Snorting - a way of super snorting

[chukbzle]

Swim was wondering if there was a way to better snorting oxy . like fake example would be <(mix the powder with epsom salt to aid absorbtion)> like is there something like that or something thatll make sure it all absorbs quicker and or more thorough ,maybe something u can take idk swim was just wonderin what ur creative minds can find

[fnord]

Sometimes grandma and friends will blow drugs up each others noses using a tube. Dont know about any chemicals that would aid in absorption. An alternative is doing a simple extract on the pill using something its soluble in,this cuts down on the amount of binders/junk/fillersETC allowing you to use a much smaller amount.a large amount of pills can be cleaned this way then dissolved into water and uysed in a nasel inalor for an effective administratoin method.

[chukbzle]

thanx swim has seen the tube thing with tribes just never thought to try it , and breakin it down would be good . you can lose a lot cleaning but i bet if someone cleaned their pills they could just eat the leftovers(fillers,binders, and lil bits of active substance) so no loss in the end that way minus maybe the filter but if u clean good should only be like a mg. idk but everyone keep ur ideas comin. "Knowledge is power and im only slightly strong" lol

[samuraigecko]

"hot railing"

Warm water extraction and railing the liquid.

Peace

[MEKONE]

Originally Posted by samuraigecko

"hot railing"

Warm water extraction and railing the liquid.

Peace

Good answer!!SWIM always finds themselves snorting a bit of water after the substance to insure good absorbtion and avoid "caking up".

[fnord]

Originally Posted by MEKONE

Good answer!!SWIM always finds themselves snorting a bit of water after the substance to insure good absorbtion and avoid "caking up".

I dont think thats what he meant,Hot railing is generally used for snorting meth,a glass tube is heated on one end and used for snorting,when the powder hits the red hot glass it vaporises. When he mentoiend warm water extract he was refering to useing warm water to clean binder/juk out of pills.

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by fnord

I dont think thats what he meant,Hot railing is generally used for snorting meth,a glass tube is heated on one end and used for snorting,when the powder hits the red hot glass it vaporises. When he mentoiend warm water extract he was refering to useing warm water to clean binder/juk out of pills.

Unfortunately not. SWIM'S pet iguana has a different version of hot railing but it going to call it liquid railing now so as not to be confused.

Extract with warm water, rail the liquid. When converted to a liquid, Oxycodone is able to pass the mucous membrane quicker than it would if in powder form.

Peace

[fnord]

Thanks gecko! never knew that!

Hot railing:http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=hot%20rail

[MEKONE]

Originally Posted by samuraigecko

Extract with warm water, rail the liquid. When converted to a liquid, Oxycodone is able to pass the mucous membrane quicker than it would if in powder form.
Peace

This is exactly what SWIM ment,this method will avoid "cake up".SWIM plans on using a nasal spray bottle in the near future with just a bit of O2 to disolve the pill.SWIM has heard good things about this method as well because the pills are IR insted of ER so no need to break any matrix.SWIM will report back as to how well the method worked for them.

[psilocybley]

Would some kind of vasodilator improve drug absorption?

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by fnord

Thanks gecko! never knew that!

Hot railing:http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=hot%20rail

Yea, SWIM is from a diff country and didnt realize that it meant something totally different already . . lolz.

SWIM will refer to it as "liquid railing" from now on.

Originally Posted by psilocybley

Would some kind of vasodilator improve drug absorption?

Unsure of any difficulties which may arise from the combination so SWIM is not sure. In theory it should work but SWIM cannot say for sure.

Just extracting using warm/hot water from the crushed pill, pill filtered like one would do if injecting (to filter any APAP or binders . . IR contains binders too remember) and then railing the resulting warm liquid. Using injection water would be ideal if possible because SWIM says that sometimes railing normal water can give you a cold or flu.

Peace

[fnord]

Would some kind of vasodilator improve drug absorption?

This is an interesting idea,i dont know enough about the human body to know if it would work,but it seems like a good idea! Maybe start a new thread on it?

[W!SE]

Originally Posted by samuraigecko

Extract with warm water, rail the liquid. When converted to a liquid, Oxycodone is able to pass the mucous membrane quicker than it would if in powder form.

Peace

correct swim if he's mistaken but what that basically means is it will go down easier..the drip will be instant.. however one does need to leave substance in nasal area to be picked up into blood stream AND THEN once drip comes the remaining 'drips' down to stomach and produces oral effect...

wouldn't bypassing as swiy says just be a shot down the throat, therefore oral ingestion ?

please clarify

(ps swim has heard the method, never tried)

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by W!SE

correct swim if he's mistaken but what that basically means is it will go down easier..the drip will be instant.. however one does need to leave substance in nasal area to be picked up into blood stream AND THEN once drip comes the remaining 'drips' down to stomach and produces oral effect...

wouldn't bypassing as swiy says just be a shot down the throat, therefore oral ingestion ?

please clarify

(ps swim has heard the method, never tried)

Not talking about drip. A liquid will be absorbed by the mucous membrane easier than a solid. The advantage of a solid is that it wont drip and will stay in one place to dissolve, however the disadvantage is that one has to wait for it to dissolve.

If already in a liquid form, even better if in a concentrated liquid form, it will pass the membrane faster.

Peace

[Sniffin Sunshine]

Swim was wondering if there was any other liquid that would be more effective in dissolving oxycodone, but that is also safe to snort/inject, because she knows oxycodone is only partially soluable in water, because she has dissolved it many times and there is always a lot of powder remaining floating in the water. there is no way all of it could be binders, i mean its like amost all of it is still powdered. Maybe swim should just wait longer? she usually waits around 15 minutes.

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by Sniffin Sunshine

Swim was wondering if there was any other liquid that would be more effective in dissolving oxycodone, but that is also safe to snort/inject, because she knows oxycodone is only partially soluable in water, because she has dissolved it many times and there is always a lot of powder remaining floating in the water. there is no way all of it could be binders, i mean its like amost all of it is still powdered. Maybe swim should just wait longer? she usually waits around 15 minutes.

Oxycodone is fully water soluble. The powder IS in fact the binders.
An example would be:

80mg tablet.
Lets say that said tablet weighs 1/2 a gram.
1/2 a gram is 500mg.
This means that 420mg of that tablet is binders.
Thats a hell of a lot of powder.

Peace

[deviant_one]

Hey guys! Long time since I've been around - nasty car accident on Halloween, OH SO SLOW recovery process, etc.
Any-who, hope this is an appropriate tangent to the current thread/discussion:
Edith brought home a bottle of 5mg/5ml Oxycodone the other day. She was curious if any of the folks here knew of a way to decrease the amount of inert liquid thus concentrating the Good Stuff.
Any clues as to what exactly that sort of cough syrup tasting red liquid that the Good Stuff resides in consists of and is it conducive to liquid railing? (Lovely sentence structure, eh?)
"What to do, what to do, what to do with my bottle of Oxycodone???" she thought to her Dingbat self aloud.
Also, she happened upon a few 10mg Oxycontin CR tablets. Again, she ponders aloud in her whiny annoying voice, "What to do, what to do, what to do for fun with these slow release tabs?"
Thanks in advance!

d_one

[W!SE]

oxycodone syrup? swiyOU sure it's not hydro?

[deviant_one]

Positive!
Edith's 'scrip was for 90 5mg tablets and no RX in town had anything except the 5mg Oxy / 5ml (total 450 ml) syrup as a substitute.
It is DEFINITELY Oxycodone syrup.
Didn't realize it was abnormal - had it a few times when my jaw was wired shut in November and December.
According to all local pharmacies, since the end of 2008 one of two of the manufacturers of Oxycodone has STOPPED making it. Apparently now there is a nation wide shortage.

d_one

[samuraigecko]

If it is in a syrup then it should be fine as is to consume orally. Oxycodone has an extremely high oral bioAv, Reducing the liquid and railing it may not be an option depending on what they used to make said syrup. 5mg/5ml is all good and in a liquid form it would be absorbed by the body quicker than even IR pills.

BTW the only syrup SWIM could seem to find was a cough syrup containing Oxycodone (1mg/10ml) and a cardiac analgesia syrup (5mg/1ml)

strange

Peace

[deviant_one]

Thanks SG - helpful as always!
Will do a little more research to try to find what exactly the Oxycodone is suspended in.
Orally, compared to 5 mg tablets, the liquid DEFINITELY has a MUCH quicker and more intense onset, but does seems to have less "hang time".
According to the DingBat, of course...
Again she wonders whether the 10mg Oxycontin Controlled Release are worth trying to dry or liquid rail?
Thanks in advance.

d_one

[cra$h]

if the release is broken, yea, but if not, just a little bit less yes

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by deviant_one

Thanks SG - helpful as always!
Will do a little more research to try to find what exactly the Oxycodone is suspended in.
Orally, compared to 5 mg tablets, the liquid DEFINITELY has a MUCH quicker and more intense onset, but does seems to have less "hang time".
According to the DingBat, of course...
Again she wonders whether the 10mg Oxycontin Controlled Release are worth trying to dry or liquid rail?
Thanks in advance.

d_one

Liquid yes, dry yes (if the dingbat can handle that much powder). . . .

[deviant_one]

Thanks SG.
With all Ediths recent surgeries and a few months of prescribed daily use of the Oxy's (20-30mg -contin and 30-45mg -codone per 24 hour period), she might have to find a way to reduce the amount of inert ingredients in the powders. She's developed a bit of a tolerance for 10mg of -contin to do much for her. It currently takes her approximately 50-60 mg of the liquid -codone for a baseline buzz and 20mg more for a good one.
She'll work on her UTFSE skills to see what info she can find on reduciing the amount of powder before she tries snorting.
Thainks again for all your help!

d_one