Best drug for wild, animalistic, uninhibited sex?

[PitfromGreece]

SWIM has not have much experience mixing drugs and sex, but SWIM's best combination was snorting a little coce while he had taken couple hours ago 1.5gr of phenibut, the same was true with his female friend.

[Benga]

critter would say a dose sensitive combination G.H.B. or G.B.L. (which works on the inhibition part) plus some strong stimulant such as cocaine or amphetamine or some R.C.'s ( ones which works on that dopamine rush, energy and inhibition). "fight or flight" erections issues should be worked on with some kind of vaso-dilatator. Throwing low doses of sildenafil or tadalafil in the mix is of course an extra load on the body (though not as bad as one might think), but also good precaution for potential penetrative purposes...

some other more psychedelic R.C.'s are reported to be really aphrodisiac, but this is a much more delicate area to explore. Even a relatively stable substance like methylone, is for the critter extremely arousing until the peak, then leaves him sexless in the aftermath, very little interested in sex for a few days.

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thks alot very useful and informative comment.. really apreciated

[Routemaster Flash]

SWIM hasn't had the opportunity to try sex on speed, but had a pretty good time on it by himself once, if you see what he means - definite potential there, it's well known for it after all.

From personal experience SWIM would recommend yohimbe plus cannabis; both drugs provide extra sensitivity while the weed helps mellow out the caffeine-like stimulation from the yohimbe, without dampening the extra energy it gives you.

[PanSapiens]

Benga is very irresponsible for recommending combining vasoconstrictor (amphetamine, coke) with vasodilator. So is cra$h for recommending speedball (same thing, if I have the lingo right).

This killed a friend of mine. Acute myocardial infarction in his 20s. Also killed River Pheonix, et al.

Just don't do it! Keep your vasoconstrictors and vasodilators seperate!

[Benga]

Originally Posted by PanSapiens

Benga is very irresponsible for recommending combining vasoconstrictor (amphetamine, coke) with vasodilator. So is cra$h for recommending speedball (same thing, if I have the lingo right).

This killed a friend of mine. Acute myocardial infarction in his 20s. Also killed River Pheonix, et al.

Just don't do it! Keep your vasoconstrictors and vasodilators seperate!

not recommending it per se ( original post http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...97&postcount=2).

the combination is potentially problematic, as it could potentially induce stress/wear blood vessels walls due to rapid changes in diameter.
hence the mention of body load, and low doses. yet this is not a short term effect, ie one which will induce a stroke like death.



yet the broad association with speedballs sounds a little broad and erronated to me.
here's a repost from the thread on the sildenafil citrate (viagra) + stimulant combination.

Originally Posted by snapper

stimulants cause vasoconstriction, so the mechanism is not the same.
SWIM thinks that it would be dangerous if thevascular volume (ie fluid in the blood vessels) is low. If the heart is beating fast, and blood pressure is high, and you suddenly increase the space in your blood vessels, it could cause the heart to be unable to push blood due to decreased preload. The solution to this would be to drink a lot of fluid. Dehydration would be the most likely cause of a cardiac event. However, past that, SWIM cannot think of a big contraindication, though SWIM would not recommend this combo to anyone since it could be a problem via the mechanism mentioned above or another one SWIM does not understand.

if swiyou has more details to add to the discussion of the actual mechanism at play, going beyond the warning, please absolutely *do so* in this thread.

cocaine and sildenafil ( viagra)

thanks

if you do read this thread, I think you'll find that we've used appropriate caveats, but are also trying to understand what is really at play here with the sildenafil and cocaine combo. and the mechanism is not "the same" as with "speedballs", and not as life threatening as it is often presented.

sorry for the off topic slide, again, such combo has not been "recommended" per se, but is mentioned with warnings, low doses, after cocaine or stimulant has worn off, and plenty of liquids.

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[respectspowders]

Swim reckons Amphetamines absolutely no contest... if this is being based on pure raw sexual disinhibition, completely weird and insatiable, and often distinctly homoerotic sexual desires... this is reverting to ape level it isn't about love for swim.
MDMA for the more pure lovey and connected feelings. However swim find mataining erections without chemical intervention difficult... swims vet says it's not particulalry unsafe to take viagra etc with stimulants...swim is prescribed dextroamphetamine and viagra. This is indeed a very different combination level of risk to injecting unknown levels ofstreet smack and speed simultaneously,whilst already being severly intoxicated with alcohol... seems like a little too many erroneous infarances are being formed and given as medical facts by some in this thread.

[Alfa]

Note that a dose of yohimbe that is too high will result in a very un-sexy situation.

[Routemaster Flash]

Originally Posted by Alfa

Note that a dose of yohimbe that is too high will result in a very un-sexy situation.

Well that goes for any drug, surely. SWIM doesn't bother with loose bark powder, he just gets the little capsules so he knows how much he's taking.

[cra$h]

a speedball. Swim hasn't done E, or any RC's (hopefully changing that soon) but cocaine for the wild aspect, and opiates for the intense orgasm. Plus they both make you last longer. Swim's had them both individually, but togeather, DAMN! sounds like a good night. Some Nine Inch Nails in the background would be nice too. Closer? What a perfect song!

[PitfromGreece]

a speedball. Swim hasn't done E, or any RC's (hopefully changing that soon) but cocaine for the wild aspect, and opiates for the intense orgasm. Plus they both make you last longer. Swim's had them both individually, but togeather, DAMN! sounds like a good night. Some Nine Inch Nails in the background would be nice too. Fuck you like an animal? What a perfect song!

Yea this sounds good. This is why SWIM wanted to add kratom in his coca wine for a similar although milder feeling. There are any problems combining coke with opiates?

[Benga]

Originally Posted by PitfromGreece

Yea this sounds good. This is why SWIM wanted to add kratom in his coca wine for a similar although milder feeling. There are any problems combining coke with opiates?

yes,cocaine and opiates is actually a very dangerous combination.
yet mixing some coca and some kratom is really something else, since kratom isn't actually an opiate, and cocaine concentrations absorbed from coca leaves are very low.
yet there is another issue, the kratom+ alcohol combination is not a very good one, and really dosage sensitive.
if the dosage ( for one's metabolism) isn't right this can lead to very heavy nausea, vomitting-- a very unsexy time.

in one of the critter's first kratom experiences, he misdjudged the potency and dose of a kratom extract, and had a few beers. fun at first, then the night was a nightmare, with waves of nausea, followed by inability to sleep and pretty ugly symptoms. of course this was a near kratom overdose, which is entirely the critter's fault. But others will confirm that even in more reasonable doses, the kratom and alcohol combo is a potentially unstable one, so it's better to be quite conservative in this case to avoid any unintended descent into the vaults of emetophila and scatology

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[PitfromGreece]

yes,cocaine and opiates is actually a very dangerous combination.
yet mixing some coca and some kratom is really something else, since kratom isn't actually an opiate, and cocaine concentrations absorbed from coca leaves are very low.
yet there is another issue, the kratom+ alcohol combination is not a very good one, and really dosage sensitive.
if the dosage ( for one's metabolism) isn't right this can lead to very heavy nausea, vomitting-- a very unsexy time.

in one of the critter's first kratom experiences, he misdjudged the potency and dose of a kratom extract, and had a few beers. fun at first, then the night was a nightmare, with waves of nausea, followed by inability to sleep and pretty ugly symptoms. of course this was a near kratom overdose, which is entirely the critter's fault. But others will confirm that even in more reasonable doses, the kratom and alcohol combo is a potentially unstable one, so it's better to be quite conservative in this case to avoid any unintended descent into the vaults of emetophila and scatology

This was useful, if we go again in the coca, blue lotus wine SWIM is still not sure what to add for the uninhibited feeling. Kratom does not sound good both for the taste and the probable negative effects, and blue lotus does not seem that would have strong effects, not that a coca wine will be the best for wild, uninhibited sex, but it surely would be fun.

[Wierd Logic]

Squirrells personal favorite in combination with sex happens to be cannabis edibles - but it wouldnt be described as "wild and animalistic", more "pure and mind-blowing pleasure".

[fnord]

DOx while it might be a bit troubling at first to get it up on higher doses,swiy and his lady friend will dose out and spend hours going crazy in the dark,tripping out crazy CEV's IV 5-meo_dmt was quite pleasurable too!

DOM is prefereed and DOC comes in a close second.

[nate81]

SWIM's favorite was low dose foxy methoxy. Stupid DEA ruined that one

[PitfromGreece]

5-meo_dmt was quite pleasurable too!

You had sex on DMT? please describe!

[RaverHippie]

My Raver friend always has uncontrollable sexual urges on LSD, and DOB also worked well sexually as Fnord suggested.

Originally Posted by PitfromGreece

You had sex on DMT? please describe!

5-MeO-DMT is different than DMT. Feel free to browse the forum to find out for yourself.

[Samadhi]

Swim has an extreme sexual push on mescaline, once while coming up (not sickening to swim, remember, he likes 5-MeO-AMT) him and his lady at the time had a romping time, swim was getting closed/slight open eye visuals and the MDMA-like push at the beginning of foreplay. it then became a 3+ hour experience of some of the best sex swim has ever had.

Due to a great deal of studying tantra (swim was a very odd 16 year old at one point in time...) Swim had/has the ability if focused enough to have sex for upwards of 3-4 hours without an orgasm... but when it happens... that is another story

Mescaline works AMAZINGLY for swim, the most he remembers of that 3+ hour experience is just the energy and passion that was put into the sex and oh so much more, nothing feels better than two people completely experiencing bodily pleasures whilst in the through of a psychedelic journey

[Richard_smoker]

There's no competition: MEPHEDRONE!!! (for boys AND girls!!!)

[wierdo]

my pet ferret asked me to relate the following for him:

i do not think that mephedrone is any good when it comes to libido or lust at all!
when i used it, in a period of perhaps 5 months or so last summer, i didn´t want to have almost any sex at all.
mephedrone kills nearly all feelings of love, lust and desire there is!
eventhough the effect from the drug otherwise was great, i liked the eufori and the rush you got.
but the sideeffects from using it a while, with an almost destroid nose, a sore throth and a tunge full of blisters. make me say that im never gonna try to use that drug again!

but now, when i´ve been using MDPV for a period of 5-6 w every day, my libido has risen sky high (i feel like im a teenager again)and i have experienced to reached higher levels of pleasure and feelings during sex, than on many other drugs, for example coccain.
so im recomanding MDPV for getting an increased libido and a really great sex experience
thats only my opinion
/wierdo

Originally Posted by Richard_smoker

There's no competition: MEPHEDRONE!!! (for boys AND girls!!!)

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Thanks for the contribution but please try not to self incriminate

[yaba]

Swim thinks MDMA with a bit of yaba or normal meth, fantastic !
@ Dick swim never had MEPHEDRONE but will one day...

[PitfromGreece]

There's no competition: MEPHEDRONE!!!

Maybe I am wrong, but I remember reading some of your posts describing SWIY experiences and seemed SWIY is experienced with a variety of drugs. Is this true of SWIY and especially with drugs+sex?

Why SWIY prefers MEPHEDRONE from all the drugs he had tried? Please asked him I am curious.

Is Mephedrone still legal? should SWIM buy some?

[Benga]

Originally Posted by PitfromGreece

Maybe I am wrong, but I remember reading some of your posts describing SWIY experiences and seemed SWIY is experienced with a variety of drugs. Is this true of SWIY and especially with drugs+sex?

Why SWIY prefers MEPHEDRONE from all the drugs he had tried? Please asked him I am curious.

Is Mephedrone still legal? should SWIM buy some?

yes, it's still legal in some places, but also potentially quite dangerous, and not really recommendable.
as for sex, though there is a definite arousal, some critters don't share the same experience on this one

for more info, please read


http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43273

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42323

[Richard_smoker]

ok...now, i've read and heard all the info about the dangers of mephedrone. and with that IN MIND, i'm simply answering the question...

if one want's to get HORNY AS HELL and still get an erection, and fuck (or masturbate) for 8+ hours, then i must be honest here and say MEPHEDRONE is THE SHIITTT!!!

[Benga]

Originally Posted by Richard_smoker

ok...now, i've read and heard all the info about the dangers of mephedrone. and with that IN MIND, i'm simply answering the question...

if one want's to get HORNY AS HELL and still get an erection, and fuck (or masturbate) for 8+ hours, then i must be honest here and say MEPHEDRONE is THE SHIITTT!!!

such matters are highly subjective. hate to have to give another bell chime, but in the light of such enthusiasm there's no other choice than bang the nail.
nope, critter finds he loses interest with mephedrone, to the point of going to sleep rather than climaxing ( happened a few times, a kind of boredom / loss of interest) ie the mephedrone stimulation becomes too distracting, the mind is turned off, cannot focus on sex, and actual physical pleasure less intense. confirmed by the last few experiences. blah. a tease and a let down. shallow, though the critter has nothing against pure epicurianism, mephedrone feels like it really doesn't fulfil its promises. a scam, a caricature of pleasure, a parody of aphrodisia, biting into a plastic hamburger.
critter's erotic stimulation is really disturbed with mephedrone. and then there's the side effects. this is pretty much the conclusion that the critter came to through his last experiences. last one was two weeks ago, rectal admin. blah, again. a let down because the substance once appeared promising, now the critter just has to accept that while it is pleasant, it is actually not recommended for his libido. much more fun to dance the night away. the shit ? nah, but shit, yes, for this critter.
a stimulant is always fun as it always one to stretch the boundaries, and dopamine kicks are great. but the mephedrone high is, in this critter's opinion, particularly muddy and actually counter)productive when it comes to sex. reasonable doses of amphetamines, or even cocaine are more interesting, especially in combination with something like GHB. even coca leaves + GBL was much more rewarding than mephedrone.
methylone is great, what a libido boost, but once the peak fads out, it leads to a total loss of interest in sex ( as in a let's paint or take a walk in the park instead kind of way), which lasts for a few days.

maybe the critter is too much of a sissy, but he's very discriminative when it comes to the effects of a substance and their effects on his sex drive. mephedrone, though initially promising, is now categorized as one great let down-- and potentially toxic fairy dust, ie one which physically and mentally leaves one with an after taste which is not overcome by "it'll just take a few days to sleap and eat this one away", lingering in a "look at you now, don't you feel that this one's not worth it ? how many times will you have to do it to permantly remind yourself of these flu like physical symptoms and discomfort, overwhelming fatigue, the mental roller coaster and other side effects that are screaming poison ! poison ! that's not a normal comedown ! it's common sense so cut the crap sonny" mode every time one does it...

but swiPetefromGreece should not take our words for it, as this is highly subjective. RC's are research material. Mephedrone ? Not recommendable, potentially dangerous, but there's only one way to find out if this one rocks swiyou's love boat...aye aye