techhnyne]

can someone rep me so i could post there then? i have 10 posts and i still cant post there

techhnyne added 4 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

what is weird is that others who have posted in that forum have low post counts and no reps yet were able to create threads and reply

[GHBITE]

they may have donated