Combinations - Adderall and Redline Energy Drink

[izzybella]

what do you think about swim taking energy drinks - something like redline - with adderall? any experiences?

[TestPattern]

In SWIM's experience, caffeine and acidic sodas like Redline tend to increase the intensity of an adderall 'trip' but shorten their duration, and give more of a pronounced crash at the end of it all. SWIM would advise anyone looking to try this combination to make sure swiy's cardiovascular system is healthy and no other conditions exist that might be exasperated by stimulant use, such as hypertension. SWIM gets lightheaded more often when he mixes caffeine with amphetamine, so he'd reccommend eating regularly and staying hydrated, even if SWIY doesn't feel like he really needs it.

[Coconut]

Caffeine will potentiate the effect of amphetamine, so if one has a heart condition or hypertension they could be putting their life at serious risk.

However, acidic conditions will decrease the bioavailability of amphetamine, so if someone really wants to mix the two drugs, taking a caffeine pill seems as though it would be more likely to work.

I think this is a dangerous idea which nobody should try.

[ghost94]

I take 20mg a day and caffeine is more powerful on adderall. For me its like flipping cocaine. buts it good just be careful


take in small amounts at first



not something big like redline


try this order (wait a day or two till next one or at least some hours)
coke
mountain dew
amp
vault
monster
jolt
redline
cocaine energy

[Alfa]

Redline has yohimbe / yohimbine in it. This is a MAOI and should not be combined with adderall.

[Coconut]

Well there we have it.

Redline energy drink + amphetamine = bad.

[enhancion01]

Originally Posted by Coconut

Well there we have it.

Redline energy drink + amphetamine = bad.

idk how bad it is... swim always buys those energy shots when using methamphetamine. Pretty much doubles his high and gets him flailing hard.

Swim has ponderd if this could be potentially deadly.

So far it just makes his money go further lol.

[ghost94]

Originally Posted by enhancion01

idk how bad it is... swim always buys those energy shots when using methamphetamine. Pretty much doubles his high and gets him flailing hard.

Swim has ponderd if this could be potentially deadly.

So far it just makes his money go further lol.

well like i said swim uses amphetamines (adderall) and drinks energy drinks every so often and it give him a much more in a way high feeling.

amphetamines+caffeine= cocaine type effect

when first using it can be a bad feeling but eventually it got better for swim


it can be dangerous


especially for methamphetamine


be careful

[Coconut]

Originally Posted by enhancion01

idk how bad it is... swim always buys those energy shots when using methamphetamine. Pretty much doubles his high and gets him flailing hard.

Swim has ponderd if this could be potentially deadly.

So far it just makes his money go further lol.

Yes, it could be potentially deadly.

My tree doesn't see the point in getting high if it could very easily kill you.

[SmokingBowls420]

Basically
600 mgs of caffiene = 30mgs of amphetamine

Don't mix the two, redline is more powerful than meth in some ways....Don't do it, drink a mountain dew or coke, it makes the buzz more edgy...it feels less like clean energy and more buzzy, swim likes it from time to time.

[Boca Bitch]

Originally Posted by izzybella

what do you think about swim taking energy drinks - something like redline - with adderall? any experiences?

k... so caffeine and an adderall is a no-no. I was pretty certain that caffeine potentiates it, while also increasing neurotoxicity. But this was just a hunch till I read this article.

http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/277/39/36040

Caffeine is an MAOI!! Do not take MAOIs with stimulants and certain opiates, as it can cause a potentially life-threatening complication!!

[Potter]

While not discounting the above peer reviewed evidence, nobody's had years of experience in combining adderall with large doses of caffiene to no ill effect*. Nobody rarely takes no more then 40mgs of amphetamine salts, but caffiene doses probably push around 500mg+ on an uncountable number of occasions. Nobody is also a life long stimulant user (well 23 out of 28 years), and has on a number of occasions experimented with quantities of caffiene near or above the LD/50, their tolerance is probably a factor to be considered.

Yohimbe is a pretty week MAOI, "energy drinks" rarely contain more then a piddling amount of herbal admixtures, does this one really include a viable quantity of yohimbine?

As for caffiene as an MAOI, how does it rate in potency compared to other MAOIs? Just how much would you need to take for it to be equal to a dose of Syrian Rue? Does it effect the A or B systems?

Sorry, just having a hard time justifying "caffiene=MAOI=bad with amphetamines". Too many years of this combination not having ill effects, makes it hard to see past that.

Be seeing you.
Potter.


*Being obnoxious doesn't count.

[gmeziscool2354]

caffiene is not a mono amine oxidase inhibitor as far as i know. And as to the risks/benefits of combining amphetamine or any other phenethylamine with MAOI's read into some of Shulgins love stories.

many of swims friends say "never mix and MAOI with X" this is good advice, but most of these swimmers don't know the first thing abuot what an MAOI is or what it does

[Politicalchalk]

agreed. the caffeine analogue mentioned in the study was 8-(3-Chlorostyryl)caffeine, or (CSC) as they put it.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Knew there was something off on that study, thanks for pointing that out

[paperstreet]

Originally Posted by Boca Bitch

k... so caffeine and an adderall is a no-no. I was pretty certain that caffeine potentiates it, while also increasing neurotoxicity. But this was just a hunch till I read this article.

-see quoted post-

Caffeine is an MAOI!! Do not take MAOIs with stimulants and certain opiates, as it can cause a potentially life-threatening complication!!

I don't think swiy read the article very closely...

When something "attenuates neurotoxicity" it means that it diminishes/lessens/weakens/prevents the neurotoxic implications.

From the previously linked article:

"Caffeine and more specific antagonists of the adenosine A2A receptor recently have been found to be neuroprotective in the MPTP (1-methyl-4-phenyl-1,2,3,6-tetrahydropyridine) model of Parkinson's disease. Here we show that 8-(3-chlorostyryl)caffeine (CSC), a specific A2A antagonist closely related to caffeine, also attenuates MPTP-induced neurotoxicity."

[top]

The article you posted argues for caffeine's neuroprotective properties...

Reputation Comments on this post:

good job clarifying that.

[TheNewAddiction]

Tobacco contains harmine. Harmine is a MAOI.

Tough call on caffeine. It does help but Swim is starting to think that if adderall has a focusing/make boring activities more fun type of effect.. the caffeine has a chaotic effect.. Meaning.. Swim might sit there, thinking of what to do first.. instead of just doing one thing and moving onto the next.. it may be one step forward, two steps back..

Pills also may be a better choice than a super acidic drink like Coccaine.. Swim can feel the burn with that, literally.

[Politicalchalk]

Swim decided to check the ol' wikipedia on the subject and, while caffeine is a xanthine as well as having complex mojo with adenosine, Swim found nothing on monoamine-oxidase or it's inhibition.

Can we get a reference for the proposition, "Caffine inhibits monoamine oxidase"? Swim's a regular user of caffine, but also with the various psychoactive fireworks he has happening, thinks that an MAOI would...well, do something. He consumes about 200-300mg maybe 5 days a week.