Oral use - Kratom tea: drink it hot?

[Panacee]

I can't find back the thread, but there was a topic in which was stated that the alkaloids in kratom will dissolve in hot water, not it cold water. Swim is wondering, when kratom tea cools too much, might the alkaloids precipitate out of solution and end up against the sides of the container?
So is it maybe better to drink the tea as hot as possible?

[BigB-Baby]

Yes drink it warm, some sites will say that this is because it prepares people's bodies for the feeling of kratom (warm beverages warm their insides). SWIM has not seen any precipitates form from cooling the tea, so he doubts this would be a useful extraction method (not mentioned, but came to mind), but SWIM has had great results from kratom using the tea method, with kratom that had little results taken simply orally, most recipes will say to make a pot of tea, however SWIM has found that emptying a tea bag and placing kratom in it, about the same volume as what was in the bag already, and letting that steep in hot water for about fifteen minutes, or until you cannot see the bottom of about a cup of tea.

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[DXMBunny]

that doesnt seem like nearly enough kratom to swim... there is only like 1g in a teabag... swim usually needs 10g of kratom for good effects... swim sticks about 14g in a coffee filter in about a a big mug full of water amount in a pan... and ties the filter with a hair band like girls use... and just sticks it in the water and boils it.. lets it sit at a boil for a couple of minutes... then lets it cool a bit... and squeezes the bag of leaves in the cup he will use... then dumps the water in the pan in the mug... its usually as brown as tea not quite as brown as coffee.... then once its cooled to the warmest he can swallow he drinks it down... 1-2 hours later nice warm effects

only 1g would be like nothing to swim... and he is new to kratom...

maybe im missing what you mean.. or does swiy use extract?

[BigB-Baby]

SWIM knows that this does not make sense, and SWIM usually just puts 15g of kratom into the water of tea kettle and lets boil for 15 minutes, and then filters when pours. SWIM does not understand it, but he felt the most effects from when he let the tea bag steep for fifteen minutes, stirring occasionally, until he could no longer see the bottom of the cup, or the tea bag when he pushed it to the bottom. (BTW it wasn't boiling, it was hot water from one of those hot water dispensers some people have as an extra faucet on their sink.) Of course it was no longer hot and only warm, so he added a couple spoons of sugar and chugged about 1cup of tea. The effects were instantly stoned, SWIM has only ever tried cannabis before, his eyes were drooped to the point of not being able to open them, and felt.....well felt how kratom in high doses is supposed to feel. The strong effects lasted about 20-30 minutes and the after 'warm' effects lasted about an hour. This was regular 'red veined' (really the potency all depends on where it's grown) kratom, powdered, well more like finely grounded. It could have been the sugar (SWIM finds sugar taken with anything orally seems to increase absorption, but could be psychosomatic), could have been chugging it, but it was the strongest effects SWIM has ever felt. SWIM thinks it's worth a try since, like you said, it's only about a gram, so it's not that much of a waste if it doesn't work. Try it and let SWIM know how it works. (Or it could have been the frequent stirring....)

[Panacee]

Why don't SWIY use a french press (coffee plunger) to strain the leaves after extraction? This would make SWIY's lives so much easier.

SWIM found 20-25g to give the best effects. SWIM thinks 1g is noticeable, although it does not give the kratom experience.

On topic: SWIM came upon this idea because few weeks ago it was very cold where he lives, and during SWIM's second extraction of the leaves, the first extraction cooled of a lot (this was already in the mug waiting for the second extraction). After drinking, SWIM noticed a brownisch goo on the walls of the mug. Since in one dose there might only be af few tens of milligrams of alkaloids, this goo could theoretically contain a high percentage of them.

[BigB-Baby]

SWIM is mostly curious as to see if others can duplicate the effects he experienced, because he experienced a very strong opiate feeling from only a tea bag, and SWIY would only be losing a gram. Do it in the name of...."Drug Experimentation".

[Panacee]

SWIM tried 1g. It is a good effect for sure, but not a 'strong opiate' effect SWIY talks about, at least not for SWIM. SWIM misses the sleep-inducing, strange-dream-inducing state that comes with 20g.
But maybe SWIY is more sensitive, and also more lucky. SWIM would like to spend 20X less money on kratom.
Must add that SWIM has a huge tolerance. In the beginning he took 5-10g. And the effect was stronger then 20g nowadays.

[BigB-Baby]

Maybe SWIY is right, but SWIM will have a tolerance soon enough though