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Obama and Mexico's president to talk drug war

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Obama and Mexico's Calderon to talk drug war, trade
05:45 PM EST

By Catherine Bremer

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Battling with spiraling drug murders and an economic crisis, Mexico's Felipe Calderon will urge U.S. President-elect Barack Obama on Monday to support his drug war and stick to the NAFTA trade deal.

Their meeting in Washington, days before Obama takes office, comes after years of complaints of neglect from Mexico and much of Latin America as President George W. Bush's foreign policy focused on the Middle East and the war on terror.

With Mexico's drug violence exploding and fears that Obama could tamper with the North American Free Trade Agreement to protect U.S. workers, Calderon will try to persuade the Democrat to give Mexico some attention.

Following a tradition that new U.S. presidents meet their Mexican counterparts, Calderon will be the first foreign leader that Obama sits down with since he was elected in November.

Calderon, a dour and strong-willed conservative, is expected to ask Obama for more help fighting the drug cartels who worry foreign investors and are destabilizing Mexico, especially along the U.S. border.

Mexico wants Washington to do more to curb drug-taking in the United States and gun smuggling from north of the border because drug hitmen buy automatic weapons and other guns legally in the United States and bring them back to Mexico to use in the turf battles that killed 5,700 people last year.

"Drug trafficking is not a Mexican problem. It is impacting both societies and the criminals are operating in U.S. territory," said Armand Peschard-Sverdrup at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

"There is an opportunity for the Obama administration to address the issue from a public health standpoint... We can put people in jail but we are not addressing the root causes of the problem," said Peschard-Sverdrup, who was to dine with Calderon on Sunday evening before he meets Obama.

Calderon has sent the army against drug gangs but last year was the most violent yet as two main groups, the Gulf cartel and Sinaloa alliance, fight for control of smuggling routes to the United States and other smaller gangs face off.

RECESSION AND NAFTA

As economic woes bite in both countries, Calderon is also anxious about Obama's suggestion during the election campaign that he might seek to renegotiate NAFTA, which U.S. unions see as a cause of job losses in big industrial states like Ohio.

Calderon told international business leaders at a summit meeting in November that restricting trade would only drive more Mexicans to emigrate illegally to the United States.

Mexico's economy is expected to shrink this year as U.S. consumers buy fewer Mexican-made goods like cars and televisions.

Finance Minister Agustin Carstens said on Friday that Mexico will languish in recession in the first half of 2009. He said exports and remittances will drop and that the timing of an upturn will depend on Obama's economic program.

"We'll start growing again once the situation abroad normalizes," Carstens said.

Mexican factories exporting to the United States boomed as trade between the two nations has quadrupled to around $350 billion a year since NAFTA came into effect in 1994.

But now there are layoffs in Mexico and many families that rely on money sent to them from relatives in the United States have also been hard hit.

Some 10 million Mexicans live and work in the United States, many of them illegally, and the money they wire home is one of Mexico's biggest sources of foreign currency.

Foreign Minister Patricia Espinosa said this week that Mexico is still seeking reforms promised by Bush to give immigrant workers in the United States legal status. Bush tried to push through modest reforms but they were blocked by Republicans in the U.S. Congress.

During a 2007 visit, Bush also pledged a $1.4 billion drug aid package for Mexico and Central America, but only $300 million has been freed up and equipment may not arrive for months.

"A strengthening of the initiative will be necessary, greater resources," said Enrique Cardenas, head of the Estudios Espinosa Iglesias think tank in Mexico City.

Few expect Mexico to be among Obama's top priorities given the ongoing crisis in the Middle East and a slumping economy.

But as Mexico, which opposed the U.S.-led war in Iraq, takes up a rotating seat on the U.N. Security Council, Obama could seize the chance to mend frayed relations.

"Canada and Mexico are not relationships that can be put aside," said Peschard-Sverdrup. "The countries are joined at the hips."

(Additional reporting by Robin Emmott in Monterrey; Editing by Kieran Murray)

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Wow, I thought I read not too long ago that they were considering decriminalizing to reduce the negative impacts of prohibtion, but now they want more funding for prohibition? The only thing violence will bring is more violence.
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Wow, I thought I read not too long ago that they were considering decriminalizing to reduce the negative impacts of prohibtion, but now they want more funding for prohibition? The only thing violence will bring is more violence.
the former president of Mexico, vicente fox was going to de-criminalize drugs for personal use, but the bush administration put the squeeze on mexico to change their mind.
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Re: Obama and Mexico's president to talk drug war

Bush - still managing to fuck the world up!

What a guy.
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Re: Obama and Mexico's president to talk drug war

Viva Mexico! Hope they're lucky enough to get attention from this president now! Last president's motto was "I'm busy with Irak, come back later.." But Obama could say "I'm busy recovering our economy, come back later.." and so on.
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it seems to me the very best "help fighting the drug cartels" calderon could hope for is a) Obama sticking to his campaign promise and decriminilizing small amounts of all drugs and treating it as a public health problem. and b) ending the prohibition on marijuana and perhaps a few other low threat substances, allowing american corperations and the free market to push these cartels out of the picture. conservatives should be very anti drug war, as the only viable answer to its wasteful nature is the free market from which it has been leeching.

update, I want no far right feedback so Ill offer this up to you: even decriminilazation and consequential drug treatment is nearly 14 times as effective as "dry course" withdrawls in jail treatment of drug problems. some drugs are a social detriment. Ive no arguement. but alternatives to these are sold legally by pharmecuetical comanies, both within and without the boundaries of the law. it simply makes more sense to open the alternatives, which in many cases are much safer, and are made by private corperations, should be legalized, monitored, and most importantaly taxed. with our system in this rapid decline relative to past historical depressions.....its time to think outside the box.....outside the cigarette box, outside the cold medicine box, and more importantly outside our own self imposed social box.

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