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Old 28-01-2009, 00:44
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Adderall comedown suggestions

Somones going to be taking adderall XR in the mornings to help them study and get things done throughout the day, as well as get a little buzzy euphoria. My question is what can they do towards the end of the day to ease the comedown and make sleep easier. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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Old 28-01-2009, 01:04
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

adderall is like baby ecstasy so it does definitely have a certain level of a crash...what i suggest is first and most importantly
-MAKE SURE YOU EAT because you won't feel like it but you have to force yourself to because you will be cranky and irritable.
-since you are taking the extended release one make sure that you take it first thing in the morning and not later on in the day because you will not be able to get to sleep, and sleep is the second most important thing to get when you are on adderall
-and if you can absolutely not get to sleep at night, psyduck will take some sort of sleep aid, tylenol pm is her favorite, or of course, smoke some green.

good luck with the new medication, i hope you find it as useful as i have!
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Old 28-01-2009, 02:47
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

Marijuana is a great answer to this problem.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

why sleep? Take some the next day just to get you through, then you'll sleep once that lower dose wears off. But this advice isn't advised, just something swim would end up doing if perscribed. but on a more serious note, any depressant would work really. wether it be heroin or benadryl. Of course benadryl is much more realistic, and probably the healthier option, but any benzos would make a good subsititute.
In swim's experience, a couple beers before intended sleep helped.

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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

I get a script for ambien from my doc. If I'm outta ambien I take a generic gel cap sleep aid from the drugstore. CVS brand and it really makes me drowsy but gives me a "restless legs" type feeling. The gel caps work the best for me. Good luck it's a miserable feeling to not be able to sleep. I don't need addy but got a script and use it for energy at work so I have issues with sleep all the time.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

There's a lot swiy can do to ease the comedown of amps. One is to take it earlier during the day not so close to turning in, it really makes things much easier. Make sure to eat and drink! It's very important, even if its something small, eating something can really ease the comedown. Maybe throw on some chilling music and do something swiy finds relaxing. Swiy can also take a very low dose of amphetamine just to ease the comedown but it might add to the insomnia if taken late.
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Old 25-02-2009, 19:14
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

well swim started with a 30mg at midnight last night30mg more a bit later, now its 11:00am the next day still no sleep. swim just took a few tokes of weed, but still cant decide if she should try and sleep or just keep pushingthrough till theendof this day...
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

Marijuana can be helpful but is definitely not the best solution for amphetamine comedowns if just used by itself, at least if the user has a low tolerance to speed or is on a big dose. All it really does for swim is give him some euphoria, it doesn't really ease any anxiety or restlessness. Alcohol works wonders, opiates and benzodiazepines are even better. Cigarettes will help pass the time and relax. And about any combination of those will work a million times better than by themselves.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

1) force SWIY to eat some form of complex carb, protein, fat, and drink orange juice or another high in vitamin C.

2) take a vitamin supplement (ONLY after eating at least some food).

3) Smoke some weed, pop a benzo, drink some alcohol. Whatever cools SWIY out.

You'll feel just slightly groggy the next day, at worst.
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Old 03-03-2009, 14:43
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

swim finds that a small meal like some cearal or some fruit bars and lots water helps.

than if its early enough some beers with a few benzos..if its like 11am just take the benzos. swim takes kpins with temazepam and try to get some sleep. swim hears 5htp helps too. weed someteims makes for more paranoia and uncomfortable feelings.

even if swim gets no sleep he tends to be able to handle the day with out sleep if he cant get any. than crashs til like 5 pm the next day usually ha. just make sure to get lots of water, vit c, lil bit of food and a few benzos. if no benzos try nyquil. swim finds the cold pills with dxm-actaminophen-doxlymin the best...try to avoid the ones with phenylephrine and such isnt good...

but lots of water...some vit c, and a small meal, with a few benzos is what swim usually does to ease the shit feeling. swim rarely gets a nasty crash. just doesnt get sleep if swim binges a lil too hard.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

SWIM's taken other drugs to aid in sleep (Tylenol PM, Xanax, Klonopin, Vicodin). They all suck. They put SWIM to sleep, for sure, but when re-dosing the following morning efficacy of the Adderall is lessened. Besides, the idea of just smacking your system left and right, up and down with different substances daily/bidaily doesn't agree with his vision of ideal health.

SWIM suggests to find out how long Adderall keeps you up, and dose accordingly to get at least 7.5 hours of sleep/night. Drink 8 - a million oz. of orange juice on the comedown. This has made SWIM wayyy less irritable. Learn your body, speed safely.
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:49
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

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SWIM's taken other drugs to aid in sleep (Tylenol PM, Xanax, Klonopin, Vicodin). They all suck. They put SWIM to sleep, for sure, but when re-dosing the following morning efficacy of the Adderall is lessened. Besides, the idea of just smacking your system left and right, up and down with different substances daily/bidaily doesn't agree with his vision of ideal health.

SWIM suggests to find out how long Adderall keeps you up, and dose accordingly to get at least 7.5 hours of sleep/night. Drink 8 - a million oz. of orange juice on the comedown. This has made SWIM wayyy less irritable. Learn your body, speed safely.
SWIM would agree with mykeamine. There are a wide variety of substances SWIY can take to ease the comedown, but if SWIY chooses to do this, dosing the next day will be much less effective. For SWIM, adderall is the most effective when he's had a full night of sleep and a day of proper nuitrition and hydration, or at least a decent sized meal before crashing at the end of the day. SWIM has used DXM and zolpidem (ambien) for come downs, but finds that nothing beats vitamin C, real food, water, and natural sleep.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

Swim is prescribed adderall. The absolute best substance for getting some sleep after the addy wears off is ghb/gbl. Benzos second, Marijuana third.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

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SWIM would agree with mykeamine. There are a wide variety of substances SWIY can take to ease the comedown, but if SWIY chooses to do this, dosing the next day will be much less effective. For SWIM, adderall is the most effective when he's had a full night of sleep and a day of proper nuitrition and hydration, or at least a decent sized meal before crashing at the end of the day. SWIM has used DXM and zolpidem (ambien) for come downs, but finds that nothing beats vitamin C, real food, water, and natural sleep.

my friend agrees. sometimes the benzos are jus needed if sleep is a must, but even than it barely helps my friend sometimes. like said earlier just know when it wears off so swiy can get the rest, unless swiy is plannn on doin an all nighter. Just eat and drink lots of water. my friends takes lots of vit c and water. my friend would rather take a otc sleep med over benzo though since benzos seems to add to the depression the next day she finds.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

SWIM uses .3cc of xylazine IM to come down off Adderall nightly. It's effective, slows HR and aids in a good nights rest without a hangover.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

There are many things that can aid in sleeping on a comedown, it all depends on the person. SWIM's main problem with sleeping when he takes his adderall, comes from taking a large dose. On smaller doses SWIM can actually take a nap, but SWIM has ADHD and a long history of stimulant abuse resulting in a very strong possible cross tolorance to adderall's norepinephrine effects. SWIM also has Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and gets very anxious on higher doses from dopamine overload sometimes resulting in insomnia. So SWIM is also prescribed Alprazolam (Xanax) for his anxiety and taking even the smallest dose is very effective for eliminating all anxiety. It and other benzodiazepines effectively eliminate most negative parts of a comedown (they may not work as well for the depression), but because SWIM also has delayed sleep-phase disorder unless it's his natural time to go to sleep he's usually still unable to sleep. SWIM has been previously prescribed Lorazepam (Ativan), and Clonazepam (Klonopin) for the same reason, and both can also be effective for comedowns.

In the case of people who get anxious on comedowns, Benzos will be most effective. It is indeed safe to take benzodiazepines such as alprazolam while using amphetamine, because their only interaction is the mutual mitigation of both drugs' effects. While it's a myth that "speed-balling" is deadly due to the drugs sending conflicting signals to the heart causing severe stress, it is still true that it can be dangerous and has taken many famous lives. Combining an "upper" (Cocaine, Amphetamine, etc.) with a "downer" (Benzos, Opioid/Opiates, etc.) isn't inherently any more dangerous than either of the 2 combined drugs are alone. However, because the 2 drugs cancel out the others stimulatory/depressing effects, you have to be very prudent with your dosing. You might feel like you're nowhere near overdosing on a benzo, and decide to keep taking more in an effort to maybe get as sedated as you normally would; but in reality, while you don't feel as sedated, this is only because of the amphetamine's mitigatory effects, if it wears off before the benzo, you can suddenly overdose without a chance to react. As long as you are just using the benzo to help with a comedown though, this shouldn't be as much of a danger (since Amphetamine has a long half life for stimulants, and benzos have short ones for depressants). In fact it is very common and routine for doctors to prescribe both adderall and a benzo to be taken together.

As for OTC sleep aids including diphenhydramine, melatonin, and 5HTP: Diphenhydramine is an effective antihistamine that can cause severe drowsiness, but this in no way guarantees that it will help someone sleep on a comedown. Amphetamine can effectively overcome it, and will likely leave you feeling more physically exhausted yet still unable to sleep until it leaves your system. Never take much more than the recommended dose for sleeping, as in even slightly higher doses diphenhydramine quickly becomes a very potent deliriant that keeps you awake. There's also a very harsh hangover from it the next day because it severely disrupts REM sleep cycles, preventing you from getting very restful sleep.
Melatonin supplements have never been conclusively proven to effectively aid in sleep especially if the person is on strong stimulants. While some studies suggest it can help certain people to a degree, this is only with people without a sleep disorder who take it on a regular basis (at least a few weeks). Melatonin supplements have been shown to be ineffective on people with primary and secondary sleep disorders. Melatonin has even been known to cause frequent nightmares at recommended doses, and is not known to be safe when used for longer than 3 months.
L-Tryptophan supplements are sold to aid sleep, but studies haven't shown it to be effective. The simple fact is it can't readily pass the blood-brain barrier and instead mostly metabolizes to serotonin in your liver. Serotonin has no effect on sleep while not in the brain, and while many anecdotal reports say tryptophan works, any potential minor effects are very unlikely to help you sleep on a comedown from a potent stimulant.
5-Hydroxytryptophan or 5-HTP is an intermediate metabolite of tryptophan and serotonin (a.k.a. 5-Hydroxytryptamine or 5-HT). 5-HTP is also sold as a sleep aid, and can readily pass the blood-brain barrier. Once in the brain it metabolizes to serotonin, which eventually becomes melatonin theoretically aiding sleep. While 5-HTP seems to be more effective than typtophan, taking it in higher doses is ineffective as excess 5-HTP gets almost completely metabolized in the liver. Once more, it is potentially dangerous to take with drugs like SSRI's and MAOI's, so amphetamine would probably not be a good idea either, just in case. Even if you do, like with the other sleep aid supplements, it's just highly unlikely such a weak sleep aid would actually help overcome an adderall comedown.

GHB, Ethanol, Barbiturates, and various other tranquilizers will be similar to benzos, but likely have more negative side effects. Barbituates may even be more effective, but can be very dangerous. Marijuana is probably not a good choice either, some people may find that they can smoke enough to help them sleep, but its mainly just gonna soften the comedown rather than eliminate it. For many people it can potentially have a very negative effect, greatly increasing anxiety and causing panic attacks. However there are some people who say that marijuana works perfectly for them. SWIM's personal favorite for completely ending a comedown, is pretty much any Opioid. Opiates are one of the only, really effective ways of ending the depression of a comedown. While they will probably make you feel like brand new, you probably won't feel like sleeping until a little later, depending on which opioid you take. Caffeine will most likely not help the depression much, lengthin the physical restlessness and increase anxiety. Simply re-dosing with more adderall may soften the comedown but unless you have built a strong tolorance to the physical effect of stimulants it will more likely lengthen the negative effects and increase anxiety. In the end the healthiest and safest way is just to plan on taking the adderall at a time that won't interfere with your sleep.

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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

Well, my new Siberian tiger apparently like to get adderall from his buddy. My tiger 50mg of XR adderall at noon approximately, and then at about 5:15pm he crushed up 2-10mg XR adderall and snorted those. He didn't figure taking them at these times would be a problem as he has taken 50mg XR at 3pm 3 or 4 times and has been able to get to bed by 1030 with the help of his muscle relaxer. So, my tiger still didn't seem tired at midnight but decided he'd go lay down anyways just to see if he could snooze off after taking 1-750mg Robaxin (which he was just prescribed about 4 hours before taking the adderall. He also took his 10mg oxycodone presribed to him at about 9pm.) So anyways, my tiger tried everything, he just laid there for about an hour and he was still awake, so he utilized some of his psychologist lessons in self hypnosis to use imagery to make himself tired, well it didn't work. So he then tried reading for the next hour, but after 4 hours total of being in bed, he gave up. So, what my tiger is wondering is why he couldn't manage to sleep at all, when he used to be able to sleep just about 7 hours after taking Adderall? He has to go through the day of school yet, which may prove to be tough, he's not really sure yet. Could he maybe have had an "adverse reaction" to the muscle relaxer?

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He also is on effexor for depression, and is really hoping that it is sufficient in keeping him awake, at least for the first part of the day. He is aware of the whole seratonin toxicity thing, but that is a different subject.

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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

SWIM just came across this thread.. an old but useful one! SWIM has been taking Rxed amphetamines for the last 4 months. SWIM noticed that he started to crash in the evenings somedays and also SWIM noticed that the crash wasn't getting better. SWIM has tried a few things for the comedown. Drug wise for SWIM.. weed,opiates,benzos. SWIM isn't a big fan of benzos on an AMPH comedown because they make SWIM feel like s**t! SWIM does however find cannabis and opiates to be very useful in any amphetamine comedown (as well as cocaine/ritalin for SWIM). SWIM knows that a bit of weed can take him right out of that "duh" feeling that SWIM gets coming off amphetamines. Some weed and SWIM can eat, relax and weed really stops an amph comedown for SWIM almost completely. Now opiates are great for SWIM too. 1 or 2 perks and SWIM is feeling ALOT better! Any opiate really helps SWIM come down soft. SWIM is all for weed to help take him off that grosse crash from amphs, It works as good.. actually better for SWIM than opiates in this regard. But if SWIM has a few opiates AND some weed then all the better he thinks. SWIM also knows that opiates are addictive..they messed up 3 years of SWIMs life. SWIM knows that no drug is going to get you mentally/physically back on track any quicker though. SWIM has a few vitamins he takes which help make him feel a heck of a lot better when he is crashing. SWIM takes a b vitamin complex, b3&b12 also separately, magnesium, vitamin C, selenium and zinc. SWIM knows that these vitamins/minerals help tremendously. When SWIM feels the crash coming on he takes about 1-2g of vitamin C and 500mg of magnesium.. these two are the main players for SWIM in helping him get back to normal fast when coming down from amphs. Also SWIM makes sure he gets some food in (protein and carbs), and water before taking any vitamin. SWIM knows this.. you need vitamins, you need food, you need sleep and SWIM enjoys moderate amounts of weed! the rest (for SWIM) is just a helper ..doesn't actually get your brain back to normal but dulls you.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

A nice, replaxing bath helps. Oh, and a benzo doesn't hurt either . . .
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

Linx finds that if he takes adderall past 10 or if the dose is 60mg XR plus he's probably not getting any sleep that night, unless he has something good to sedate him. First of all, drink orange juice to try an lower the absorption of the amphetamine in your blood stream to get this sleep process underway. Now by themselves, Benadryl, Tylenol PM, NyQuil, Vicodin, Trazodone...all shit. To Linx at least.

Xanax would be Linx's 1st choice, Valium works. Ativan...if enough is taken. Perkoset can work, or any good opiate (hydrocodone doesn't work so well for my feline friend, by that I mean it's complete and total shit and he doesn't do opes very often). Alcohol can help, but if Linx does this he has to get close to drunk or it doesn't really help. Ambien can work, it's also not before for my cat though. Well enough dosed edibles would probably do the trick in most cases.
If the adderall was taken early enough in the day and Linx has had a couple week break a bong sesh can help, especially if there's some water rocks thrown in on top. Linx also has luck with a bong sesh and crushing up 200mg or 300mg of trazodone and parachuting, makes him sleep in till about 1pm or 2pm the next day though with a lingering hangover. The weed probably wouldn't help doses over 80mg XR, unless maybe it was smoked for hours through a bong with a lowered tolerance...even then sometimes when Linx smokes after a high dose it actually boosts the amp from the adderall back up even when he's coming down. He's loaded himself up with a bunch of trazodone after this happened before to bring the energy level down though, not enough to get to sleep...but if he continued smoking after loading the traz he probably would've slept through the next day. Thinking about it now, just smoke some weed out of a bong, or a pipe if you really don't have much tolerance, with any opes (idk about hydrocodone), alcohol, ambien, or benzo and it'll prob have ya on a good journey towards shuteye. It'd probably even help if you drank a little extra NyQuil and hit the ganja. Hell, it actually might even help if you took about 200-300mg of Benadryl (do NOT substitute for Tylenol PM) and smoked some indica. You'd either sleep or start to trip and be really tired...this might not help as much if you smoke daily, but for those that don't Linx tells me he thinks it'd do the trick. Ever since he stopped smoking daily, took a month break and started smoking once a week or every two weeks he's found that with a good bong sesh, weed actually can be a strong experience, in the past he wouldn't have recognized this but for those few swimmers out there that have lower tolerances with Mary Jane, go ahead and grab yourself a bong or make yourself a gravity, pipes and bubblers just don't cut it (unless you like really have no tolerance, in which case you are extremely lucky!). Down some cough medicine anf light up! It might take a while of smoking till your ready to hit the sack, but sometimes weeds the easiest to find, or what's free. If you can get a friend to smoke you out but they don't have a bong and neither do you, make one. All the tools are in your house and garage. It can be the difference between staying up twacked all night with a worse comedown the next day (like my cat Linx has today) and being stoned and being able to drift off to sleep and get the luxury of waking up feeling normal the next day. Of course just smoking a shit ton of weed with no tolerance probably won't work if your little swimmer is one that likes to dose himself throughout the day or late in the day...or 60mg+ doses midday. If this sounds like your little drug fiend of a critter...I'd stock up on Xanax and Perkoset
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

To be plain and simple when my CAT SWIM gos on a adderall binge (100-250mg over a day span) and cant find sleep what he normally does is finds some benzo and muscle relaxers. my CAT swim says that 20mgs of Valium and 2mg of Adavin or xanax together works perfectly. If my cat cant find any benzos he takes Some (600mg) or flexeril (around 200mg) works just as good. but he says its not as fun. ALSO, my cat says Smoking grass on Adderall either during the comedown or when its kicking doesn't really help out, it makes it worse and a completely different feeling (witch my cat finds fun something but not for sleep). hoped this helps. :]
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

I realize this is an old post, but I guess my number one suggestion for dealing with an Adderall (or I suppose any stimulant) is to plan your use around a sleep schedule.

For example, I take 10 mg of Adderall IR twice a day usually (as prescribed). Every now and then I'll take an extra 10 mgs if I have to study. However, I plan the dose around what time I want to go to bed. Let's say I want to be asleep by no later than 1am. I'll take my last dose at around 7 or 8pm. Gives me the 5 hours of productiveness (I get around 5 hours out of Adderall IR since I'm still new to using it). If I happen to crash, which I don't always, at least I'm crashing at about 1am, exactly when I was planning on going to sleep.
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

WoW I'm impressed with everybody's answer's and how we all know what it's like, for me whether I'm taking Ritalin or Adderall, it never lasts more than three hours, I could actually take a nap after doing it. So if you take it in the morning, you may not have any problems sleeping. I realize I'm a little late at throwing my 2 cents in and have probably figured out what works best for you. Good luck with the studying
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Re: Adderall comedown suggestions

What my kitten Carl does to reduce the horrible crashing feeling is:

1.) Eat and drink tons of fluids.
2.) Smoke a little Mary J (:
3.) Take some around 75mg of Diphenhydramine ( benadryl )

Hope this helps

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