Side effects - Switching from Kadian to Opana

[YellowViolet]

I have tried again to switch from 30 mg Kadian twice a day to 40 mg Opana twice a day and Day #2 I felt like I was having withdrawals. Anyone know how to change from Kadian to Opana without withdrawal and why would one even have withdrawal from morphine to oxymorphone?

[motherlove1973]

I was just put on OPANA ER 20's and ir 5's and when I first started I felt really bad also. My doc told me it takes a few days to get into your system and then it stops. If you have any imediate release opiate try taking one, it will help. Good luck.

[MEKONE]

Originally Posted by uwllv88

I have tried again to switch from 30 mg Kadian twice a day to 40 mg Opana twice a day and Day #2 I felt like I was having withdrawals. Anyone know how to change from Kadian to Opana without withdrawal and why would one even have withdrawal from morphine to oxymorphone?

Are the Opanas Er or Ir? If they are Ir SWIM would talk to the Dr.as these are usually given ALONG WITH a med like Kadien for BT Pn.If they are Er still talk to the Dr. as perhaps he can also give SWIY the IR's as well.Good Luck!!!!

[motherlove1973]

Swim has been back to the doctopr and gotten the opana upped from 10's to 20'sER, and has been given 45 5 mg. IR's for breakthrough pain. Swim like them a little better but is really grumpy and has no energy at all. She is getting her adderall filled tomorrow so that may help. Do you think if swim asked to be knocked down to oxycontin that she would feel it as good as before, or will she be making a big mistake?Thanks a lot.

motherlove1973 added 1 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

So swiy felt really bad for a month because swim has also(3 weeks), swim is very short tempered and has no energy. Will this pass?

[duke9011]

SWIM was switched from Dilaudid to Opana and for about the first month or so he felt kinda like he was going through withdrawl and was having really bad nausea. Luckily for SWIM his doc prescribed him Zofran to get him through it until his body got used to the drug. It was pretty bad for SWIM and he went to the doc to ask him to go back to the Dilaudid but his doc convinced him to try it for another month and if he didn't like it then he would switch SWIM back. SWIM is soooo glad he stayed on the Opana. It helps his pain 1000x better than the Percocet or Dialudid ever did. SWIM loves his Opana and get imagine getting through his day without it.

[duke9011]

It defiantly passed for SWIM. The first month sucked pretty bad but now SWIM is so happy he stuck with it because he feels soooo much better on the Opana than he did on oxycodone or hydromorphone. So SWIM would recommend giving it another couple weeks because I'm assuming your doc switched you to Opana because the OC wasn't helping. You could also try asking your doc to prescribe some Zofran for the the nausea, that really helped SWIM. It's kinda expensive though so your insurance may not cover it.

[motherlove1973]

Swim will hang in there then. She actually had a good day yesterday and today,so maybe it is better when she takes her adderall with it. Swim was on oc a couple years ago but got off of it with methadone,and was only taking 10mg. percs(as far as swims doc knew) and is really surprised that her doc took her up this much. She actually liked the percs better, but did not get enough of them. I think it will get better for her though.

[duke9011]

Thats about what SWIM was on before he was switched to Opana but that was partly because of his pain doc. He probably should have been on a higher dose. He was on hydromorphone 4 mg 3x a day. Then his doc referred him to another pain doc for another opinion just because he wasn't comfortable prescribing for someone as young as SWIM (20 years old). The new pain doc had much more experience and took things in context with his meds. He said that since SWIM is going to school and doing very well and trying to figure out what was causing the pain he had no problem prescribing his meds while the figured it out. He switched SWIM to Opana ER 10mg 2x a day and IR 10 mg 4x a day. Since then SWIM has cut the IR down to twice a day and is feeling so much better than he ever did on the hydromorphone. So hang in there it will get better.

[motherlove1973]

Swiy is really young to have to be on this medicine(swim am so much older,35,lol). It is sad that they have to deal with pain at such a young age and the thought of opiates for the rest of their days,isnt't it? Swim wonders what will happen when they develop a huge tolorance to all opiates?

[YellowViolet]

Originally Posted by motherlove1973

Swiy is really young to have to be on this medicine(swim am so much older,35,lol). It is sad that they have to deal with pain at such a young age and the thought of opiates for the rest of their days,isnt't it? Swim wonders what will happen when they develop a huge tolorance to all opiates?

I wonder in my swim's case if it would be good to use methadone to get off the opana & oxys for awhile - then if some swim were to get back on them wouldn't it be like starting all over with that very first time?
I don't know how methadone works, does one take it to get off opiates without withdrawals? Then how does one get over methadone, are there no withdrawls when one gets off that? If swim were to keep taking the methadone for awhile for pain - wouldn't swim be able to stop the methadone without a problem and then get back on opana &/or oxys? I know if swim misses her nightly dose and takes her regular dose in the a.m. it works really good like it used to. So theoretically, I'm thinking it should work like this but really have no idea what I'm talking about LOL

[motherlove1973]

Swim was on methadone a few years back to get off oxycontin. It worked pretty good and weaned herself off when she was ready(which was before the doctors).It was not hard for her to stop,mainly because she was ready and wanted to. Swim knows people who are just as bad on the methadone though. She stopped all use for a few months, and one day her mom gave her a percocet and it felt so good to her that since her mom did not take hers,swim did. Then swim went back to the doc and told him how much "pain" she was in and he started her back on the same path she was on before,AGHHH!

[duke9011]

Originally Posted by motherlove1973

Swiy is really young to have to be on this medicine(swim am so much older,35,lol). It is sad that they have to deal with pain at such a young age and the thought of opiates for the rest of their days,isnt't it? Swim wonders what will happen when they develop a huge tolorance to all opiates?

I know SWIM isn't exactly thrilled to be on this medicine. The problem is SWIM has had 4 major surgeries since he was 13 and because of that had developed a high tolerance to opiates before this pain even started. Now that SWIM is having this pain the regular run of the mill opiates weren't helping him at all. What's even worse is that he's scheduled for a 5th major surgery next month and the thing is this is either gonna help him and get rid of, or at least lessen, the pain or its just going to send his opiate tolerance even higher and leave him even deeper into this bottomless pit. SWIM would love to get off of the shit all together but he's a double major in school right now and trying to get into med school so he can't just lay around in pain all day.