ecstacy. bad. help

[hooch369]

Hi there swim took ecstacy a while back, was absoluty amazing first 4 or 5 times, then one night swim took about 11 in one night, started ok then became very weird like swims body was acting like it was on ecstacy, and swims face was absolutly messed up, not nice, but swims mind was almost normal, but not really, and it was just totaly weird and trippy but in realy bad way, like smoking to much weed sort of, swim couldnt look in a mirror for long, and if swim did it would draw me in, which was a good thing on the first pills ages ago, but it was so weird looking in a mirror on a bad trip, tring to figure out what was happenig was very stange and from that day on all pills swim took would just do the same thing, like swims body is on ecstacy but swims mind is just twisted, it doesnt sound bad in writing but the experince is so strange, and swim cant look at anyone on pills no more cause it just reminds swim of the bad trips i expericed, and swim feels like, they, are on a bad trip even though there not, big pupils realy scare swim now aswell, just makes swim feel that bad trip all over again. Has anyone else felt this, if so try to explain it it may help swim. Thank you.

[Readux]

well from what SWIY has said, he knows what mdma is like, and it sounds like what SWIY took was adulterated, maybe meth, mda, or speed. It's very likely this happened since pills are pretty bad nowadays. Try testing before hand with a kit to prevent this from happening again.

[honourableone]

Originally Posted by Readux

well from what SWIY has said, he knows what mdma is like, and it sounds like what SWIY took was adulterated, maybe meth, mda, or speed. It's very likely this happened since pills are pretty bad nowadays. Try testing before hand with a kit to prevent this from happening again.

Yes that is likely, but you will also notice that he took 11 of them.

That was very irresponsible, but you should know that already. One can never tell the amount of MDMA in a pill (if theres any at all), and taking 11 of something when you don't know what it is is ridiculous.

[RaverHippie]

Please consider the use of responsible amounts of MDMA/Ecstasy pills as to avoid further symptoms of an overdose.

[Readux]

wait, SWIM clearly did not read this well enough, obviously anything past 125mg of mdma is useless, it has been shown that this is the sweet spot, and 11 pills is wayyyy past the recommended dose, SWIY clearly is not responsible and should either read more on the forums before another use of ecstasy or stop all together. Next time try taking no more than one or two quality pills, if you are not rolling, either your pills are bad or you just have a really high tolerance and should lay off for a while

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[honourableone]

Originally Posted by Readux

Next time try taking no more than one or two quality pills, if you are not rolling, either your pills are bad or you just have a really high tolerance and should lay off for a while

Agreed. One of the most important lessons that people need to grasp:
If one or two pills don't do anything, do not take more.

If they aren't working, like readux said, they may bad. This could mean that taking more has no effect because the pills are just chalk or something (an example), or it could mean they have something dangerous/another drug that takes longer to kick in than MDMA.

To be honest, if SWIhooch369 took 11 they are very lucky that they did not come off worse, although they obviously did have a hard time and learnt their lesson.

[hooch369]

The silly rabbit emailed me -

Thank you, i know it was stupid and, i did come off worse, as i suffered from bad deppresion for about 2 years after, but i did more after the 11, but they were when the deppresion started, but has enyone experinced the same bad feelings i had while on them.

[Readux]

Personally SWIM has not, since he usually uses vitamin supplements before and after use, and tries to keep his body healthy. It is known that MDMA does cause severe depression after extended use and sometimes after SWIM uses he does get depressed.

Also SWIM has taken a bad pill before heavily laced with meth and speed, which did cause his heart to race and for a while made him not like e, but that part is just a mental way of protecting oneself from further harming the body, like eating bad chicken would cause the body to reject even healthy chicken. This shows that you went way past the limit and should stop using e till SWIY is healthy again and has regained all his serotonin

[Regretamine]

Swim's had the same sort of thing , infact just reading this sends shivers down swim's spine. I think you're right, once you over do it once you will never be rid of the bad side affects. Swim first felt like this over 3 years ago now, at this time swim used to do stupidly high does regularly, and all swim can say is that the best cure for it is time. Unfortunatly swim's never had the will power to stop for more than about 4 months, but even after 4 months Swim feel's so much better and most of the paranoia/anxiety goes. After a break swim's found it ok doing a couple of pills occasionaly, and swim always drinks alcohol with these too, that helps (I know I shouldn't reccomend that).

So just stop for as long as you can is my advice, your mind will clear eventualy.

[hooch369]

Originally Posted by Regretamine

Swim's had the same sort of thing , infact just reading this sends shivers down swim's spine. I think you're right, once you over do it once you will never be rid of the bad side affects. Swim first felt like this over 3 years ago now, at this time swim used to do stupidly high does regularly, and all swim can say is that the best cure for it is time. Unfortunatly swim's never had the will power to stop for more than about 4 months, but even after 4 months Swim feel's so much better and most of the paranoia/anxiety goes. After a break swim's found it ok doing a couple of pills occasionaly, and swim always drinks alcohol with these too, that helps (I know I shouldn't reccomend that).

So just stop for as long as you can is my advice, your mind will clear eventualy.

Cheers mate all i needed to hear was someonelse that had this, fagile minds are not good on this stuff, but i would try and stop if i was you, but if you feel like you can handle the ones your doing now and you are sensible with them youll be fine. remember sensible why go through it again.

[SmokeRings]

If you can't recognize that taking 11 E pills is an issue, you shouldn't be using at all. I am still sitting here with my jaw agape, what in the world would make you think that 11 E pills was a good idea?
She shakes head and moves along...

[FrogEye]

SWIY has probably caused a case of seratonin syndrome when SWIY did 11 pills at once. This could have caused damage to SWIY's brain as well, especially considering how dirty pills are and how they could contain damaging chemicals. This could have caused the 2 years of depression that followed due to unhealthy seratonin activity and damage to 5-HT receptors. SWIY's brain could have repaired the damage by now considering it was 2 years ago, but i recommend SWIY doesnt take ecstasy again to avoid further damage.

[Regretamine]

It just depends what kind of people you're around I guess. Swim has never done more than 16, but swim knows people have done 30 in a night, 60 in 3 days, and even someone who did 10 in dose. All very bad ideas I can see now, but they seemed to come out of it better than swim. It does depend what kind of person you are as well that courses the depression and shit.

[FrAnCioS-]

Originally Posted by Regretamine

It just depends what kind of people you're around I guess. Swim has never done more than 16, but swim knows people have done 30 in a night, 60 in 3 days, and even someone who did 10 in dose. All very bad ideas I can see now, but they seemed to come out of it better than swim. It does depend what kind of person you are as well that courses the depression and shit.

Swim usualy get tru about 6 a night its all depends realy one weekend he went tru 40 and these where good pills to But now he has learned from his mistakes and does abuse drugs.


-FrAnCioS

[SmokeRings]

SWIM can only hope that those of you who are doing these large quantities are getting ripped off! SWIM couldn't even imagine living through more than 4 or 5 from the one's she's experienced! SWIM doesn't actually hope you are getting fake stuff, that would be sucky, she simply means she can't even fathom how in the hell you guys are still alive after taking that much based on her experiences w/the substance!
SWIM also has a very high tolerance level to pretty much anything, SWIM always ends up smoking, drinking, twice as much if not more than whoever SWIM might be partying with. SWIM hates it, because SWIM has to spend way more money. SWIM is envious of the "lightweight".
Seriously guys, it just seems crazy to SWIM that you would not come out of a 30 pill ordeal (based on stuff she's had) even if it was over 3 days, that's still 10 in a day, without some sort of permanent, noticeable damage. Can you possibly tell SWIM how much of say meth, heroin, alcohol, whatever it takes to get you high? As said, SWIMs tolerance is higher than most, so she is just curious to know if maybe that's the case here. Even still, just can't imagine that, or even wanting to take that many, unless she was actually trying to kill herself. Seriously!

[FrogEye]

Originally Posted by SmokeRings

SWIM can only hope that those of you who are doing these large quantities are getting ripped off! SWIM couldn't even imagine living through more than 4 or 5 from the one's she's experienced! SWIM doesn't actually hope you are getting fake stuff, that would be sucky, she simply means she can't even fathom how in the hell you guys are still alive after taking that much based on her experiences w/the substance!
SWIM also has a very high tolerance level to pretty much anything, SWIM always ends up smoking, drinking, twice as much if not more than whoever SWIM might be partying with. SWIM hates it, because SWIM has to spend way more money. SWIM is envious of the "lightweight".
Seriously guys, it just seems crazy to SWIM that you would not come out of a 30 pill ordeal (based on stuff she's had) even if it was over 3 days, that's still 10 in a day, without some sort of permanent, noticeable damage. Can you possibly tell SWIM how much of say meth, heroin, alcohol, whatever it takes to get you high? As said, SWIMs tolerance is higher than most, so she is just curious to know if maybe that's the case here. Even still, just can't imagine that, or even wanting to take that many, unless she was actually trying to kill herself. Seriously!

yeah agreed. Some people are just dare devils lol

[Regretamine]

Definatly not getting ripped off... I mean maybe pills are stronger in the US (I'm from UK) but swim has done alot of different types, and if swim did 5 or 6 now, I reckon he'd be completely off his face. I think because swim was only 16 when he used to do so many, he had nothing to worry about, no real commitments or resonsibilities which made it easier to get into such a state. And swim was doing them often so he built up a pretty high tolerance. But there's no doubt it did some considerable and noticable damage. Mostly swim just seems to be alot slower, and the paranoia I mentioned. But it's all good, nothing reeally serious. Although the guy swim knows who did a 10 drop now has schizophrenia... Whether it's related to drug abuse who knows.

And swim's never taken meth or heroin, he usualy drinks between 10 and 20 pints of beer in a night though. But again I drink often, it's all about tolerence really.

[Readux]

never any circumstance should someone take excess of 5 a night, this creates such a high chance of overdose, not necessarily of MDMA but of numerous adulterates such as meth or even PMA. If SWIYs tolerance is too high that 5 does not work, s/he should definitely take a break. SWIM waits at least 1 month between rolling and a single pill always works for him.

[st sam]

If SWIY takes it regularly then the experience gets worth at time. SWIM likes to have md as a treat, maybe once a month and every experience is amazing. its been a month now for SWIM, they are happy.

[Synesthesiac]

Shulgin has said that looking at yourself in the mirror on large dosages of phenethylamines is a bad idea. I know the feeling, its wierd looking at yourself and seeing something you dont entirely recognise becuase of MDMA's slightly psychedelic effect. The huge pupils dont help either.

And to the OP, Full Stops aren't that scary, honest. Thats one hell-of-a sentence!

Sorry, grammar nazi nag over.

[funkateer]

One more reason to only use molly. Please next time be more respectful of your body. You could have wound up the next martyr for the establishment. Overdose is a serious thing pushing your body that hard and for with something you literally know nothing of what it contains is a bad idea.