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Old 28-01-2009, 12:04
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Smoking Suboxone on Foil

SWIM is scripted Suboxone to help with his opiate dependance and is using that instead of Oxy which was his DOC. SWIM takes 1 8mg tab every 12 hours. SWIM completely HATES putting it under his tongue and dosent give him very much relief, the taste is HORRIBLE, and it seems like some of it gets wasted because it gets swallowed instead of dissolved sublingualy. SWIM heard that it can be snorted but the taste would still be there, SWIM read a post on another forum saying that he accidently put a 1/4 tab suboxone on the foil instead of oxy and it worked a hell of alot better than sublingualy. SWIM knows this will remind him of snoking oxy and will not use this method unless he is feeling no relief from taking it sublingualy, just curious if anyone has tried this and how well it works? Thanks.
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Old 28-01-2009, 12:16
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

swim tried this once and swim thinks it tastes alot worse than sublingual. swim couldnt remember how it felt as he was also smoking oxy at the time and didnt know what subs were.

so swim just smoked an 8th of a pill. dont think it did much. swim reminds you that the naloxone in the tablet keeps your receptors blocked so the bupe doesnt get you high plus its only a partial agonist.

just put them under your tounge you get used to the taste its aquired

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The Naloxone isn't why your receptors get blocked, it's the Buprenorphine because of it's high binding affinity. Also, you can get VERY high from Buprenorphine.
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Old 28-01-2009, 12:25
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

wims mates used to snort subbys, swim himself used to inject them,,,,,,,,,,,,swim hated the taste of those fuka's under his tongue,,especially the large ones,,luckily swim is on methadone,,,,,,,,,,

swim advise u to take it how its meant to be taken. its only a few minutes of suffering,,,chop it up into smaller bits so it disolves quicker, and make sure your mouth isnt dry, as wet as u can.

but yeah, its tfukin rank those pills
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Old 29-01-2009, 14:12
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

Just take it as prescribed; it's not going to get you high regardless. Snorting, smoking, stickin' it up your bung blah blah blah, it's all pointless and nothing but a waste of your time.

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good point, why to take a substitute instead of a drug!
invalid information.. suboxone can cause euphoria/analgesia
Great point, its honestly a complete bloody waste of time, and if this is a HARM REDUCTION site, then this is a great answer. To the guy that said "invalid information", ? and what the hell does that comment about euphoria have to do with anything?
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Old 30-01-2009, 15:43
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

swim has tried this before swim smokes oc80s off foil usein the chasein the dragon tech but also has tried it with suboxone and swim could say it kinda works swim felt something.. the high was there. better stick to ochos tho but swim bets smokin the subutex would be better then smokin suboxone has anyone tried this?
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Old 10-08-2009, 23:57
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

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Just take it as prescribed; it's not going to get you high regardless. Snorting,
You serious?

Insufflating subs, certainly DOES work, just fine. So does the Intravenous method.

I'm also curious about smoking/vaporizing it though, can't find many reports though.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:13
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

SWIM has snorted Subuxone and found it to be very strong. He doesn't have that big of a tolerance but is experienced with a lot of different opiates. The first time he tried it he snorted a little less than 2mg and promptly threw up about an hour later. After throwing up he felt really good, quite methadone like. He really liked the taste, was like snorting a line of candy.

SWIM thought that it wasn't possible to shoot Subuxone since it contains Naxalone as well as Buprenorphine. Subutex or Temegesic could be IVed since they only contain bupe.

SWIM was given a load of Buprenorphine patches and found he could smoke them much like Fentanyl patches. The high was nowhere near as strong as fent but was still good. Snorting was much stronger though, although he was only smoking small amounts at a time.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:58
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

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SWIM thought that it wasn't possible to shoot Subuxone since it contains Naxalone as well as Buprenorphine. Subutex or Temegesic could be IVed since they only contain bupe.
It is no doubt, a logical theory.

but the fact is, buprenorphine has a much higher affinity for the receptors than naloxone, so naloxone has a very hard time trying to dislodge it from the receptors, and is unlikely to ever happen.

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Correct! Buprenorphine beats Naloxone at binding to the opiate receptors every time.
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:54
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

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It is no doubt, a logical theory.

but the fact is, buprenorphine has a much higher affinity for the receptors than naloxone, so naloxone has a very hard time trying to dislodge it from the receptors, and is unlikely to ever happen.
Ah fair enough. What is the purpose of it then?
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:55
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

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Ah fair enough. What is the purpose of it then?
basically, it's like a scare tactic, so people don't try 'abusing' it.
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Old 13-08-2009, 21:40
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

SWIM is all for trying to get high in any way possible, but thinks this is a bad idea.

The best way to abuse suboxone is to snort it. Fastest, least disgusting, better bioavailability. SWIM has also tried shooting it a couple times, and it didn't make SWIM sick or anything like they try and scare you about, but it also was the most disgusting thing/feeling you can imagine. Injecting a revolting orange syrup into yourself - not cool. SWIM, swear to God, still gets physically nauseous to this day thinking about it. He is right now. SWIM has no doubt that smoking it would be even more disgusting than injecting it.

Snorting is the way to go.

Also ake it from one of the most desperate fucked up junkies you could ever meet, who has tried every way to get high off the shitboxone, out of despair for lack of heroin, for 2 years - it's not going to happen unless you are opiate naive, or on less than 1mg per day. If you are on less than 1mg per day, you can snort about 4-6 mgs and it will make you tired and a bit noddy for the day. It doesn't feel good, but it does make you kind of opiate-sleepy.

If you're on anything more than 1mg per day, seriously don't bother trying to get high on the suboxone. You can't.
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Old 13-08-2009, 21:45
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

Why not smoke it? What would make it worse than injection (which I've heard is HORRIBLE)?
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Old 14-08-2009, 17:24
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

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Why not smoke it? What would make it worse than injection (which I've heard is HORRIBLE)?
As someone who has experienced the vileness of injected suboxone, the only thing SWIM can think of more disgusting is having that revolting orange shit turned into an oily smoke coating your mouth, sinuses, nose, throat and lungs. Then, considering the fact that it's not going to get you any higher than snorting, or that much higher than just sublingual, makes it especially pointless.
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Old 28-09-2009, 07:47
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

omg i did it last night and I got really fucked up.. Never do it I thought that they had a ceiling effect but this way they don't..... just wanted to be sober i hated the feeling made me feel sooo grosss. and I could tell that the receptor i really wanted filled was not satisfied. DONT DO IT
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Old 30-09-2009, 00:29
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

Iff people are trying to get high from buprenorphine, Labmonkey would suggest obtaining Subutex, if possible. No nasty orange taste, no naloxone. 10-12 mgs nasally works for Labmonkey and he is very opiate tolerant (usual doses are .25 grams IV/snorted heroin or 80-100 mgs oral oxycodone-note this is not 'dicksizing' or encouraging ridiculous opiate doses, just putting Labmonkey's tolerance in context). Snorted buprenorphine is not super-intense, but its advantage is that it lasts a very long time. He hasn't tried, nor will he try, smoking or shooting it, he's heard nothing but bad about injecting or smoking all pills
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Old 01-10-2009, 19:35
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

swim has IVed subutex before and it actually works quite well. This was right when swim had got back to using and his withdrawals were only very light, though. He tried it again once he started getting dopesick as fuck, and the IV Subutex (4mg) only made it 10x worse.

So for those Non-opiate dependents out there, yeah, it's not bad.
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:29
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

Recently swim and his friend have come upon a bunch of subs and have stooped down to chasing the dragon. Honestly i dont get all the negativity about smoking suboxone. swim and 4 friends split 3 8mg pills while chasing the dragon and honestly got really fucking high. for a bunch of non-frequent opiate users it can get you high as shit. and the taste is not even bad! marshmallows! thats it, most know the marshmallow smell of other opiates... suboxone is no different. swim can honestly say those that prefer injecting, snorting, or taking it sublingually are cray-z!!!! smoke it and your golden. one thing i might mention however is that out of all the people who smoked it not a single one failed to puke that night.Swim says the subs were 8-mg orange oxagon or hectagon or sumtin like that pills and they made everyone sick in the end.....maybe cut with sumtin to make smoking less appealing... they are designed for opiate abusers after all... half of which chase the dragon with their doc's most likely.....

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Old 06-10-2009, 03:44
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

I would be surprised if swiy and his friends had not gotten sick from that. Something about nasty, nasty suboxone just screams DO NOT TOUCH to Slim. Just to imagine actually smoking the stuff... yahk.
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

well swim just tried chasing about 3 mg of subutex on the foil, and it turned out great. let him tell you. he's been on subutex for over a year, and never gets high off it anymore, but this method WORKS!!!! swim got amazing headrushes off every hit. this is going to be a new staple in his household.

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Thanks for sharing. It's hard to track down experience reports for this ROA ( vaporizing, smoking ).
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Old 09-04-2010, 05:30
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

swim just passed out using this method and hit his head on the counter. ouch.
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Old 30-04-2010, 05:31
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

Swims been taking subs regularly 1-2 mg sublingually as to avoid his usual Drug/activity of choice: smoking blues (aka roxy 30s). It's been nearly a month since Swim touched any opiods other than bupe when he start to feel a craving every few days or so. However, today was one of those days where swim wanted more than the usual 2 mg under the tongue and even considered relapse. Instead he gave smokin it a try by way of the foil and chase method. Smoking was done 20 min ago for a period of about 30 min. Definite head rush high is present with notable analgesia of the head and neck. Euphoria is rather intense about equal to oxy. Limited analgesia to extremeties and the lower back pain is only somewhat relieved where as sublingual admin typically relieves the back pain more. Swim will likely take some xanax and relax.
Conclusion: smoking the sub definitely had an effect and at about an hr in no ill effects to note. Will update after the experience
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Old 30-04-2010, 21:24
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

Swim agrees that snorting them is the way to go. Swim never "tastes" them when snorting. It just smells like orange cleaner...lol Swim gets a VERY intense high from snorting, but none at all under the tongue.
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

SWIM joined SPECIFICALLY to reply to this thread. SWIM was so tired of all these people saying that "If you snort a Suboxone, it won't get you high","You will go into precipitated withdrawl","You won't feel a thing", blah blah blah. SWIM got so tired of hearing all of this that she finally said "F-CK it" and tried it herself. This was her experience:

SWIM is prescribed 8mg of Suboxone a day to keep her away from a 6 year drug habit abusing any opiate she could find, particularly between 200-300mgs of Roxicodone and Dilaudid. This morning before she went to work, SWIM snorted 2 mg of her Suboxone and took another 2 mg under her tounge. In less than 20 minutes SWIM had a head high (no euphoria, just that relaxed, numb "head-high" feeling) and it lasted her about 6 hours. So there.

SWIM realizes that everyone is different but this is how it worked out for her. SWIM is also surprised that someone with her large tolerance could be affected this way.

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SWIM read a lot of forums saying that SWIY needs to crush it up into fine, fine powder before doing it. SWIY needs to hold it in their nose as long as possible to let it get into their system and after about 10-15 minutes then SWIY can sniff harder to let it drip. As for smoking, SWIM supposes it would be very similar, however, SWIY will lose most of the chemical by smoking it anyway, so therefore SWIM recommends snorting it.

Peace and Love everyone!

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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

Agreed, snorting SUB works wonderfully. SWIM has only snorted enough so that NO DRIP is tasted. This is obviously a small amount but, if one feels the need to redose, do so but in very small amounts.
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Re: Smoking Suboxone on Foil

2mg snorted is nice and strong for SWIM and lasts a very long time.irst time he had it he snorted 1.8mg and found it took strong and puked his guts up) When he does it he finds that when he wakes up the next day be able to do stuff, then as soon as he sits down will start to nob off again. He snorted 3mg, 2mg then 1mg a few others later the other day and the next day he had to take 3 naps. All had nice opiate vision dreams. He tried smoking 1mg but it didn't work that well, nowhere near as good as snorting it. SWIM finds he itches for at least 12hours after snorted the last of it sometimes even up to 24hours. He also finds it takes a fair time to kick in even when snorted, normally at least an hour to reach peak effects which is barely unheard of for almost all snorted drugs. Even biginning effects take half an hour to develope.

SWIM had much more luck vaporizing patches that had bueprenorphine in and smoking that than crushing pills up and smoking them.

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