Drug info - what other species of Morning Glory contain LSA?

[brega]

All i have found on the internet says that Ipomoea violacea is the only MG species that is psychoactive. But what about the many other species in the Ipomoea family? do they all contain LSA? Has someone tried other species?
The reason I ask is because Ipomoea orchaea grows wild in abundance where I live.

[DarkDead]

Hi.
Ipomoea violacea (Morning Glory Pearly Gates) is said to be the specie with the higher amount of alkaloids. There is also Ipomoea tricolor (Morning Glory Heavenly Blue) which as a similar amount as Ipomoea violacea and is also worth consuming.
Give a look at this chart from Erowid:

                            LAA%    Total Alks. % by weight

Hawaiian baby wood rose:    0.04    0.30
Ololiuqui:                  0.02    0.04
Heavenly Blue:              0.01    0.02
Pearly Gates:               0.02    0.03
Wedding Bells:              0.01    0.03

Other species are reported to have residual quantitys of alkaloids. With those swiy would have to eat so much seeds that the side effects (like nausea and vasoconstriction) would be too risky. Swiy might end in the hospital with shortenage of breath.
However there are sucessfull reports of extractions from one of those species: Ipomoea indica, aka Ipomoea acuminata or Ipomoea volubilis.

I couldn't find anything about Ipomoea orchaea. Is swiy sure this is the right name? Could you ask swiy for a photo?

P.S: Read the rules about self incrimination. Ask a mod to edit your post.

[brega]

Thank's for the info.; seems like maybe all species of Ipomoea have alkaloids. Sorry about not writing the post correctly. Yes the name was wrong, it's: Ipomoea ochracea. Any info. about experiences with other species will help alot.

[DarkDead]

I found a lot of botanical information about Ipomoea ochracea (Fence Morning Glory). But not even a single trip report or mention to it's alkaloid content.
It is quite similar to Ipomoea tricolor: the shape of leaves, flowers and seeds is exactly the same only the flower's color changes. However this means nothing about the quantity of alkaloids it might have.

Originally Posted by brega

seems like maybe all species of Ipomoea have alkaloids

Yes and no. As I said in the last post some species have only residual amounts making them unworthy to consume.

If swiy is really tempted to try these seeds I would advise him to ingest a low amount, something like 5g or so. Check for side effects and then work from there.
A better ideia would be to try a A/B extraction of the LSA from the seeds and see if swiy could get anything.
Don't forget to report your results.

[brega]

Ok, swiy is going to try it out. you say about 5g? can you post some links or tell swiy which are best procedures to extract the psychoactive chemicals?
swiy knows about the lighter fluid then alcohol method, but is this safe?

[DarkDead]

Yes, 5g seems ok. There are 3 major types of extractions that work with Morning Glory seeds: CWE (cold water extraction), polar/non-polar and A/B (acid/base).
The best choice depends on what materials swiy can get and he's experience. The A/B extraction gets the most pure products but swiy has to measure pH, use a separatory funnel (or something that does the job) and should somehow be used to work with chemicals.
On the other hand a polar/non-polar could be done by the average Joe. As long as he reads all the information and proceeds carefully, always on the safe side.
Search on the forum, figure out how these extractions work, and then swiy can decide what is best for him.
Making sure all the nasty solvents (naphta, ether, etc.) evapore and leave no residues before proceding to the next step makes the extractions generally safe. Swiy should have no problems consuming the stuff.