Experiences - Took a Purple Transformer as his first E pill.

[Revolver123]

Swim took a purple transformer as his first E pill. You can search it on xxxx xxxxxxx. Apparently it containes piperzines and what not but does not contain pure MDMA. Swim felt as though he was going to die on this pill though Swim felt periods of euphoria.

Swim is wondering his this experience should prevent him from trying real MDMA. Swim is also wondering if its good to smoke cannabis while on a pill.

[Micklemouse]

I repeat, it was not an E, it was a pill. Your original thread about this has been moved & retitled as it does not refer to Ecstasy, but to a pill. Please follow the redirect (Experiences - Bad experience first time on BZP & Amfetamine), & do not link or otherwise refer to active drug-related forums or offshoots.

It would be a shame if this experience put him off, as the combination taken bears no real resemblance to a true MDMA experience, other than both can give rushes, & are stimulants. It is worth comparing your subjects experiences with this pill to experiences posted in the various forums relating to te ingredients, as well as the Experiences thread in this particular subforum.

[phatassone]

indeed the transformzers are largely not MDMA, as for smoking weed on pills it can be very fun, it makes the MDMA experience more psychadelic....

[The Man With A Plan]

piperazines feel absolutely terrible. MDMA will rock swiy socks off. do not be discouraged. just make sure swiy looks up/tests his pills from now on.

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by phatassone

indeed the transformzers are largely not MDMA, as for smoking weed on pills it can be very fun, it makes the MDMA experience more psychadelic....

i am shocked by the absoluteness in your resolve surrounding the contents of this given stamp. my raver friend recently rolled using just one 'purple transformer' and had a fine time indeed. when giving advice it's good to not let subjective hearsay information cloud your judgment. one must always realize and espouse the tried and true line of every pill can contain different things even if they're the same stamp from the same batch in the same area etc.

as for the op the question of finding powdered mdma can be a legitimate one to ask. in many places in the usa, it is much easier to find quality pills than it is to find quality mdma.

[Cryptic Concoction]

Originally Posted by phatassone

indeed the transformzers are largely not MDMA, as for smoking weed on pills it can be very fun, it makes the MDMA experience more psychadelic....

"Transformer" is an entirely arbitrary stamp and "name" that in no way corresponds to the composition of the pill. Color and stamp of pills purported to be "ecstasy" are simply not indicative of pill constitution.

Any given person with access to MDMA (or other materials that may be distributed as "ecstasy") and the means to press pills can construct "purple transformers." From this fact alone it can be logically concluded that there is no way to accurately assess the contents of a pill simply based on the arbitrary "name" assigned to it.

It is dangerous to disseminate the false assertion that anything regarding pill composition can be determined from the professed "name" of the pill.

[FrogEye]

Never take adultered pills, especially those which are known to have PMA or similar drugs in them. PMA, for instance, is highly toxic and is also known as dr.death. It's dose to toxicity curve is extremely steep and different for each person, meaning that what might be a nice dose for one person could be fatal to another. SWIM recommends asking what pills the dealer has and then searching them or ask friends about them to find out if they are known to be adultered (however even this is unreliable as the above poster says, but its better than nothing). SWIM has avoided being sold deadly pills a couple of times, much to the dismay of the dealer who wants to make his sale. Also be careful and watch your temper if you do have to turn down a sale due to the dealer trying to sell you dangerous pills.

[rih902]

Originally Posted by Cryptic Concoction

"Transformer" is an entirely arbitrary stamp and "name" that in no way corresponds to the composition of the pill. Color and stamp of pills purported to be "ecstasy" are simply not indicative of pill constitution.

Any given person with access to MDMA (or other materials that may be distributed as "ecstasy") and the means to press pills can construct "purple transformers." From this fact alone it can be logically concluded that there is no way to accurately assess the contents of a pill simply based on the arbitrary "name" assigned to it.

It is dangerous to disseminate the false assertion that anything regarding pill composition can be determined from the professed "name" of the pill.

these transformers are very different from other pills, both in shape and color. swim finds that no two pills look exactly the same, and if a picture is attached someone can say without hesitation "yes. i took the same pill as that one" the transformers have been tested by ecstacydata recently and have no mdma. i assume this is the same pill.

[FrogEye]

Originally Posted by rih902

these transformers are very different from other pills, both in shape and color. swim finds that no two pills look exactly the same, and if a picture is attached someone can say without hesitation "yes. i took the same pill as that one" the transformers have been tested by ecstacydata recently and have no mdma. i assume this is the same pill.

Completely not true, the whole basis of bunk pills is that they are perfect copies of other pills that sell successfully, except for their contents, which contain all sorts of crap.

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by rih902

these transformers are very different from other pills, both in shape and color. swim finds that no two pills look exactly the same, and if a picture is attached someone can say without hesitation "yes. i took the same pill as that one" the transformers have been tested by ecstacydata recently and have no mdma. i assume this is the same pill.

I'm sorry for the folks at ecstasydata but their work gets turned obsolete almost immediately due to people copycatting designs. MY raver friend had some purple transformers that match the ones on ecstasy data org exactly but his purple transformers are good, strong mdma containing pills. This just proves that no matter what is published on the internet, real life can prove it false immediately and it's dangerous to assume that the pills in real-life match the ones on ecstasy data.