Oral use - Oral vs Nasal (little different then other threads)

[decay66]

OK guys, this is my last activity on this site for the day. I just joined last night, and swim kept me up all night while he binged on methylphenidate SR, so I have been all over this forum while keeping him company. hope I haven't done anything that would be considered abuse or spam.

My final question is, Swim was scripted 20 mg of Methylin ER a month ago. Swim quickly got into chopping them up and snorting them, because he loves snorting powdery things. These pills had all the little balls mixed in with the powder after crushing them. He smashed the little balls up with a ratchet handle and a cereal bowl and snorted. Good times and long nights was the result.

He ran out of those a couple of weeks ago, and yesterday got a refill from his doctor. He went to a different pharmacy this time though, and got a bottle of 20mg Methylphenidate SR. He has been up since, removing the little outer papery layer every hour or so, (resulting in an amber colored pill) and crushing these up and snorting.
He is off to work now, and is dredding the day to come. While reviewing this forum all night, I am wondering what I should suggest he do for the day to come, and future days like this. and also if he should drop the snorting habit all together, and go 100% parachuting, for now on. He says he doesn't think parachuting really works when he is looking for a fun, speedy high.
He loves snorting, but as some know, the time spent high from snorting these gets shorter and shorter as the night goes by, like many other powders. At this point he wont make it through the day, unless he runs to the bathroom while at work every hour to get back up.
I read alot about parachuting, and most people say its a better application, a good high, and for this purpose specifically, longer lasting. Swim said he tried that once with the Methylin ER last month, and he didn't get anything from it. I think he had been snorting all night prior to this though, so maybe he was just, all in all, maxed out

to end a short story made long, is there a reason why when he snorts these pills, he's all over the place and feels great all night long, but when he crushes them up and parachutes (small paper tissue used), nothing really happens, like others on this forum have described? He said he feels like it helps him stay up after a long night. But it deffinitely does not get him high in any way. Right now he could snort yet another line, he would get high, maybe not for long, but high. But if he parachutes right now, he says he knows he won't feel anything different, except he may not be as tired today as he would be if he stopped all together.

He wonders why the majority of the people on here have friends that highly recommend parachuting, for recreational use, over snorting, if this is the case for him.

We are off to work. help me wish him luck on the long day to come.

[fnord]

Snorting generally results in a shorter but more intense high with most drugs,parachuting is a longer high but slightly less intense. i believe that ingesting a base before swallowing amphetamines potentates them similarly to how it works with opiates.

[doggy_hat]

When SWIY takes the drug orally, it takes time for the drug to be digested and proccessed into SWIY's system. Snorting is a more direct and quicker way of administration.

Parachuting will get SWIY high for longer, because the drug is slowly absorbed. So 20mg of MPH up the nose will get SWIM higher but shorter. 20mg in the stomach won't get SWIM as high but last much longer.

So if SWIM takes higher oral doses, he can get high, and he'll have to redose much less often than when snorting.

[decay66]

I think he would be better off getting accustom to parachuting, rather than just going for his typical rock star approach of getting high and blowing a bottle in 3 days.
He has been up for almost 2 days now, I think he has snorted a total of 240mg to do this though. Which sucks, because he only gets 30 pills per month, and at this rate, he is going to dry up very soon. Resulting in 3 or 4 week waiting period. He is deffinitely going to make up a different plan next month, because he feels kind of wasteful by doing this binge the day he gets the script.

He seems to just really like the high he gets from snorting though. He doesnt have a desire to stay up so long, its just a result of the desired high. He would probably be interested in knowing how many MG's he would have to parachute to reach the same peak level as snorting 20mg. I'm sure he realizes the peak level would be reached at different times. Is it possible to parachute a certain amount and get the same feeling as snorting 20mg? Or are they simply just 2 totally different experiences?

[doggy_hat]

SWIM actually prefered the high of oral use over nasal. He finds that the high is much more "smoother". With snorting it's like riding a roller coaster, constantly going up and down, and the effects are much more hard hitting. With oral, euphoria is better, he doesn't feel so strung out, reduced paranoia, ect. He has no idea why effects are different though. But it's still essentially the same type of high.

For dose, just experiment. Maybe try 40mg parachuted, wait for the effects to kick in, then redose if necessary.