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Old 07-01-2009, 21:20
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Adderall XR WEAK!

So, SWIM, is planning on losing weight and improving her work ethic this year. To help her out, she uses 20mg of adderall XR. The only issue is, when she takes it, she barely feels the effects, she feels slightly less hungry, but no more energetic or focused. Adderall XR is all that's available to her, so evidently it's slightly dissapointing. She has even taken two 20mg, same thing, she's snorted, parachuted and taken them orally, the good old fashioned way and still feels very little. They're the orange tablets that say Adderall, 20mg, so she knows they're legit, but not quite sure what else to do. Any advice would be helpful.
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Old 07-01-2009, 21:47
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

I would try taking a couple antacids(tums), it increases the amount that is absorbed. Also, you could start taking magnesium supplements to help lower your tolerance to it. Avoid acidifying agents like vitamin C, and I think its best to also avoid sugar, but I'm not sure about that. For me, cigarettes increase the euphoric quality of adderall, but if you're not a smoker then I wouldn't start smoking just to make adderall more effective.
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Swim gets those about 2x a month, he takes 5 adderall XR 20mg tablets and kind of chews them up a bit before swallowing and 30min later, it starts.

But swim don't do it to lose weight.

This may be a bit much, try and work with 2 or three at first and work up from there.


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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

Extended release tablets may not work for some people who are naturally insensitive to the effects of amphetamine. Instant release or higher doses may be the way to go, but SWIY must be extremely careful.

Like it has been said before in this thread, acids will decrease the bioavailability of amphetamine. Taking calcium carbonate or another base before dosing will help to neutralise some stomach acid.

Since SWIY is using this to lose weight, she should remember to eat healthily every day even though she may not feel like it. Starving oneself will do far more harm than anything else.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

20mg isn't much for a noticable psychoactive effect. That's almost the lowest effective dose. If you want stimulating effects, double it.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

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They're the orange tablets that say Adderall, 20mg
The tablets are not XR. The capsules are XR. Tablets are instant release
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

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So, SWIM, is planning on losing weight and improving her work ethic this year. To help her out, she uses 20mg of adderall XR. The only issue is, when she takes it, she barely feels the effects, she feels slightly less hungry, but no more energetic or focused. Adderall XR is all that's available to her, so evidently it's slightly dissapointing. She has even taken two 20mg, same thing, she's snorted, parachuted and taken them orally, the good old fashioned way and still feels very little. They're the orange tablets that say Adderall, 20mg, so she knows they're legit, but not quite sure what else to do. Any advice would be helpful.
SWIY is taking orange tablets that say Adderall 20mg? That sounds like Barr instant release Adderall, if they were XR they would be capsules and would not be orange. Adderall 30mg XR are orange capsules.

Also, SWiY cannot snort Adderall XR capsules and have any effect because the beads inside the capsules do not disolve in the nose. Must be digested to break down properly unless SWIY has a pill crusher to grind the tiny beads to powder.

Maybe SWIY should consider grinding/crushing the IR tablets she has and disolving in a little water and draw it up in a needle-less syringe, lubricate, and plug it. Bioavailabilty is much higher and SWIY would get a much better effect.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

Does SWIY have problems with ADD or ADHD and maybe it hasn't been diagnosed yet? Amphetamines have a calming effect instead of a sped up feeling on people that have ADD or ADHD problems. This might not be SWIY but it could be a reason for why the effects haven't seem that noticable.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

seperate the capsule itself and swallow just the little beads
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

Do more. SWIM doesn't feel adderall either until snorting about 3, 4 sometimes 5 of em. 20 mgs too.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

How bout not using it to lose weight, SWIY is just going fuck themselves up
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

most points brought up are all valid except e4 saying that 20mg XR are not orange. 20mg XR capsules ARE orange if you have doubts look up the numerous identifiers around the net. Hippie and chill made great points in stating that SWIY shouldn't use Adderall for weightloss. You should probably make sure your diet is in check first and its hard to keep a healthy diet while taking excessive amounts because you will not want to eat or just forget. and that SWIY could have ADD/ADHD without a previous diagnosis... Generaly people who do suffer from it will have a very high caffeine tolerance
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seperate the capsule itself and swallow just the little beads
Wrong. This is no different than swallowing the capsule whole. The time release is in the beads, not the capsule. Remove the beads from the capsule will have no effect on the experience whatsoever.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

^^Well it won't have much difference in effect but one would probably feel the effects slightly sooner as their body doesn't have to break down the capsule itself in order to get to the beads
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^^Well it won't have much difference in effect but one would probably feel the effects slightly sooner as their body doesn't have to break down the capsule itself in order to get to the beads
Swim believes the capsule takes about five seconds to dissolve. Swim accidentally dropped a capsule in a cup of water once and it was on the verge of tearing open. Swim would imagine that stomach acid would have an even quicker effect.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

SWIM heard that Adderall XR is far less potent if one just swallows the beads as the capsule protects the beads somewhat. SWIM can say without a doubt that when he swallowed the beads, little effect was derived compared to just swallowing the capsule. SWIM simply takes the beads and places them in empty magnesium capsules and then put's salt in the old Adderall XR capsules and puts the salt filled Aderall XR capsules back in the prescription bottles as to not arouse suspicsion from family.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

yea...
The time release mechanism has nothing to do with the capsule shell. The reason Adderall XR is released slowly is because there are two different beads in the capsule. According to Wikipedia, the beads differ such that, "The first dissolves immediately, releasing half of the medication, while the second type dissolves much more slowly releasing the remaining medication four hours later."
Opening the capsule and swallowing the beads will not speed up the absorption of Adderall by any noticeable amount.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

swim's first 5 month run with adderall was with the intention of losing weight. not a good idea, from my personal experience and many others. turns into rapid dependance far too quick. or..is very likely too. swim is dx a.d.d. so taking them as prescribed help day to day life, with an enjoyable side effect, decreased appetite.

i mention my dx because it was guessed you might be have a.d.d., just haven't been diagnosed yet. see a doctor, look online at symptoms of untreated a.d.d. and see if you have a match. help could be on the way.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

SWIM thinks that XR is crap. hes prescribed 20mg but it takes him
atleast 50mg to get the desired amount

its funny swim and hollow hippie do the same thing but swim doesnt
bother filling the pills with salt. maybe he should its a good idea




any SWIYs know how SWIMs wieght relates to adderall tolerance?
hes 6ft 230 whats a propper dose?
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SWIM thinks that XR is crap. hes prescribed 20mg but it takes him
atleast 50mg to get the desired amount
No, SWIY's reasoning is crap, SWIY's tolerance and/or metabolism is probably at fault, also remember everyone reacts differently to every drug. Also, Adderall XR is just 2 Adderall IR doses in one capsule, but otherwise they are exactly the same drug and have the same effects. Try crushing the beads in between two spoons and consume the powder for IR.

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its funny swim and hollow hippie do the same thing but swim doesnt
bother filling the pills with salt. maybe he should its a good idea
Maybe because there is no way that ordinary table salt would increase the effects derived from amphetamine, unless you have reputable sources that state otherwise. So, I believe SWIM smells the placebo effect.

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any SWIYs know how SWIMs wieght relates to adderall tolerance?
hes 6ft 230 whats a propper dose?
SWIM does not know the proper dosage (everyone reacts different), but every drug's dose correlates to body mass (usually a dose is a formula like 5 mg/kg=Total dose.) Work slowly from maybe like 10 or 15 milligrams to like 20 mg or so, find what is best for SWIY.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

Swim said he takes 5 adderall 30,s and he isn,t dissappointed.

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Swim said he takes 5 adderall 30,s and he isn,t dissappointed.
That might be to many for a beginer ,swim been doin them long time

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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

Swim found adderall xr to be a bit weak themselvles.swims wondering if snorting 20mg of adderall xr and taking 74mg of concerta would be a good idea?
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lol who the f*ck is going say "yea, that's a good idea" ?
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Swim found adderall xr to be a bit weak themselvles.swims wondering if snorting 20mg of adderall xr and taking 74mg of concerta would be a good idea?
Well that really depends. It sounds like SWIy has some experience with Adderall XR; how much experience does SWIy have with concerta?

If SWIy has used both and they don't do much, then SWIy should be fine with those dosages. But SWIM would recommend taking 2 or 3 Tums 30 minutes before dosing the Adderall instead. That does a nice job of prolonging and intensifying the effects for SWIM.
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Re: Adderall XR WEAK!

Like swim said,dont snort 20mg eat 50,60,70mg swim takes 5-30's you wont think there weak then ,baby!! and its clean at that.....
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