Opinions - Any opinions on Lunesta (Eszopiclone)?

[Gappa]

I have a SEVERE sleep disorder. SWIM's doc had/has him on Klonipin. SWIM does not the idea of being on a Benzo for any period of time so he requested to try Lunesta 3mg tabs. It's supposed to knock you the fuck out for 7-8 hours but didn't do shit x-cept put a weird metallic taste in the back of my throat. Not to mention it costs $160 for 30 tabs... WTF??
Anyone got any advice on this BS??

[yaba]

Eszopiclone (lunesta) swim never used it but is on zopiclone 7.5mg and thinks zolpidem (ambien) is a lot better. Zopiclone doesn't seem to work after a tolerance..

[ATWA]

Originally Posted by Gappa

I have a SEVERE sleep disorder. SWIM's doc had/has him on Klonipin. SWIM does not the idea of being on a Benzo for any period of time so he requested to try Lunesta 3mg tabs. It's supposed to knock you the fuck out for 7-8 hours but didn't do shit x-cept put a weird metallic taste in the back of my throat. Not to mention it costs $160 for 30 tabs... WTF??
Anyone got any advice on this BS??

No this drug is not very strong at all. Unlikely to help a severe problem. If the problem cannot be conquered without drugs consider asking the doctor for Seroquel. But the thing is the required dose can vary from like 50 mgs on up into the hundreds. Like 500 plus. But one has to understand that there are downsides to every drug including Seroquel. But not being able to sleep is not good. But if SWIM dose not have insurance Seroquel is expensive too.

[Gappa]

SWIM tried Ambien. Shit isn't worth a fuck either. SWIM took 5 10mg tabs and barely napped. 4 Klonipin and a few Clonidine will put the horse down for about 4 hours. SWIATWA Seroquel is for Bi-polar Disorder not sleep disorder..

[yaba]

Sorry to hear that if zolpidem (amdien) doesn't work, then nitrazepam might be of help.. But its more benzo related...

[PsychoActivist]

Originally Posted by Gappa

SWIM tried Ambien. Shit isn't worth a fuck either. SWIM took 5 10mg tabs and barely napped. 4 Klonipin and a few Clonidine will put the horse down for about 4 hours. SWIATWA Seroquel is for Bi-polar Disorder not sleep disorder..

It is also prescribed off-label as a sleep aid.

[psilocybley]

Originally Posted by Gappa

I have a SEVERE sleep disorder. SWIM's doc had/has him on Klonipin. SWIM does not the idea of being on a Benzo for any period of time so he requested to try Lunesta 3mg tabs.
Anyone got any advice on this BS??

SWIM would recommend your friend continue with the klonopin, just not right before bedtime. It's long half life seems to give it a big benefit over other, more intense benzos.

SWIM did not respond well to Lunesta much either. Ambien and Sonata worked much better for my friend. But what SWIM said works REALLY well is rozerem. Rozerem is a melatonin reuptake inhibitor, and SWIM said after taking it for a few nights in a row he started to feel more drowsy naturally as bedtime approached, plus he began waking up bright and early with remarkable consistency. It's a bit intense at first but it has several advantages over the other sleep aides.

A natural remedy that SWIM HIGHLY recommends is Erythrina mulungu. AFOAF smokes the 90% Alkaloidal extract (which is available from several respectable vendors) after he crawls into bed. After it takes about 10-15 minutes to kick in but he says he gets the nods much like the sedative effects that accompanies smoking opium. While others have described its effects as being comparable to Valium, AFOAF says that valium is not nearly as sedating as Mulungu is. This same friend says Lady's Slipper extract is a good, but unstudied sleep aide.

Hope this was of use.

[ATWA]

Yes Ambien is a waste for severe insomnia. As I stated Seroquel is possibly the best. It is used off label in hospitals throughout the country. But many physicians do not know to use it for sleep. But one can suggest that their doctor read up on it.

[psilocybley]

Trazodone is another off-label drug for insomnia. The grogginess is too much for my lion, but it works. It's an older one so it would probably be more affordable than newer atypical antipsychotics like Seroquel. Risk of Long Term effects is also more advantageous with Trazodone than with SQ.

[Gappa]

SWIM tried Trazodone.. fucking hangovers like a bitch. SWIM has a gift card from Home Depot. I think I will look for the biggest sledgehammer I can find.
SWIM is going to see an actual psychiatrist on Tuesday. Just sick and tired of being tired.lol

[psilocybley]

Everyone seems to report hangover. Based on all that SWIM has read and heard, SWIM would highly recommend asking about Rozerem.

[Gappa]

SWIM's psychiatrist did in fact put him onto Seroquel. So the some of you were quite insightful on this. SWIM didn't even mention it and this is still what he put SWIM on. X-nay the Kloinpin he said, unless it still doesn't work. He put swim on 300mgs starting off at 75mg and working up. Doc says some patients are on as much as 1000mg of it. And damn right about it being expensive! Just as expensive as Oxycontin!!

[Micklemouse]

Please post updates in the original thread.

300mg seems rather a lot to treat sleep disorder. In the UK A Certain Mouse usually sees 50 - 150 mg prescribed as a sleep aid (150 being rare). Anyhoo, more information & discussion on Quetiepine (Seroquel) can be found in the Antipsychotics forum. Any questions on this med should be put there.

[Spinner]

Lunesta does nothing to me, for some reason. SWIM took two last night to see if that would help him sleep. Either it takes them 8 hrs to hit him, or he just finally passed out from exhaustion.

[RX420]

lunesta is crap. It never helped swim get to sleep. hell swim used it during the day time when he would run out of xanax. It just never put him to sleep.

[Jatelka]

Please note that posts about Quetiapine (seroquel) should be posted over in antipsycotics and NOT double posted here as well!