Smoking - Crack Smoking Techniques and Various Technical Questions

[jdrug]

Originally Posted by ai

First of all sWIM knows al
ot of crack smokers and everyone has their own opinion on "how to take a hit"... do you hold it slow, do you turn the pipe, hit it hard, hold it down, hold it up, etc, small peices, smoke most of it at once (xxx rocks no less). SWIM is just confused.

Not sure what the question is here -- there are different opinions and techniques, but swiy seems to understand this so perhaps the question can be clarified. This has been discussed in other threads and the search feature can be used to find several such threads and posts; here are a few:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25414
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17861
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...7&postcount=49

Originally Posted by ai

SWIM's other question is, the pipe itself, he can push the chore all day long, but he can tell he's sucking air... and you know what sucking air can do to your hit.

No, don't know what sucking air can do. It seems necessary to have some airflow thru the screen. What is the question?

[ai]

I mean, you need to suck air, but in the mist of taking a hit, if you rlungs are filled ith more air than smoke, you loose alot of thie power of the hit..

[jdrug]

Originally Posted by ai

I mean, you need to suck air, but in the mist of taking a hit, if you rlungs are filled ith more air than smoke, you loose alot of thie power of the hit..

Perhaps the hits are too hard or too long or too small. Perhaps the screen is too small or packed too loose. The search feature can be used to find several threads and posts discussing this type of thing...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7827
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8793
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=766

[beena]

SWIM told me the best pipe she ever smoked was on a minature jack daniels bottle with the bottom hollowed out and gauze placed in the neck of the bottle. SWIM's friend introduced her to the technique. A reasonable amount of substance was put on the gauze and melted, then SWIM began to pull (inhale) gently on the bottle/pipe and turn slowly at the same time whilst friend lit it for her (SWIM has notoriously bad coordination), then SWIM pulled hard got loads of smoke and finally held in for as long as humanly possible. And then . . . heaven! SWIM had been smoking a number of years and this wasn't the most gear she had ever loaded a pipe with but it was certainly one of the best hits. SWIM would highly reccomend this.
SWIM doesn't have a pipe (sigh) so improvises with a bottle of water/foil/pen. When doing it this way SWIM tells me that she pulls gently at first (till loads of smoke fills the space), then really hard and holds in a long time. Hope this helps. SWIY should just keep experimenting and find what works best for him or her.

[ai]

after a couple of months of Research and Development, sWIM has figured out the problem...

SWIM has the worst nerves you have ever seen. He uses a glass pipe and about 60% of the time he is sucking in air because the lighter is no where near the pipe.

sWIM is going to score about an 8ball of it tomorrow and try two different pipes.. a bong out of a plastic coke bottle and what was just described.

[madlost]

I am so bad at this shit...I broke my glass pipe on one end and can't pack the screens properly.

What to do?

Any advice?

[madlost]

anyone??

[Alicia]

SWIM's heart bleeds for you that you are openly saying online that you your pipe in which SWIY is smoking crack is broken. .

please note rules. also SWIM sure its not that difficult to fix really.


SWIM <-

[nonlinear]

this happened to SWIM about a week ago when he had just picked up an eight ball. you have a few choices, depening on what supplies u have laying around and how crappy of hits u can accept.

the easiest is the pop can pipe, of couse.

if you have tin foil, tape, pen/straw, plastic bottle, and cig ashes u can make a plastic bottle pipe.

How much of the pipe is left? SWIM doesn't like smoking out of metal, but was albe to fasten about 2.5 inches of his broken glass piece onto the end of a metal tube about 2 inches in ehgth. the hits taste about the same as from a glass pipe. for this u need ur broken pipe, a tube about same diameter, tin foil, wire or saftey pins, and needlenose pliers.

u could also use a light bulb or test tube.

lemme know if you need instruciotns on any of these, I can ask SWIM

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by madlost

I am so bad at this shit...I broke my glass pipe on one end and can't pack the screens properly.

What to do?

Any advice?

Breaking is common and happens to most people in a short period of time. Just use it while broken, but carefully.

Re: packing properly, just takes a bit of practice.

[madlost]

swim not a pro no matter how much practice...lol

[Chunkz]

try wrapping some soft material around broken part(if it's the mouthpeice).

[str8ballin]

Glass is really easy to break which is caused by leaving the flame on the pipe for too long.What you wanna do is take the flame on and off the pipe as you're hitting it.You don't need it constantly on the pipe all the time.So hit it,wave the flame off,then bring it back,and keep doing that.If it does happen to break just move the filter to the other end that isnt broken and that way you can pack it tightly.Just be careful hitting from the broken end.

[nonlinear]

Is this just to hold it in so it doesn't fall out, or is there another reason?

thanks

[markdahman]

swim says he starts it with the pipe like such __l_l ...then once it melts in he turn the pipe so the bowl faces the ground n put the lighter right under the bowl n slowly burns it like usual... Dont do this is ur using ashes.

[Nicaine]

Also so it doesn't do any loud crackling. And controlled melting is better than melting while hitting (which can suck the melted rock right through the filter without vaporizing all of it)

[str8ballin]

You melt the rock so when you go to hit it won't fall out.You're not wasting it by doing this since it all just melts down into the filter.Then you hold the pipe downward and rotate it in a circle and slowly puff on it and you'll get massive smoke.

[Nicaine]

Anyone dumb, poor or cheap enough to use a foil pipe or aluminum can for smoking rock, here's how to exploit the situation. See if SWIY can get their hands on it after the party... just toss it in the trash or something, as if it were worthless. A neglected, resinated glass pipe is also a good candidate.

Later, SWIY should check it out closely. There should be a good deal of sticky resin inside... some darkish in color, some lighter. This can be smoked directly by scraping it off (or just tearing off pieces of the foil & smoking it in another pipe), but SWIM has a different idea.

Cut up the resinated foil into small pieces, and put in the bottom of a 20 to 50ml beaker. Add about 5ml water, and 10-15 drops of 30% muriatic (hydrochloric) acid. Stir, stir, stir for at least five minutes. Heating the solution would probably convert freebase to HCL better, but it's probably too dangerous to do at home. Remove the foil VERY carefully (SWIM tried this and actually felt the pain of acid burning his fingers... not good, don't use fingers).

(A) To make powder: Take the acidic H2O and pour it into an evaporation plate. Evaporate in the microwave for a few minutes, or warm oven for several hours. When completely dry, scrape the plate. Contents should be fairly pure cocaine HCL, altho it may be a funny color and have carbonated resins in it from being previously smoked. Should be eminently snortable, in terms of getting high. If it isn't, the acid wasn't strong enough and it's still in freebase (smokable) form.

(B) To make rock: Add small amounts of baking soda slowly/gradually to the acidic H2O... it should fizz like crazy.

When it's stops fizzing after you add the last bit of baking soda, cook the liquid up normally (with a bit more baking soda added) and SWIY should have crack. It's also possible to go through step (A) first and re-dissolve the powder... actually that's a better technique, but slower and kind of a PITA.

[nonlinear]

SWIM tried this earlier today and it didn't work very well. He had a straight shooter that had about a half gram smoked through it (he didn't want to risk wasting a bunch of resin). He put it into the h20/hcl solution as described above, and shook it for about 5 minutes. all of the resin was cleaned from the pipe. he then added baking soda until the fizzing stopped.

he let the solution dry on a plate and got the white crystals that you describe (powder). However, he had WAY more powder than he had resin in his pipe. He assumes this is from the baking soda that was added in to neutralize the HCl?

Then, he wanted to cook that powder. He dissolved the powder into distilled water, and added a bit more baking soda, and heated while swirling of course. he used about a 1:5 ratio of baking soda to powder, because he figured the powder would have a really low concentration. The cooking process yielded nothing except for some water with a bit of baking soda at the bottom.

Any idea what went wrong here? he has a lot of resin that he would like to recook into rock. Can you give some indication of how much hcl to use for how much resin? because you say to use 5 ml h20 and 10-15 drops 30% hcl, however I would think that you would want to adjust this depending on how much resin. e.g. if you have a very small amount of resin, you will be adding a lot of baking soda and be left with a lot of powder that has very low concentration of cocaine... is this making any sense?

thanks!

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by nonlinear

SWIM tried this earlier today and it didn't work very well. He had a straight shooter that had about a half gram smoked through it (he didn't want to risk wasting a bunch of resin). He put it into the h20/hcl solution as described above, and shook it for about 5 minutes. all of the resin was cleaned from the pipe. he then added baking soda until the fizzing stopped.

So far so good...

he let the solution dry on a plate and got the white crystals that you describe (powder). However, he had WAY more powder than he had resin in his pipe. He assumes this is from the baking soda that was added in to neutralize the HCl?

Possibly... did SWIY try tasting this powder? Baking soda is instantly recognizable of course, as is the taste of coke...

Then, he wanted to cook that powder. He dissolved the powder into distilled water, and added a bit more baking soda, and heated while swirling of course. he used about a 1:5 ratio of baking soda to powder, because he figured the powder would have a really low concentration. The cooking process yielded nothing except for some water with a bit of baking soda at the bottom.

Any idea what went wrong here?

Probably too much baking soda, plus just not enough resin to make much difference. That's all SWIM can think of.

he has a lot of resin that he would like to recook into rock. Can you give some indication of how much hcl to use for how much resin?

SWIM recommends something different: Scrape all the resin (if it needs to), and put it in a spoon with some ammonia. Heat the ammonia (cook it in the spoon) and rerock it that way. Add a little cold water after cooking & using a stretched out paper clip or something to form up the rock and remove it from the ammonia. Baking soda does get to be a major PITA... just make sure to let the rock dry COMPLETELY or SWIY will be smoking ammonia.

[nonlinear]

thanks for the help! SWIM has been wanting to be able to recook resin for a long time, and he REALLY appreciates your suggestions. He will try both ways soon and I will post his results here.

thanks again!

[madlost]

Swim was wonderin if smokin night after night in the same room after awhile kills the high? Swim has been smoking past 4 nights and 3rd and 4th night just are not the same. Any opionions?

[idr0p]

its called tolerance, swim welcomes swiy to his world 8)

[Micklemouse]

Originally Posted by idr0p

its called tolerance, swim welcomes swiy to his world 8)

Not much more to say really.

[madlost]

Wow no opinions huh? swim very surprised!