Hookahs?

[hookahlover]

SWIM knows you can smoke ganja out of a hookah, putting mostly shisha in it, then before the top, put the sweet sticky in there and cover barely with more shisha......How much THC would swim get from doing it this method? I thought....a hookah was pretty much a vaporizer, so would swim yield more THC using the hookah method than smoking a bowl? Thanks!

[Disconnected]

SWIM doesn't know the rate of THC intake as opposed to other smoking methods, but SWIM has smoked weed out of a hookah twice. One time was an extremely overwhelming high, one of the few times in SWIM's life where he felt TOO high.

The second time was very reminiscent of a vaporizer high though, and was actually quite nice, so the theory that it's like a crude vaporizer is probably correct.

[hookahlover]

haha, yeah swim used this about a week ago and almost got too high from the whole thing... But it works EXTREMLY well....and swim does like how you can smoke shisha and weed out of this. I think swim is getting ready to go do it again and do a write up on it for here.....for the good of other swimmers!

[adLriSanD]

my cat smoked weed out of a hookah a while ago he said it made him really stoned

[Stationary Traveller]

You put one layer of tobacco (shisha) then a small amount of pot and repeat the layering until your hookah bowl fills up. Then you fire your hookah up. If you smoke the whole thing like a hookah (slowly, one hookah can go on for about 2 hours and even more) the high creeps up on you ever so slightly and you think its not that effective. Then to your amazement you notice how extremely high you are lol
Or at least thats how swim does it when he wants something more from his hookah.
But be careful, powerful tastes like cappucino, too much mint or (especially) weed will leave a strong smell on your hose that can ruin other flavors later on.

[Richi]

That Crazy Pot Leaf gets no less than high as fuck from smoking from a hookah.

Large amounts of nicotine + large amounts of THC + large deep inhales = mad blitt.

[Daytonakid]

SWIM uses the hookah all the time. What SWIM does is take a bowl's worth of shisha (strawberry or double apple is SWIM's fav), put it on a plate, "generously season" the shisha with greenery, make sure it's all mixed u evenly, then stick it back in the bowl. SWIM also likes to sprinkle a little extra greenery on top of the bowl as an 'appetizer' before putting the foil on the top..

MMMMmmmm now SWIM's lungs are getting thirsty!

[pinksox]

SWIM has wanted to acquire a hookah for the longest time now.

Moreso for the poppy-by products their FOAF is planning to cultivate in mass quantities this growing season. This FOAF is fortunate to live in the middle of nowhere, and has a perfect, secluded back-40 acre field that would be perfect for said flower cultivation. Ah, "wild flowers," so pretty.

[cubenisdreaming27]

Originally Posted by hookahlover

I thought....a hookah was pretty much a vaporizer,

a hookah is not even close to a vaporizer, the only thing thats the same is that they both transport marijuana smoke into your body.

[helikophis]

Originally Posted by cubenisdreaming27

a hookah is not even close to a vaporizer, the only thing thats the same is that they both transport marijuana smoke into your body.

This is incorrect! A hookah, at least the Turkish style used to smoke shisha, is very much like a vaporizer. In a hookah, burning charcoal, which does not come into contact with the plant material, provides indirect heat, vaporizing the aromatic elements of the shisha. The plant material is not burned. This is similar to hot air vaporizers used for cannabis, in which air is heated and then passed over the plant material, vaporizing the aromatics (including cannabinoids), which are then inhaled. In both devices, no direct flame is applied, and the plant material is not burned. Instead of smoke, hot air charged with volatile aromatics is inhaled.

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very very good my friend, well said!

[Richi]

Originally Posted by Dr. Amapola

Always use less shisha than pot.

This is the only statement I disagree with, if we're discussing smoking a combination of marijuana and shisha in a water pipe. TCPH has tried this several times, and he finds that a small amount of marijuana is sufficient to get him stoned, in relation to the amount of shisha in the bowl. The shisha is soaked with molasses which lets it burn slowly and smoothely. If the bowl was filled the mostly marijuana, he imagines it would burn much faster and become harsh quite soon, but he enjoys bowls that last 45+ minutes.

Originally Posted by helikophis

This is incorrect! A hookah, at least the Turkish style used to smoke shisha, is very much like a vaporizer. In a hookah, burning charcoal, which does not come into contact with the plant material, provides indirect heat, vaporizing the aromatic elements of the shisha. The plant material is not burned.

Although you are correct it noting the similarity between the two, I think the shisha is still burned in a hookah. Since the coal is burning, the shisha burns slowly and comes out black and chared. The concept is the same, but vaporizers have much more temperature control which makes it virtually possible to 'vaporize' without burning. Great post though.

[Dr. Amapola]

"If the bowl was filled the mostly marijuana, he imagines it would burn much faster and become harsh quite soon, but he enjoys bowls that last 45+ minutes. "


The quality of the ingredients you use are going to have a big effect on the overall enjoyable factor. The weed types that SWIM uses are very dense and sticky hydroponics. If SWIYou is using dry or mid-grade weed, then you'll experience harsh-ness with the more weed you put in the bowl.

The kind of shisha is even more important to an enjoyable smoke. Quality does not always coincide with price; certain brands are just better, plain & simple. Some shisha brands (not mentioning names) are just terrible; they're made from poor quality tobacco that is usually composed of sticks and stems of the plant. And the molasses and flavorings they use kinda taste like industrial cleaning products

A homogenous mixture of the two ingredients (marijuana & shisha) is what makes for an excellent smoking session. If you want that "traditional" 1/2 hour to hour long smoking session you'll obviously need to use more shisha.

Also remember that SWIM is talking about a small bowl of weed/shisha mix, just for one person. If you're in a big group, conserve your weed. This is just SWIM's opinion from his experience and what works for him.

If SWIM could offer any advice to fellow hookah smokers, EXPERIMENT! Noone ever discovered anything new by doing the same thing over and over.

[greenhit]

SWIM smokes hookah with shisha on the bottom, then some green, then a little more shisha, then a little opium...........yeah

[pride345]

Opium and Hashish on a Hookah with Al-Fakher Mint is heaven...

Anyway, back on topic: Hookah is the best way to smoke weed in SWIMS opinion, but hashish SWIM believes is better for hookahs (more strong, use less, doesn't leave such a big smell).
Also did you know you can fill the base with juice of some sort instead of water, to change the flavour? When SWIM was in Iran he used pure juice, but SWIM realises concentrate juice is better, and SWIm knows of some people who adds a lilttle bit of red wine or other alcohol to the base instead Enjoy!

[greenhit]

Yes, SWIY is right hashish keif or turd(as SWIM calls them LOL)is very good on a hookah pack.

greenhit added 2 Minutes and 50 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by cubenisdreaming27

a hookah is not even close to a vaporizer, the only thing thats the same is that they both transport marijuana smoke into your body.

Ya, SWIY is wrong. A hookah is a vaporizer, it does not burn the herb, it heats it through the aluminum foil to create vapor.

What SWIY is thinking of is called a communial bong or water pipe with hoses.

[wbfanatic234]

like fellow swimmers have said here when ever swim smokes out of a hookah he seems to get wayyyy higher than usual. the other day swim and Michael Phelps smoked less than a joints worth out of a hookah and they both managed to get super baked. swim thinks it is a combo of the tobacco buzz and weed high. anyways if any swimmers have the chance to try this DO ITTT...soo much fun.

[Dr. Amapola]

SWIM likes DaytonaKid's method; mix in the weed with the shisha in a seperate place before adding the glob to the hookah bowl. Personally swim doesn't like to inhale too much on shisha as it makes him very dizzy, he even loves cigars but for some reason shisha makes 'em buzzed! The combination of molasses, which just smells strong! ..nevermind smoking it, and the big pieces of tobacco stems chopped up in just about every kind of shisha, all makes for a pretty strong but profoundly unique tobacco buzz.

A Tried-and-True Method for Smoking Weed with Shisha:

If one wants to really experience the effects of the pot, this method is what swim has developed over the years. Most importantly, shisha is strong and one doesn't need as much as you may think. Always use less shisha than pot. mix the pot into the shisha thoroughly and evenly so that the weed wont be scorched by the coals [and your precious THC vaporized into the air].

Pack the mixture into the bowl and put at least enough in there to cover all the holes with a heathy layer of shisha mix. Next grab a square of aluminum foil and secure it tightly over the bowl (there's debate on the health risk of using foil for smoking hookah. SWIM thinks its okay, there are probably worse things SWIyou've smoked) and poke plenty of little holes with a sharp tool. Use one coal and break it up into 2-3 pieces and put 'em right in the center of the bowl. When lighting coal, SWIM allows a minimum of five minutes for coals to heat up and the crappy smell to burn off, as most all hookah coals have additives in them to make them burn better (even the some of the ones that claim to be organic).

In the middle east where they smoke hookah everywhere, the natives use regular wood coals from a fire which is optimum but not everyone has a fire going all the time. Make sure your hookah has clean water and is working properly with all the seals tight and you're ready to enjoy.

Reasons for a few things in these methods:

using more weed than shisha: optional but if swiyou wants to get stoned, then use a 3:2 weed to shisha ratio, or just enough shisha to coat the weed. Experiment, just use more weed than shisha.

making a homogenous mix: Get some shisha, and break up some weed to the same consistency as you would use for a joint. Work the two ingredients together slowly with hands or a tool. Old/used plastic credit or whatever cards work great. Use wax paper over a hard surface to work on. The more homogenous or consistent the mix is, the better it will smoke so take some time to "mix up the medicine". This ensures THC-rich vapors and smoke will not be lost to the heat of the coals. It also makes the whole thing taste a heck of a lot better.

Waiting for the Charcoal to Burn: Only applies to designated hookah coals, not coal from a wood fire. Letting the hookah coals burn for at least 3-5 mins before use ensures that you wont be inhaling any nasty stuff that the charcoal-makers put in the coals to make them burn better. In all honesty, if you have access to a wood fire then use the hot coals from there, definitely! Wood fire coals are much better and almost never taste like shit (because they come from a thousand-degree fire).

Clean Your Hookah: Noone likes a stinky water pipe, in fact its probably one of the worst odors next to sewage. Use a mixture of isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and a few pinches of salt to clean your hookah base. Alcohol can be used to clean the upper parts as well. The alcohol dissolves the tar and other crap, and sanitizes it at the same time. The salt acts as an abrasive and will clean in areas you can't reach with your tools. Just swish the mixture around and the salt will provide the muscle to get the stuck-on stuff outta there.

And thats my take on hookahs

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Great write-up with easy to folow instructions.

[port 21]

Swim had some great high's from smoking from a hookah, with apple flavoured shisha. But swim feels that some lagl highs like the ones available from legalbuds are better, as they last longer and so does the high. Not as intense as weed, but swim has had some amazing smoking sesh's with some legal bud. Legalbuds' stuff plus weed and a nice amount of shisha is the best way to go in swims opinion.

[andehpandeh]

The best way to smoke it with weed is, very oddly, with milk and ice in the bottom, and the weed at the top grinded/cut quite roughly, then mixed into Swiy's selection of tobacco by hand. Around 2/3 joints worth is enough to knock my pet dinosaur and 3 or 4 people out too.

Why the milk and ice? Smoother smoke with ice, and milk thickens it up so Swiy really feel like Swiy've taken a nice pull.

When Swim gets the chance when Swim moves into the new house Swim'll put together an FAQ and some pictures.

Also, someone said something about putting the coals in the middle. Through experience, better to break them to 3 semi-equal pieces, put them around the outside of the foil-covered bowl (remember to poke only a few small holes evenly in the foil) and smoke it then. The coals eventually creep down to the centre but leaving them on the outside allows the whole thing to be smoked evenly rather than burning the middle and just lightly toasting the sides...

Remember to clean the pipe and hose with pipe-cleaners every chance Swiy get, preferably right or soon after Swiy's session, to get a larger amount of smoke and better quality taste next time, instead of a harsher flavour and feel on the throat.

Last random fact: using mint flavour really, really compliments the weed. Swim recommends Al-Fakher for those in the UK, on shishashop on the net or something like that, just no Soex, ruins everything and lasts for like 20 minutes

[port 21]

Swim completly agrees with the above post. Soex is SHIT. Peach and mango made swim wants to throw up, so harsh on the throaght and awful taste. Swim has some very nice apple flavoured shisha he got from turkey (when he bought the hookah) and its amazing, very wet and sticky, producing a smooth smoke.

[sconcequence]

Originally Posted by hookahlover

SWIM knows you can smoke ganja out of a hookah, putting mostly shisha in it, then before the top, put the sweet sticky in there and cover barely with more shisha......How much THC would swim get from doing it this method? I thought....a hookah was pretty much a vaporizer, so would swim yield more THC using the hookah method than smoking a bowl? Thanks!

This makes SWIM curious. Is there special "cannabis sisha" available for sale where appropriate, like the Netherlands?

[Lost Dog Screaming]

Good side to hookah's, they get swiy really fucked up. The downside, swiy needs alot of bud to make it work (if swiy have no charcoal). UNLESS! Swiy retrofits some sort of smaller bowl, like a bong downstem taped or glued to it or something. Swim's friend did it and Swim got Sooooooooo fucked up it was crazy.