vicodin addiction ?

[benrock]

i have been taking about 3-4 vicodin a day for about 1 yr now , how can i come off without withdrwawl , i have 10mg methodone , how can i do this , i didnt take any all day and i feel like shit bad , please help

[Starfish]

Hi I dont know nothing about vicodin , but I guess cutting down slowly
goes for that too, like other pills. I have never tried it myself(I am
too scared) but I guess someone else can tell how much and when
often to cut down.

[xxgaretjaxx]

I agree with Starfish. Quitting without any withdrawl is going to
be difficult. Your best bet is to slowly cut back on the number of
vicodin you take a day. You take 3 or 4 a day right now so maybe
cut down to 2 or 3 a day. Then after a small period of time cut
back to 1 or 2. Once down to only 1 a day you are going to have
to just give up. It is going to be difficult, but you can get
through it. Good luck.

[Mr.Zenu]

your lucky your are still alive. doesn't vicodin contain acetaminophen? should'nt your liver have failed by now?

I would recommend moving to something less harmful with similar effects like nicotine in large quantities which can be found in dipping tabacco. I personally enjoy the effects of lots of nicotine more and find them similar to the good effects of vicodin with out the negative feelings like wanting to puke.

[bcStoner420]

Since when does vicodin and nicotine feel the same, thats gotta be the worste comparison ive ever heard in my life. And yes, it does contain acetaminophen, that doesnt mean that his liver should have failed, but its probly not in the heathiest shape.

[Mr.Zenu]

a little nicotine from a cigerette will have different effects than a huge amount from dip. a huge amount from dip does feel like a relaxing downer.

[miffy]

Isn't phycodin used like methodone, for heroin substitution? Havng experienced nicotine addcition can provide some windows into understanding something like a smack habit, but it isn't really the same, by many degrees of magnitude. . .

[thatsall]

my cousin just went cold turkey after 4 yrs on and off ddiction to vicodin. He was bad. Bad! He was not only doin vics but oxy's, morphine pills, cocaine, but main thing was vicodin. He checked himself into a 28 day rehab center about a week ago. he said he was doing great when i talked to him. I dont know if they are giving him anything to cope, but i remember last time he did it cold turkey. He said its tough. This ic coming from someone who said they were up to 40 a day, if he could do it you can!

[bcStoner420]

40 a day seems unrealistic to me, especially after 4 years. There his no way he would still have a working liver after that.
Hell, nevermind 4 years after 1 dam day!

Unless he was actually a smart junkie and used CWE which not many do.

[thatsall]

What is CWE? And he didnt start off using forty but yeah it got that bad. When i would see him on a daily basis about a month ago at work he would be as high as a kite. He would start the day off with at least 5. Then throughout the day he would keep on poppin. He was bad. He rarely missed a day and when he did u knew it.

[thatsall]

oh yeah and there was a football player on TV i seen who said he was up to 80 a day so dont say its unrealistic because even if that guy was lying he had to be up there in the numbers. And 40 is half of 80 so.....realistic

[thatsall]

Sorry but to rest my case see this thread "ADDICTION TO PAINKILLERS" it says right there she was on 15 oxys a day and 40 norcos after 4 years.

[bcStoner420]

Originally Posted by thatsall

Sorry but to rest my case see this thread "ADDICTION TO PAINKILLERS" it says right there she was on 15 oxys a day and 40 norcos after 4 years.

Wtf, well i dont think i beleive that either way, not only is that enough tylenol to kill someone in like 3 days or mabey even 1 (dont feel like doin the math), thats alot of god dam opiates. And CWE is cold water extraction, and for doing that much that HAS to be the only way shes still alive.

There i decided to do the math. 40 a day with minimum 300 mgs acetaminophen each is 12 grams of acetaminophen!! Pretty sure liver failure is at 8 grams. So i dont buy 40, let alone 80! thats outrageous.

Also, im not saying YOU are lying, but i doubt the sources you got that info from are completely true.

[thatsall]

Anything Is Possible

[bcStoner420]

Originally Posted by thatsall

Anything Is Possible

True, in some cases that is. I beleive this is not one of them with the only possible way they took this much would be using CWE. I dont know if your grasping how badly acetaminophen can tear away your liver. Mabey theres something im missing here but i dont think so. There is just no possible way they took 12 grams of acetaminophen a day and lived, especially not 4 years.

[Colby]

I wouldnt suggest taking methadome man, withdrawls yea they suck but try to get ur self some trazadone and seroquel they should help a lot, and ur gonna sleep like shit, i'd by some melatonin, that will build the melatonin back up in ur body but it takes a while, so that wont work that great but still take it, and u know just take some regulare like benadryl or tylenol pm. and if u can get trazadone or seroquel they will help u sleep very well too, take the trazadone in the morning and the seroquel at night.

[MrJim]

Man....This thread is rather muddled. When people are saying they were doing 40 a day, that's mg's, not pills.
As for getting off - easing is often a good way to do that, the only problem is when you are an addict you will often cheat. Just a little more today... bady day, etc.
The slower you take it the easier it is on your system - try reducing usage by a quarter pill a week. That won't shock your body and will give it time to heal between steps. It might take 3-4 months, but it will be much easier on you.
If you have a trusted friend or GF you can give all the pills to which will give them to you on a daily basis it would help. Someone who won't give in to you bitching about pain.

[warandhate]

thats a good 420th post MrJim

[Jaded]

Originally Posted by thatsall

What is CWE?

A CWE stands for cold water extraction, used to extract the active ingredient the person wants from lots of pharmacuticals.

http://www.neonjoint.com/drug_recipes/chapter11.html

Check here for an explantion and method.

[Beeker]

after a car racing crash I was on 240 piss 10/325 for 8 months. I didn't have a problem with the physical withdrawls.

1) I drank heavily for two days
2) popped Imodium AD like candy.

[u4ic]

I agree that the withdrawals from 3-4 vicodin a day shouldn't be that bad at least from a physical stand point. The mental addiction should be dealt with good diet, proper supplements and exercise. There will probably be some depression to deal with usually the same one that lead us to take the pills in the first place.

[Beeker]

I was in a bad car wreck last year and destroyed my right shoulder. The Doctors wouldn't perscribe anything but Tylonal 3 so I went the online route (so easy to do) and a day later I had no pain and 240 Norco 10/325's. after 3 months I was doing 8 a day and knew it was a problem. I tried cold turkey and I was throwing up every hour for 3 hours and so I got the pills.

I used Krotom(sp) tea, Imodium AD, and drank heavily for 2 days.. on the third day I was hung over from the booze but the withdrawl was gone, I continued the Krom tea for 2 weeks. I was depressed for a few weeks.

Hydrocordone addiction is faily quick, before you knew it kinda thing but the withdrawl wasn't near as bad as when I quit smoking.

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ugh.. painful memories... VERY painful

[Beeker]

as you can tell I use to smoke cannabis, I forgot I posted on this already lol!

[allyourbase]

6 months is your glory period for oral opiate use. to kill withdrawls use some form of barbituric acid. people say butalbital is best because it has a few carbon groups that fit opiate receptors. phenobarbitol will just halt the skids. I would advise against the use of benzodiazapines like xanax or valium though, as by the time your physical addiction to hydrocodone has fully been kicked youll have a whole new and far worse addiction to benzos.

[sands of time]

I see this post is getting back on track. Why is everyone so suprised that someone can live 1 year after being addicted to vikes? Acetaminophen is bad for your liver, and 1 year on it will cause problems for some people, but it's not a death sentance. You'd be suprised how much abuse the liver can take, and how quickly it can heal. I've seen people taking 6-7 vikes a day for a year with serious problems resulting though.

Vicodin withdrawals are not fun, I believe that has been established. They are not all that bad either, in comparison to many other addictions. There are many ways to relieve the withdrawal symptoms, and some have been listed here. I'll post the most successful methods which gave oedipus, my pet ostrich, the best results.

1) Pop imodium as Raedon said. All that opiate abuse has most likely left you in a state of great constipation. Once your sphincter awakens (and it will!), it is not going to be happy. You are going to be shitting like your prepping for a colonoscopy. All this movement of feces may make you nauseous, so the imodium will help by somewhat constipating you in much the same way opiates do. This will allow you to gradually allow yourself to shit in a humane manor.

2) Raedon also mentioned kratom. This is amuch better way to ease the withdrawals than by using methadone, mostly because methadone is serious overkill. Kratom will ease the symptoms, and it might even give you a little extra kick in terms of stimulation. It's all the craze in the world of pain pill poppers, because it's legal, effective, and not nearly as addictive. This means you can make a painless transition to kratom, and them stop using kratom with a fraction of the withdrawals.

3) Try using an OTC sleep aid that contains doxylamine succinate. This is one of the active ingredients in nyquil, and it is one of the best OTC sleep aids in my opinion. You may feel like a zombie the next morning, but your withdrawing from an opiate, thats how you probably feel anyways.

Diphenhydramine, the stuff in benadryl, is also a somewhat effective OTC sleep aid. Again, this stuff can leave you feeling like a zombie in the morning.

Melatonin seems to work for some people, but I dont trust it. It has never done a damn thing for me, and it's not regulated by the FDA. The only thing that the FDA seems to be useful for is making sure that the meds you buy contain the correct amount of the active ingredients. Since melatonin is not regulated, chances are many brands contain less of the active ingredient than listed, or none at all!

4) You probably don't have kratom available, so try reducing the dosage of vicodin each day, until your taking none. In my opinion, this method sucks because your just prolonging the withdrawals. You might as well get it over with now, while you still have the motivation.