Experiences - taking lsd and going to bed

[Macee]

Swim is just curious if swiy has ever taken LSD and gone to sleep before the effects came into play.

did swiy get intense dreams or visuals? or did swiy wake up in the middle and continued on the trip? or did dwiy just wake up the next day feeling fine and maybe a little amount of the 'comedown' effects.

[fnord]

One time when i was dreaming i traveled back in time to when LSD was legal and tried this -i just ended up waking up after an hour and a half. I'm sure others have had differing experiences.


Sadly im a light sleeper.

[Jatelka]

Sleeping on LSD is impossible for the pink bird (and, she imagines for the vast majority of her psycehedelic flock mates)

Even before the visual aspect comes into play there are the heightened mental sensations/anticipation and slight bodily stimulation (which starts to kick in at about T 00.30, making successfully dropping off impossible

[humdroid]

Originally Posted by Macee

Swim is just curious if swiy has ever taken LSD and gone to sleep before the effects came into play.

did swiy get intense dreams or visuals? or did swiy wake up in the middle and continued on the trip? or did dwiy just wake up the next day feeling fine and maybe a little amount of the 'comedown' effects.

Y took LSD and settled down into the bed in my tent to chill.
Next thing Y knew, he was waking up.
He had taken LSD the day before, so he put it down to tolerance.
He did trip for a few hours after waking though.

[Ohheyitsme]

Are the effects reduced if you take it then sleep, or does it just wake you up when it kicks in with full effects like MDMA?

[guldenat]

Originally Posted by Ohheyitsme

Are the effects reduced if you take it then sleep, or does it just wake you up when it kicks in with full effects like MDMA?

Swim knows the queen of his ant farm was given LSD while she was sleeping. In about an hour she woke up thoroughly confused... the effects were in full swing.

[gmeziscool2354]

very interesting humdriod. I have never heard of anything like this. is SWIY a heavy LSD user? maybe SWIY has developed some new or modified enzyme that allows for rapid breakdown of LSD
Swim met a guy once who said that his favorite way to drop was to wake up, put his tabs in his mouth and go back to sleep. he said he would wake up as soon as he started tripping. he also recomended this for morning glory seeds

swims enjoys comming up so would not personally try this tho

[drug-bot]

proberly be able to nap after one doses but before the acid takes effect, but once it hits swim bets it'll wake the deepest sleeper up. lsd tends to have a very stimulating quality, even when the trip ends it takes awhile for swim to sleep, that is without additional chemical aid.

if one reallly wants to see if one can sleep through a trip swim would suggest high levels of potent benzodiazapines, or high/safe doses of barbituates(if ones lucky enough to still find barbs). think of it as a druggie science experience.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Thad mad hippie on youtube said he got acid droped in his mouth when he was asleep and he woke up trippn.

[humdroid]

Take LSD and go to bed
Travel far and wide, inside your head,
more comfortable to open upto your hidden self
Ultimately a good thing for spiritual wealth

By the Bedbound tripper

[EyesOfTheWorld]

A long time ago SWIM was following Phish around the country, and he, being the drug fiend he was, ate a good handful of Rohypnol, chased with whiskey, and apparantly sought out a friend to dose him properly (20 or more drops of liquid). He woke up 10 hours later in a hotel room surrounded by people he had never seen before, fully tripping. Apparantly he had collapsed in the parking lot, and this group of people made the (correct) assumption that he was going to the next show, and they put him in their bus. He had no idea why he was tripping until it was explained to him that night.
Another tour, same swim.........late night, in a hotel, bored, he eats 5 hits, figuring to stay up and watch the sunrise, perhaps be the driver for his hungover friends, etc. All the rigors of travel, plus the alcohol and benzos he had been consuming, wore down on him and he fell asleep. He did have interesting dreams, giant robot anime with fractal backgrounds and such, but woke up sober as Christ by the next morning. 5 hits of extremely high-grade fluff, and he went to sleep. He put it off to tolerance (on tour, one tends to dose daily) and just being tired.

[lineartransform]

Read the book "Zen and the Brain".

There is a summary of an experiment where subjects were given small doses of LSD before sleeping. This was found to drastically decrease the time taken to get to REM sleep, and drastically increased the duration of REM sleep. There appears to be a correlation between these two activities.

The doses were ~50 mcg IIRC, small enough that the subjects remained asleep the entire time. SWIM will try to get the name of the paper.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	good info, regarding the study/book done on small dose lsd and its effects on sleep
	Thanks for the book recommendation - looks interesting

[Greenport]

Wonder what would happen if someone were given a hit while already sleeping

(How would you tell the difference between the dream world, and the real world? )

[Metomni]

Penguin has tried this many times and half-way succeeded several times, but no real breakthrough experiences. He imagines true success is pretty weird upon waking up.

[guldenat]

Originally Posted by ComfortablyNumb

Thad mad hippie on youtube said he got acid droped in his mouth when he was asleep and he woke up trippn.

Yup... in this case the Mad Hippy was the Queen of my Ant Farm.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

Originally Posted by Jatelka

Sleeping on LSD is impossible for the pink bird (and, she imagines for the vast majority of her psycehedelic flock mates)

Even before the visual aspect comes into play there are the heightened mental sensations/anticipation and slight bodily stimulation (which starts to kick in at about T 00.30, making successfully dropping off impossible

SWIM finds that the stimulation can even start slightly sooner than that.

I think that the only way that this would work is if someone dosed SWIY in his sleep.

[lineartransform]

"Low doses of LSD (n = 12, 6–40 μg p.o.) immediately
applied before or 1 h after sleep onset lead (in a dose dependent
manner) to a prolongation of the first or second
rapid eye movement (REM) periods by 30–240% and
a shortening of following periods. Eye movements during
these periods are less numerous. Total REM sleep is
prolonged. No qualitative changes in sleep as measured
on EEG have been found [80]. Torda [81] infused LSD
(n = 2, 5 μg i.v./hour) after the start of the third REM
period and found that the beginning of the fourth REM
period began after 10–15 min, instead of the usual 40–
60 min. Theta activity was decreased in this study. Sleep
deprivation prior to LSD application leads to more intense
psychological reactions [82,83]."

[Jatelka]

^^^ The name of the paper, authors and journal are needed for this please, otherwise your monkey could have made it up!

(ie reference things properly)

[lineartransform]

Apologies - it's from a recent MAPS paper that is quite a good read if you haven't seen it already.

Passie et al. The Pharmacology of Lysergic Acid Diethylamide: A Review. CNS Neuroscience & Therapeutics 14 (2008) 295–314.

[Jatelka]

I thought so. We have it in the archive here, as well.

[DopinDan]

When SWIM was much younger and still living at home, SWIM and his brother would set their alarm clocks early in the morning on a weekday, much earlier than they would ever get up under normal circumstances, to dose.

They were daytrippers, their mom would go to work during early in the morning, and SWIM and his brother would hop out of bed about 45 minutes after dosing and spend the day tripping, doing bong hits, and listening to The Dead, Hendrix and other awesome music.

[snowfield]

ive been informed that acid is at least 12-16 hours. what if you sleep within those 12-16 hours and wake up within those hours will you still be high? or its impossible for you to doze off when your high on acid?

[aerozeppelin123]

For SWIM and for most other people as far as I know, it is impossible to fall asleep on acid, even if most of the effects have worn off there is a lingering stimulation that lasts for a good few hours before one can fall asleep. It's better to just plan for the fact you won't sleep and don't try to until the effects have gone completely - it's not much fun lying there still semi-tripping trying to get to sleep when you can't.

[RFIM.]

SWIM has NEVER slept after dropping acid. SWIM has tried to forcibly fall asleep after a long trip by drinking lots of SoCo, but that didn't work either. SWIM believes you could still feel a bit loopy, if you will, up to two days after dropping, whether SWIY sleeps or not.

[helikophis]

Originally Posted by snowfield

ive been informed that acid is at least 12-16 hours. what if you sleep within those 12-16 hours and wake up within those hours will you still be high? or its impossible for you to doze off when your high on acid?

Nobody agrees with the previous posters. It is effectively impossible to sleep for quite a long time after taking acid, even if nobody is totally exhausted, desperately wants to sleep, and uses sleeping aids such as benzos or cannabis. This lasts several hours longer than the primary effects of the drug.

It is possible to lie in bed and pretend you're asleep, but even that doesn't really help. Sleep difficulties are one of the more noticeable and unpleasant side effects of acid. It can be accompanied by psychological and/or physical discomfort and restlessness. In individuals prone to restless leg or similar exhaustion symptoms, these may manifest, especially if the trip has interfered with normal sleeping patterns, as they very often do.

Nobody has heard it said that it's possible to go to sleep immediately after dosing, before the effects have taken hold, and wake up into the peak of the trip, but hasn't tried this and thinks it seems a little iffy.