Smoking - Crack Smoking Techniques and Various Technical Questions

[zero]

Straight professional. He's using 2 matches.

No doubt... crack is wack. If you can hold yourself to doing it once in a blue moon and also prepare yourself, it's all good, I think.

Every once in awhile, SWIM will do it. He always makes sure he never exceeds 1/16th and when he's down to a few blasts he takes 1 or 2 ladders (xanax) and calls it a night. No grievous comedown.

[zero]

I mean, that kind of pipe will work but it's not very efficient. You'll waste alot of the leftovers. It's really easy to make and effective straight shooter that you can get the push from.

[upthebracket]

excuse me for my ignorance, but: ash?? can someone explain? is ash necessary? ash from what? is this something SWIM needs to know?

[Divalici0us]

Originally Posted by upthebracket

excuse me for my ignorance, but: ash?? can someone explain? is ash necessary? ash from what? is this something SWIM needs to know?

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Otherwise it wil leak

[MegaLab420]

Crack cocaine is a horrible substance that destroys lives. Imagine if every hit of crack on the stret magically turned into hits of LSD!! Wouldn't the streets be cleaner?!!

[zero]

Originally Posted by MegaLab420

Crack cocaine is a horrible substance that destroys lives. Imagine if every hit of crack on the stret magically turned into hits of LSD!! Wouldn't the streets be cleaner?!!

You are almost definitely right, but why are you in the cocaine forum and not the phenethylaine forum then?

[jdrug]

I've read posts on this site that indicate a hit should be held as long as possible. I've also read elsewhere that the "hold as long as possible" method is a common procedure. However, I recently came across some articles and posts that say this isn't the case and that a hit should be held for 10-15 seconds and then slowly exhaled through the nose to get the best affect. Of course everyone is different, but it seems so simple yet so complicated.

SWIM was taught to take a big hit and hold it for 45 seconds or as long as possible, but it is a big world so it makes swim wonder what other ideas and methods exist. SWIM has seen some take a hit and look very tense and strained while holding as long as possible and completely out of breath when exhaling -- seems like a lot of work...

(the basic assumption is a straight shooter with a screeen)

Is this just a case of experimentation and to each his own or are there consistently better ways?

[KomodoMK]

SWIMs friends usually hold it in as long as possible, sometimes taking in a bit more air through the mouth to aid in holding it in longer.

I have also known people to hold for 20-30 seconds then exhale into an airtight bag and then inhale that air for a second time. Not sure if this has any benefit though to be honest.

[jdrug]

Originally Posted by KomodoMK

SWIMs friends usually hold it in as long as possible, sometimes taking in a bit more air through the mouth to aid in holding it in longer.

Do the friends of swiy appear to be struggling while holding it in? SWIM says he has a friend who seems to have trouble inhaling and exhaling -- she takes several seconds to catch her breath after exhaling. SWIM says she's not a smoker and he figures she's not inhaling properly.

Originally Posted by KomodoMK

I have also known people to hold for 20-30 seconds then exhale into an airtight bag and then inhale that air for a second time. Not sure if this has any benefit though to be honest.

SWIMs never tried the air bag/balloon thing but has heard it doesn't really work as the exhaled smoke doesn't have much of the good stuff in it, but who knows?

[KomodoMK]

Nope they do not appear to have any trouble holding it in. SWIM is not a smoker and when he used to do it had no trouble either. This is with the soda bottle, foil and ash method.

Maybe she is sucking to hard and/or not smoothly whilst burning?

[LuLu]

SWIM hits his pipe slowly but steadily, not to the point that he can't inhale anymore, but close. Seems like hitting it real hard burns the screen up faster. He always holds it for about 15-20 seconds. Don't think theres much use in holding it any longer, if you do you'll be getting a buzz from lack of oxygen! Since SWIM uses stainless steel for his pipe and screen, it gets very hot, so he keeps some ice handy to cool it off with. This keeps the resin in the pipe from burning up so he can get some good "pushes".

[klaatu]

I asked my friend Swim about this. He tells me that he is fortunate (?) in that he can hold his breath for a loooooooooong time quite easily. When he first started smoking crack he would hold his breath for what he thought was a comfortable time but the people with him would get freaked out and kept saying "Just breathe, please just breathe man".

He also tried re-breathing into a bag but after a while stopped doing this because it simply didn't seem to have any beneficial effect.

After talking about this for a while his opinion was that everyone is likely to be different. Some people can hold the smoke for a long time, others for less time. Whichever applies to you he advised that you simply so what's comfortable for you. Either way enough Cola will be absorbed via the lungs to make it a nice experience. Holding your breath to gain an extra atom or two of Cola isn't likely to make a huge difference.

Klaatu

[jdrug]

Originally Posted by klaatu

When he first started smoking crack he would hold his breath for what he thought was a comfortable time but the people with him would get freaked out and kept saying "Just breathe, please just breathe man".

Bingo! That's the thing, she appears to be trying so hard it is almost painful and scary. Even inhaling, to some it seems like a normal relaxing cigarette, but man why would someone tense up so much: shoulders go up and back, neck muscles strain, body shakes, etc. -- just doesn't seem right and someone suggested it is being inhaled somehow into the stomach instead of the lungs, but that doesn't sound right...

Originally Posted by klaatu

After talking about this for a while his opinion was that everyone is likely to be different. Some people can hold the smoke for a long time, others for less time. Whichever applies to you he advised that you simply so what's comfortable for you.

Thanks Klaatu, I figured as much on the everyone's different and maybe smaller bumps and less effort make the most sense. The beast still seems to grab a hold...

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by jdrug

Bingo! That's the thing, she appears to be trying so hard it is almost painful and scary. Even inhaling, to some it seems like a normal relaxing cigarette, but man why would someone tense up so much: shoulders go up and back, neck muscles strain, body shakes, etc. -- just doesn't seem right and someone suggested it is being inhaled somehow into the stomach instead of the lungs, but that doesn't sound right...

Obviously... the high (rush) is taking effect while the person is holding the hit in their lungs. SWIM believes it shouldn't be held too long, as the body will need adequate oxygen as the stuff takes effect. Particularly the heart. Holding too long could be hazardous to one's health. Tell SWIY's friend not to hold the hit in for so long.

[jdrug]

Originally Posted by Nicaine

SWIM believes it shouldn't be held too long, as the body will need adequate oxygen as the stuff takes effect.

Thanks Nicaine, that seems like solid advice. It seems some read and hear about that "bell ringer", seem almost disappointed when it isn't there, and suck way too hard, hold it way too long, and end up with a worse (and potentially more dangerous) result. SWIM knows that feeling and wonders what's worse: trying to get it one more time or being frustrated that it isn't all it's cracked up to be (pun intended). I suppose the latter is better as it seems one would eventually find it futile and give up the hunt...

[torr_aox]

SWIM hasn't tried the bag trick, but shotgunning (preferably with a very attractive lady friend) gives a little buzz. Not as strong as hitting the pipe, but not nothing either

[klaatu]

Originally Posted by torr_aox

SWIM hasn't tried the bag trick, but shotgunning (preferably with a very attractive lady friend) gives a little buzz

I simply have to ask - what's "shotgunning" ?

Klaatu

[kailey_elise]

Originally Posted by klaatu

I simply have to ask - what's "shotgunning" ?

Klaatu

It's inhaling the smoke (of whatever substance you choose) and instead of just blowing it out into the room, blowing it into the mouth of a friend. When done right, you should look like you're almost kissing, although you can completely touch lips if you're close enough (relationship-wise) to the other person.

~K.Elise

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Thanks for the shotgunning explanation :-)

[klaatu]

Originally Posted by kailey_elise

It's inhaling the smoke (of whatever substance you choose) and instead of just blowing it out into the room, blowing it into the mouth of a friend. When done right, you should look like you're almost kissing, although you can completely touch lips if you're close enough (relationship-wise) to the other person.

~K.Elise

Thanks for the shotgunning explanation Kailey. It's something I have done before (naturally using only legal smoke-producing things) and I never knew it was called that.

See? Even when you are almost 85 years old like me you can still learn a thing or two on here

Klaatu

[stilettogirl]

In my opinion, it is best to inhale deeply and hold your breath for as long as possible. Once you exhale, take another hit right after so you get double the pleasure. Not making a full commitment to holding it for as long as possible has led to a mediocre encore performance.

[Danc9552003]

Originally Posted by stilettogirl

In my opinion, it is best to inhale deeply and hold your breath for as long as possible. Once you exhale, take another hit right after so you get double the pleasure.

SWIM totally agrees with you, he loves to take a big hit, and right as he blows it out he already has another, bigger hit ready. Doing this will likely get SWIM that feeling right away


P.S. Stilettogirl, read this thread about self incrimination- http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17833

[stilettogirl]

Thank you, Danc. Duly noted. Perhaps SWIM should have added that this is what I read.

[Danc9552003]

Originally Posted by stilettogirl

...Perhaps SWIM should have added that this is what I read.

That's perfect You gotta love it. Anyways, SWIM just got a hold of some really good coke and tried to rock some of it up, with not too great of a result. The couple hits he got out of it were good, and the rest he did on foil. Also, SWIM will sometimes take a big breathe in, exhale every last bit of air and wait a couple seconds so his body starts to run low on oxygen. When SWIM takes a big hit after that it seems to hit him harder

[Revo]

SWIM was wondering because before when SWIM used to smoke heavy SWIMs smoke partner always said you wanna hold the hit for about 10-20secs then exhale quick not slow like weed was she right or does it matter. SWIM is curious and just took a big hit lol

[Revo]

I dont want to bump but even expierences or theories would be nice