Drug info - Different Intervals Between MDMA and Ecstasy

[sushidoc]

Heya guys,
SWIM was reading up on MDMA/Ecstasy recently, and was wondering why many people were writing that one shouldn't do MDMA too often, as it may 'lose it's magic', yet people were writing about taking Ecstasy tablets every week and sometimes two or three times per week. SWIM believes that MDMA is the part of Ecstasy tablets that provides the main effect one is after. Is SWIM completely misinformed, or misunderstanding something?

Should SWIM bomb pure MDMA a lot less often than SWIM would take Ecstasy tablets? And on the subject, Is bombing pure MDMA every three weeks long enough to wait between rolls?

Thanks

[scored]

swim used to do a lot of xtc a few years ago, over a 18 month year period popping good pills at least 4 nights a week, sure there where comedowns and a got a tad psychotic. Comparing it to the mdma swim does now he is finding there is now way he could hammer the mdma powder/crystals like how he used to, yet in terms of actual experience the mdma does not seem to anywhere as intense as the pills around circa 90's.
Swim is, after the recent festivities/indulgances pacing himself with the mdma at most it is going to be once a month or maybe every 2 month.

[yaba]

XTC and MDMA is the same thing.. If swiy gets it right !

MDMA a binder (the one used in cauliflower sauce, at least in swims time) and if you want to give the pill a color, then a food coloring will do.

Oh and a pill making machine and you got XTC !

[FrogEye]

Usually ecstasy pills contains other drugs that are cheaper for the manufacturer to make, such as speed etc. These drugs enhance the MDMA that they made for the pills, which is the main ingredient that you are looking for. It is possible to get pure crystals of MDMA, however SWIM has never seen these in his area, but he has known of people getting capsules containing pure crystals. Taking MDMA or pills once a week is known to lead to loss of magic and tolerance problems. For best benefit SWIY should take it once a month, however after a year or two you will find yourself requiring more pills/powder to get the high you got the first time. Doing pure MDMA and pills is exactly the same, provided they both contain the same dose of MDMA. People say they are more certain about the dose with pure MDMA than with pills, which is generally true but even pure mdma can get adultererd. With pills there is definatley a real chance of them being adultered, leading to addiction to the other things in the pill such as speed, but this addiction is never overwhelming for most swimmers. Ecstasy pills are renowned among the drug community as being the most cocktailed substance you can buy, unfortunately. However, if you know a good brand and you know a good dealer usually you will end up with a fairly good pill, but imitations are well known among the market. Some people prefer pills because they contain speed with the MDMA. SWIM once tried speed and hated it, but he finds that speed with MDMA is better than what he has heard about pure MDMA as it makes you more energetic and you feel like you want to dance more.

[podge]

Firstly ecstacy is a slang term for MDMA. Many pills sold as ecstacy only contain small amounts of MDMA and many do not contain any MDMA. Random cocktails of different drugs are very commonly sold as ecstacy. So moral of the story.... unless a swimmer tests his product .... he could be taking anything at all.

Secondly ... the loss of magic in swims experience happens to virtually everyone who over does MDMA, and swim isnt even talking about dosing multiple times per week, swim is talking about using once every week or two for a few months is enough to make the experience predictable and dull in comparison to what their previous experiences were like.

And in swims experience people who dose on an even more consistent basis tend to just accept the inferior experience and seem to forget what MDMA is really all about, and another trend swim has noticed....people who dose a lot tend to care far less about the quality or contents of a pill/powder, swim guesses this is because any unknown chemical will alter the experience enough to make it less predictable and boring so keeps them relatively happy.

So occasional usage of MDMA ....the less often the better, swim thinks once or twice a year is a safe enough gap to ensure it retains the "magic". Regular use can turn a great and useful drug into a boring habit just to provide an extra kick on a night out. Doesnt seem like a good trade in swims opinion. Swim hasnt dropped in up to a year maybe, and has no serious desire to do so either, had he not spoilt it for himself when he was younger maybe things would be different.

[thealmassi1]

SWIM has found that ecstasy tends to be mostly comprised of meth (among other inactive ingredients) and it never loses its "magic," SWIY just has to use more to reach the desired effect. On the other hand, MDMA (in SWIM's area) in powder or pill form tends to be pure, but people always eventually lose the magic.

If SWIY ingests a pill containing meth, s/he will be up for at least 2 days in the experiences of SWIM's friends. MDMA always allows SWIM to sleep the same night that he consumes the MDMA powder/pill making it rather simple to determine whether the unknown pill is fake or not.

Taking any hard drug every weekend is not a good idea in my opinion. I can only see it leading to depression since these are drugs that seriously deplete the serotonin/dopamine in the brain. These are meant to be taken occassionally, such as once a month or less.

[phatassone]

SWIM tries to keep a once a month maximum rule... stay on the safe side, SWIM abused XTC for 2 years 3 or 4 times a week 5 to 10 pills each time and ended up terribly depressed, after 2 years of therapy SWIM is starting to get better, XTC is not to be taken lightly...