questions about LSA

i heard about Morning glory seeds, i was wondering how many seeds it took to get high. and how long it lasts/what its like.





thanx

it took...lol sry i mean "it takes"

[enquirewithin]

http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning...ning_glory_bas ics.shtml


"Threshold effects of LSA can be reached with as few as 25-50 seeds,
though most recreational users find it necessary to ingest between 100
and 400 seeds to reach desired effects."


In my experience the seeds don't work if you eat them whole, or even
grind them. Many sources that you should make a cold water infusion to
extract the alkaloids and prevent uncomfortable symptoms.


They also seem to be very variable in strength. Be carefull ,because
some people have got very strong and alarming trips from them.Edited by: enquirewithin

[deadmoap]

I ground up four packs of seeds, and got nothing but some of the most
intense nausia and stomach cramps I've ever had. I might have tripped,
but I fell asleep because I was laying down and would have thrown up if
I moved an inch.



Cold water infusion? Is that an extraction using just water? I thought
you had to use ethanol and whatnot to extract it... hmmm... *goes to
google*

[antigenesis]

I'v never really 'tripped' on the seeds... Usually I just feel like I'm
getting tickled on the inside then I go numb for 5 hrs... Still fun
though.

[MescalinePirate]

I take Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. Need like 20 to have a strong trip...

Anyway, it is important to scrape off the fury stuff on the seeds, or you'll get sick.

Did you try washing the seeds before you ate them? Often, suppliers of
the seeds will coat them in chemicals which make you sick...

[magicmaster141]

I've taken MG seeds 3 or 4 times and never tripped, most of the time I just felt a little werid and had pains in my legs. I started with 250 and worked my way up to about 400-450 last time I did them. I washed them off good then just chewwed them. Waste of time for me but maybe you'll have better luck.

[MescalinePirate]

Tried morning glory now. Sucks.

Use Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds instead.

[Mezza]

I am thoroughly convinced that the quality of the MG trip depends completely on the type of seeds used, and the environmental conditions that they were grown in.


My first trip on MG's was with Burpee brand Heavenly Blues (9g), traditional water extraction. It was awesome - great visuals, euphoric body buzz...all the components of a great trip were there.(with1 hr of significant nausea before the trip kicked in)Tried LSA several other times - they were all different too. From no trip and really sick to a sparkling, mystical experience.


I just think the trip is totally random, and completely dependant on the concentrations of actives within the seeds...you can spend all the time you want trying to extract the alkaloids, but your end result will depend on the quality ofthe seeds.


Try them once or twice, and if they dont do it for you, move on.


Mezza

[Nature Boy]

I hear they dip morning glory seeds in mercury to prevent people from ingesting them. Anyone have verification on this?

[Zandorf]

That would be a pretty heinous use of mercury considering those seeds
are meant for gardens all over america and the fact that just handling
mercury is poisonous.

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

If you have to take 20 HBWR seeds to trip, you are buying the weak
ones. Good ones from Hawaii will have much more than threshold effect
with 3 of them. And 10 of them is almost too much to bear.



There is a certain internet vendor of kava on the island of Kauai, that
also has HBWR seeds and organically grown ayahuasca herbs. All their
shit is really good, try those seeds out.


Edited by: BrugmansiaBrujo

[MescalinePirate]

Oh, I can feel it with 2 seeds and get closed eye visualisations. I simply prefer to take around 20 or so.

[Alquimista]

SWIM has grinded them, done the cold water extraction, even ate them a whole and the conclusion is - the best way is to eat them raw and then smoke one when you start feeling nausea.

[MescalinePirate]

Smoke one when you begin to feel nausea? This really works? Also is this for morning glory seeds or HBWR?

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

Smoke one doober, spliff, joint, what ever you want to call it. Not the seeds! Smoking the seeds won't do anything.



I'll have to go with the just eat them method though, it is simplest and most effective.



HBWR seeds can be ground in a coffee grinder (pre-crush them a little
with pliers first so's they won't fly through the plastic lid of your
coffee grinder - they ARE quite hard and tend to bounce around in there
when whole), then placed into gelcaps if SWIM doesn't care to taste
them.



Also you have to watch your source when buying MG seeds. Many of
the seeds in packets made for gardeners, have a chemical coating on
them to discourage people from trying to trip on them, this coating
makes you sick/nauseous. Best get your seeds from a source that
sells organic, unprocessed seeds in bulk.


Edited by: BrugmansiaBrujo

[MescalinePirate]

Yeah but HBWR seeds have a natural coating which makes you sick. A
defensive mechanism by the plant to stop things eating its seeds.

[BrugmansiaBrujo]

That's why you scrape the seed coat off the nut with a razor or paring
knife before you put them in the coffee grinder. Simple. Never got
sick, ever. And don't eat the seeds whole - inneffective. You must at least grind them up, the finer the better.


Edited by: BrugmansiaBrujo

[MescalinePirate]

Yeah I know, I'm just saying that washing them to get rid of any toxic coating put on by man would not stop the nausea.